Compete as a Natural or not?

[KidDynamite89]

Im currently deciding to compete as a natural or not, but at the minute its swaying of the favour of not, and considering taking my first ever course of sustanon 250 this summer. Roughly a 10 week course taking 4 shots a week (1000mg)
Im fairly new to the sport, with this summer being my only real proper period of conditioned and properly nutritioned training. I am very much looking forward to it, as with my genetics enabling to put muscle on like butter who knows what lies ahead, i was just wondering what all of your opinions on the use of steroids are and if any of you have considering using them?
By using them also i dont mean without the knowledge of what your doing, i mean with the oppertunity of someone who knows what the correct doseages are that will not pose a threat to your health etc?

[Devils]

You've used before I see.

Being natural just because you go off steroids for a few years is a joke IMO.

Either be a lifetime natural or compete in the big leagues.

[Johnny2k7]

Your at a level where its a choice only you can make. Steroids WILL improve your physique dramatically, but theres is a lot of stigma surrounding them. It depends if you can deal with the changes to your lifestyle they will bring. The people you will have to deal with, the financial cost, the secrecy and the effect it would have on your relationships/job if your use was to come out are some factors you should consider. Up to you man.

[KidDynamite89]

I have honestly never used any form of steroid before. The only non commercial supplements i have used would be ephridine and clentuberol to expierement whilst cutting down, naturally im a big kid i always have been, when i was 15 i was weighing around 15 stone, obviously i had fat aswell, but i had also alot of muscle and was way ahead of the game in terms of natural size and strength compared with most kids.

Yeah i want to make the commitment to the cause, i just need to think about whether i want to risk putting some of my relationships in jeperdy. Thanks for your help, its appreciated.

[Skippy_nate]

If you want to try a natural, go for it now while you can, but if you really have the potential just go for pro man

[Torrtrefireto]

The only thing seperating natural and enchanced is the testing. I am not a fan of your cycle though I would look into that a little more. 10 weeks=water weight but little time to build capilary density and teach your body to support all that new muscle

[user67987309011654]

1000mg of test for your first cycle, you won't gain any more from that then 500mg most likely.

[KidDynamite89]

Well with reference to friends who have used the same course and doseages, one gained around 5 stone i think on his ten week course, then 3 weeks after he began using tamoxifan and clomid to stop his gyno, according to him the doseage of 1000mg paid off. I guess it depends on how your body takes to it and your nutrition and conditioning whilst on it to be honest.

[Mr. Manlet]

holy **** a gram a week??!?

[KidDynamite89]

Yeah well the two extremes of doseages of sust is .25 to 2 grams a week

[user67987309011654]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

Yeah well the two extremes of doseages of sust is .25 to 2 grams a week

Do one shot every 3 days or something... Or get some Enth or Cyp

[Mr. Manlet]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

Yeah well the two extremes of doseages of sust is .25 to 2 grams a week

damn..when i hop on my first bicycle its gonna be about 500mg of test e

i got some time tho

how many cycles under ur belt..and fuk this thread is gonna get closed

[KidDynamite89]

I havent touched anything besides Clenbuterol and Ephridine im only 18, im clean as a whislte, doing something like sust below 18 is incredibly stupid in my opinion.

[Mr. Manlet]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

I havent touched anything besides Clenbuterol and Ephridine im only 18, im clean as a whislte, doing something like sust below 18 is incredibly stupid in my opinion.

lol exactly why i asked

[user67987309011654]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

I havent touched anything besides Clenbuterol and Ephridine im only 18, im clean as a whislte, doing something like sust below 18 is incredibly stupid in my opinion.

Just because you have reached 18 does that make it any different? There is very little between it.

That being said if you are natty up until now you do have a pretty good physique, are you adamant on using sus? why not get some test e or test cyp?

[KidDynamite89]

I am adament upon using sust, as it is the one thing that i have fully researeched and like i said friends have used it for their first course. Also i want to compete as a pro one day.

At 18 things change, your no-longer a boy, the decisions you make are your own and you have to live with them.

[Delgadido]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

I am adament upon using sust, as it is the one thing that i have fully researeched and like i said friends have used it for their first course. Also i want to compete as a pro one day.

