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    Sh!t Doug, I'm ready to implement the Miller Stack 2! We will keep it top secret and release after you destroy the competition!
    man, when we gonna do the "Zack Attack Stack"!? lol
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    Originally Posted by Rodzilla View Post
    Jacob, I'm just wondering how you came across this. Did you just decide to test certain extracts or did you first read something somewhere that made you curious about it?
    With our growth, we can now spend money and contract with universities and bio tech firms in India...get ready for more cool sh!T!

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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    I do think like that... and I cannot answer something I have no answer for... I guess we will find out in the coming months...





    Of course I agree. Even something as effective as creatine has had non-responders and I know quite a few of them. Thankfully I wasn't one of them and it was what turned my attention even more on this industry.
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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    PM address I will send you 2 bottles..
    Damn lucky man.. I should voice my skepticism . I will be curious as to his reviews and what not from some other respected / critical members. I hope my trade for this stuff pans out!
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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    PM address I will send you 2 bottles..
    Jacob dude .... wht abt me.... still waiting fr ur reply.
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    Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Damn lucky man.. I should voice my skepticism . I will be curious as to his reviews and what not from some other respected / critical members. I hope my trade for this stuff pans out!
    I rather turn the skeptic into a customer and not run from the attacks. I've always had that approach with our products.

    I have a great team of natural bodybuilders(these guys understand when something is special) with the top level ethics and they tell me the truth and PRIME is the Truth!
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    Originally Posted by moneymind View Post
    Jacob dude .... wht abt me.... still waiting fr ur reply.
    I got you man just waiting a coupon code to relay your way.
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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    I got you man just waiting a coupon code to relay your way.
    Thanks man....
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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    PM address I will send you 2 bottles..
    Whoa? Didn't expect that at all.

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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    Whoa? Didn't expect that at all.

    sending pm
    Hey I must say, Jacob does a good job on reaching the people who are skeptics and giving them a chance with the product free of charge.

    It happened with AP I believe and a lot of the naysayers became fans. Looking forward to your run Peter.
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    Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Hey I must say, Jacob does a good job on reaching the people who are skeptics and giving them a chance with the product free of charge.

    It happened with AP I believe and a lot of the naysayers became fans. Looking forward to your run Peter.
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    When will we see the write up? I'm interested in learning more about the ingredients.
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    Originally Posted by bigla2004 View Post
    Damn lucky man.. I should voice my skepticism . I will be curious as to his reviews and what not from some other respected / critical members. I hope my trade for this stuff pans out!
    Don't expect my review to be the one and only as I don't want to pin everyone's belief in this product on my experiences only!! Too much pressure!

    As you say, I will be curious to read as many reviews as possible and hope to eventually hear more on the possible mechanisms of action someday.

    If I do get benefits I will AT LEAST match Jacob's offer by purchasing a couple bottles or more myself as I feel somewhat guilty when companies give me free products, esp. when I was so critical... I will feel kinda silly, but I do feel under the circumstances due to the lack of understanding and science at this time, that such skepticism was warranted to some degree.

    A similar thing happened to me with GlycerGrow from Controlled Labs and I did end up finding that product did provide some interesting effects and pump despite the lack of research to show it could or an understanding of how it works. I'm pretty honest and I don't mind admitting when I am wrong either. Either way, they stood behind their product.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    Don't expect my review to be the one and only as I don't want to pin everyone's belief in this product on my experiences only!! Too much pressure!

    As you say, I will be curious to read as many reviews as possible and hope to eventually hear more on the possible mechanisms of action someday.

    If I do get benefits I will AT LEAST match Jacob's offer by purchasing a couple bottles or more myself as I feel somewhat guilty when companies give me free products, esp. when I was so critical... I will feel kinda silly, but I do feel under the circumstances due to the lack of understanding and science at this time, that such skepticism was warranted to some degree.

    A similar thing happened to me with GlycerGrow from Controlled Labs and I did end up finding that product did provide some interesting effects and pump despite the lack of research to show it could or an understanding of how it works. I'm pretty honest and I don't mind admitting when I am wrong either. Either way, they stood behind their product.
    Really nothing wrong with Pete disagreeing with us....sh!t, we want it because it stimulates conversation and interest.

    I could have a beer with Pete nothing wrong with having his own opinion.

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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    Really nothing wrong with Pete disagreeing with us....sh!t, we want it because it stimulates conversation and interest.

