Which is the main muscle worked? and how much are biceps worked in regular overhand pullups? Is there a significant difference between the two?
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Thread: Chinups=Back or biceps?
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05-20-2008, 08:15 PM #1
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if bicepts fail before
lats[during a chin]
yo are trainning bicepts
and not lats
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05-20-2008, 08:44 PM #7
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05-20-2008, 08:48 PM #8
both are the main muscles worked, biceps really aren't worked as much in pull-ups instead Brachioradialis takes the brunt of elbow flexing as for back some think pull-ups do more(as they are harder, but what about those who are more back dominant than bicep dominant, does that mean they can do more pull-ups than chin-ups?) chin-ups have more distance too.
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05-20-2008, 09:07 PM #11
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If you pull in with your forearms then you will contract your biceps..if you pull in with your elbows guiding then that hits your back. Thats a reaso why a lot of people have awesome arms and ****ty backs because they go way to heavy and their forearms are contracting to the bicep by pulling in and not letting your elbows guide the way to contracting lats
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05-20-2008, 09:33 PM #12
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05-21-2008, 04:34 AM #15
I think a lot of people have weak lats and poor mind-muscle connection with them. You start off heavy (full bw) and do anything it takes to get them all the way up. You feel it pulling in your arms. If you look at Extremist Pullup, you can definitely see it as a lat movement. Even if you start with the lats, it's easy to cheat with the arms as you get tired.
Assisted pullups are good so you can use light weight and focus on the lats, but have the same form as the unassisted ones.
BB rows to the waist is another exercise that allows light weight and concentration on the lats. Unfortunately, it isn't the same form so it doesn't translate that well to pullups.
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05-21-2008, 05:38 AM #16
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Well its called the "cheat form" for the lats..Like leaning back for curls or pushing down using your back on pressdowns to get that last few reps.etc...
Sometimes the weight is to heavy or form is to poor, we pull in WITH our forearms to much and not let our elbows guide us. Its a mind muscle connection type of thing. If you focus on your elbows and draw them back intead of focusing on pulling with your forearms and biceps then the movement should BARELY EVER involve biceps. I know I do biceps the day before my back and it never effects me because I rarely involve my biceps in the workout..unless I want to throw in a cheat rep on the last set, then my form might worsen some!Team Norton
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yeah, the "can't dead" could be a back problem (what I assumed) but if he can do cleans....
Same with equipment. If you can do cleans, you have what you need for deads. You can also front squat the weight you clean. (no windex)oh and gecko that link did not contain answers only the search page - swiftness_02
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