At 18 things change, your no-longer a boy, the decisions you make are your own and you have to live with them.

you havent even put your foot in the door and you are looking to take steroids already. why dont you actually go into atleast 6 comps and see if thats what you like. you havent even competed have you?

people that take it at a young age and say they wanna go pro and what not piss me off when they havent even worn the posing outfit.

and when it comes to saying you wanna go pro... you are already getting **** ready when you dont know the first thing about it. going pro is more about just shooting **** in you. you havent even started the basic. you are going straight to intermediate when you dont know a damn thing about it.

mattyh went in a couple of comps before he even enhanced. out of all the enhanced young guys i have the most respect for him cause it seems like he was the only one that has competed.

[QQ]

don't see why you posted this in the teen section lol.

and don't do sustanon 250 as your first steroid lol... start off with test.

[adrenergic]

there is a steroid section you know

nvm he's not 21


don't use steroids!

[miketheman90]

definitely stay natural bro, ur looking massive anyway...and you say you've always had good genetics, well see how far those genetics can take you naturally, enter some natural competitions etc.

In my opinion it would be more self-fulfilling if you know you've acheived something without any assistance, plus with steroids theres the risk of future complications or whatever. stay natural and keep up the good work man

[conisag]

Next year i do my first show as natural, natural is 100% natural your body doing what it can on its own with substances that can be found and obtained in nature without having to go to a lab,


if you think you cant get huge natural then your very very wrong.


If have no moral problems with going synthetic then go for it, if like me you have alot of moral dilema's with being unatural and feeling like if you cant do it naturally then it wasnt supposed to happen, then again thats cool.

[echoareone]

Originally Posted by Delgadido

mattyh went in a couple of comps before he even enhanced. out of all the enhanced young guys i have the most respect for him cause it seems like he was the only one that has competed.

ROFL mattyh is juiced? Hahahahahahahahhahahaa

[seanoh]

unless you're gonna compete dont bother. and weigh up your options- are you gonna be the next cutler? doubt it. theres hardly any money in the sport unless you're at the top.

IMO get as big as possible naturally, when you start to use steroids it looks unhuman anyway

[KidDynamite89]

Honestly i appreciate all the critics and that, but to say this, how am i meant to know where i will stand later in life, right now ive lifted weight properly for 3 months and weigh around 17 stone at 18 years old and havnt trained even as hard as i have planned once my exams are finished, nor have i properly slept or eaten correctly, who knows when everything is right how well i will progress?

[rsjrv99]

I honestly think you have a great physique, but I think you should train for another year or so naturally before using any form of steroid. Get your diet and training down and do some more research on them. And you've only been lifting 3 months? That is no where enough time to make the decision to take steroids. Like a person before me said, enter a few competitions, get a feel for it. There's no reason to rush it

[23Mike]

Layne says hi.

[KidDynamite89]

By saying that ive lifted weights properly for 3 months i mean, properly conditioned and constructed programmes, ive lifted weights aimlessly since about 15, with poor technique, little understanding and no knowledge, i hope this straightens that matter out.

[nutsy54]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

By using them also i dont mean without the knowledge of what your doing, i mean with the oppertunity of someone who knows what the correct doseages are that will not pose a threat to your health etc?

At 18 things change, your no-longer a boy, the decisions you make are your own and you have to live with them.

By definition, there is no "safe" or "correct" way for an 18 year old to be using steroids.

This has nothing to do with legality or decision making, it has to do with your body's physiology and inability to safely use these powerful drugs due to the ongoing development that's still going on.

Please read the first few links in this thread, and then take any further discussion to the Steroids Forum. Their minimum age for posting is 21 - which should also be a clue.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3296321

[Delgadido]

i honestly think this guy is full of ****. you cannot reach that physique in 3 months. he claims he has only been working out for 3 months. but he also says he has been working out since he was 15 with bad technique. thing is just because you use bad form or w/e doesnt mean you wont grow or create strength.

reason we have form and lifting technique is to prevent injuries. if i curled by throwing my back it wont stop my strength gain in curls or size increase of my bicep. so technically you been working out for 3+ years

[Muscle_Man]

Originally Posted by KidDynamite89

I havent touched anything besides Clenbuterol and Ephridine im only 18, im clean as a whislte, doing something like sust below 18 is incredibly stupid in my opinion.

how is sust stupid below 18 may one ask?