    I could have a beer with Pete nothing wrong with having his own opinion.

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    Originally Posted by USPlabs View Post
    Really nothing wrong with Pete disagreeing with us....sh!t, we want it because it stimulates conversation and interest.

    I could have a beer with Pete nothing wrong with having his own opinion.

    take care
    That's very cool Jacob... My friends don't always have to agree with me and vice versa to talk about things... pretty much I like to be able to voice my opinions, whether right or wrong... we're all searching for answers.

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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    That's very cool Jacob... My friends don't always have to agree with me and vice versa to talk about things... pretty much I like to be able to voice my opinions, whether right or wrong... we're all searching for answers.

    Beer also helps.
    If you log it, I will support and follow. Your opinion is one that can be valued.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    Don't expect my review to be the one and only as I don't want to pin everyone's belief in this product on my experiences only!! Too much pressure!

    As you say, I will be curious to read as many reviews as possible and hope to eventually hear more on the possible mechanisms of action someday.

    If I do get benefits I will AT LEAST match Jacob's offer by purchasing a couple bottles or more myself as I feel somewhat guilty when companies give me free products, esp. when I was so critical... I will feel kinda silly, but I do feel under the circumstances due to the lack of understanding and science at this time, that such skepticism was warranted to some degree.

    A similar thing happened to me with GlycerGrow from Controlled Labs and I did end up finding that product did provide some interesting effects and pump despite the lack of research to show it could or an understanding of how it works. I'm pretty honest and I don't mind admitting when I am wrong either. Either way, they stood behind their product.
    I would not necessarily feel silly if I were you; merely honest. Jacob has supreme confidents in our products, as they are his creations. He knows - that for the majority - the small cost incurred from gifting products to skeptics eventually manifests itself to be increased business. While I cannot assure you physiologically, something I attempt to do most often, I can anecdotally relate my own supreme confidence in this product.
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    Yes Garyboy hype can get annoying but we are very confident in the new PRIME so much so that i will speak with Jacob and get you a bottle to try for yourself with no strings.

    Does this still apply, Mickfootie?

    I was going to get 2 bottles, but just couldn't justify spending 30.00 dollars on shipping. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    Whoa? Didn't expect that at all.

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    Pete, why are you seemingly so willing to try this product now?

    In prior posts, your disdain regarding Prime seemed clear and firm. No MoA is known, no science, etc.
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    Why do USP threads always end up with some sort of drama....goodness gracious. I've not yet seen a situation involving USP that Jacob has somehow not tried to make right or answer the customer's concerns, heh.
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    Why do USP threads always end up with some sort of drama....goodness gracious. I've not yet seen a situation involving USP that Jacob has somehow not tried to make right or answer the customer's concerns, heh.
    In the grand schemes of things I would say that USPLabs has one of the best methods of customer service around. They have had their ups and downs but the recent products have been very innovative!
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    Originally Posted by jdrannin1 View Post
    Pete, why are you willing to try this product now?

    In prior posts, your disdain regarding Prime seemed clear and firm. No MoA is known, no science, etc.
    Because it's free. Pretty much anyone will give a product a shot if they are offered it free of charge. It's human nature.
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    Because it's free. Pretty much anyone will give a product a shot if they are offered it free of charge. It's human nature.
    I suppose.
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    Originally Posted by jdrannin1 View Post
    I suppose.
    Perfect example is the nano vapor tester thread. I'm sure the majority that have applied have bashed MT on here one time or another, but when the opportunity presents itself to test a product of thiers, they do a 180 and say "hey, I've been meaning to try this for a while, would love to test it for you".
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    Originally Posted by Garyboy View Post
    Does this still apply, Mickfootie?

    I was going to get 2 bottles, but just couldn't justify spending 30.00 dollars on shipping. Thanks.
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    Originally Posted by Peter LeDrew View Post
    That's very cool Jacob... My friends don't always have to agree with me and vice versa to talk about things... pretty much I like to be able to voice my opinions, whether right or wrong... we're all searching for answers.

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    Don't worry Pete.. I would never put all my apples in one basket so to speak. I'll be looking at a lot of others logs as well.
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    I tried to order a couple of bottles but NL just didnt get added, even mailed to that CEO e-mail ah well, if the logs proof to be good ill just buy from bb.com for the higher price.
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