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    trying to convince somebody that working abs everyday is bad

    this is what he posts from a boxing site

    Abs are unique in that they do not react to growth the same way as most of your other muscles. They, like your calves, usually require a large number of repetitions in order to stimulate growth. As such, they are usually conducted daily giving much less time for rest. A set or two of abs on a daily basis will yeild results in proportion to the rest of your development.

    how can i convince sir douchebag he is wrong
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    tell him to get off his gay ass boxing site and research some sh*t
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    Is he training for boxing???
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    Originally Posted by PumpinPaddy View Post
    Is he training for boxing???
    yah, he got that quote from a boxing site, he didn't write it.
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    My friend believes the same thing; hard headed mother ****ers.
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    How can I convince YOU, sir douchebag, that you're wrong?
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    Originally Posted by Chris_1990 View Post
    How can I convince YOU, sir douchebag, that you're wrong?
    a blowjob from your sister, maybe
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    well if hes training for boxing, he probably has different goals
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    Originally Posted by PumpinPaddy View Post
    well if hes training for boxing, he probably has different goals
    but regardless of what your training for, isnt it a bad idea?
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    Abs should recover very quickly, I wouldn't see a problem with working them every day, especially if you're a trained boxer with a sick core.
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    somebody else is telling me diet plays at most 40% of whether your "healthy" or not...

    as for the abs:

    myth 1. Abdominal muscle is different from regular muscle
    Muscle is muscle. Period. Ab muscle is just like the muscle in your quads, biceps and lats. ?The abdominals are different only in location, ? explains Alice Lockridge, MS, an exercise physiologist based in Renton, Wash. ?They are not resting on a bony surface, like the biceps or quads. Instead, they span the stomach and intestines like a bridge over a cavern. Look at any anatomy book. But that doesn?t change basic physiology or the laws of science.? There?s no structural difference, no physiological difference and no difference in how the ab muscle contracts and gets stronger.


    myth 2. You have to train abs at least every other day
    Train them at most every other day so you leave time for recovery, just as with any other muscle group, says Ken Alan, BS, a Los Angeles-based instructor of personal trainers and spokesman for the American Council on Exercise. ?Your abs can get strong and stay strong when you work them twice a week, ? he suggests, but you have to train them hard enough.

    myth 4. High repetitions are required to make gains
    Let?s say you want to work your biceps. Would you do 100 concentration curls with a 2.5-lb weight or 10 with a 25-lb weight? The key to abdominal gains is the same: overload. The reason we think that we have to do so many reps is because we?re not working them hard enough. ?If you find that you have to do 50 to 100 crunches before fatiguing, slow down and work on perfecting your technique, ? says Candice Copeland Brooks, a fitness expert who, with her husband, Douglas Brooks, gives abdominal-technique workshops to fitness instructors. Here are some of her tips:
    Pull your shoulder blades together during crunches so you can?t cheat by pulling your head forward or rounding your upper back.
    Make your abdominals contract before anything moves. First the rib cage moves, then the rest follows.
    Slow down. If you go too fast, you use momentum to perform the movement ? not your muscle.
    Sure, if your aim is abdominal endurance ? to see how many crunches you can do ? then the more you do each time, the more volume you?ll be able to do later on. But why you would want to spend your time on this is a mystery. It doesn?t strengthen the abs very much, and it can fritter away a big chunk of your day.

    myth 5. All you need to do is lots of sit-ups
    Forget full sit-ups. They may be hard, but they primarily strengthen muscles that are already strong, and these are not even abdominal muscles. ?If you come all the way up, you work your hip flexors, which have nothing to do with your six-pack at all, ? Alan says. ?It?s better to do a variety of exercises to attack the six-pack muscle from different angles and to engage other abdominal muscles.?
    That six-pack muscle is the rectus abdominis, today?s glamour bodypart. Although it?s the most prominent muscle, the most important reason to train your abdominal muscles is for back health, and just working the rectus abdominis won?t protect your back as well as doing a variety of exercises that also strengthen the external obliques, internal obliques and the transverse abdominals. So variety is the key.

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    why would u care about him anyways
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    why would u care about him anyways
    i dont, but i do care about making sure everybody else isnt uninformed due to this idiot.
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    Something I've learned about boxing is that boxers, when it comes to anything outside of specifically boxing and conditioning, know very little about strength training.

    The first boxing match I watched was a Shane Mosley fight where the commentators were talking about moving weight classes and how ____ had done it well by adding muscle to his whole body, rather than most boxers who bulked up in the "chest and arms." <--- lol.

    The fact that a boxer moving up weight classes and doing it without slowing down is a big deal/considered unusual in most circles just goes to prove my point. I've already heard the "muscle makes you slow" **** from my boxing coaches, and they already said that "none of our guys touch weights until we get them on something." Our warm-up includes an uncountable number of pushups and ab variations, but only handful of squats. There's a chin-up bar that's occasionally used, in the back corner of the gym that's the farthest away and hardest to get to.

    Tell your buddy this -- go to a boxing gym to learn how to box -- but when they tell you how to workout...don't ****ing listen. Say thanks, nod your head. Then go onto EliteFTS, DanJohn.org, T-Nation, BB.coming, Iron Addicts, and Stronglifts. Tell him specifically to hit up RossBoxing, and the RossBoxing forum.

    The average boxer knows as much about effective strength training as the average plumber knows about carpentry. Pretty much absolutely **** all.
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