Navy SEALS vs. Marine RECON vs. Air Force Pararescue vs. Army Rangers

[lifeinmotion]

Yea, I missed that mission, was on my way to Kabul for another mission.

[kyle.conrad]

Wait, where are you stationed? Are you at KAF?

[lifeinmotion]

yea i am, just got back a few days ago.

[kyle.conrad]

sweet, i just did some com work for yall the other day, well a site survey for AFN.

[TravkinK]

[lifeinmotion]

yea, i heard yall were installing some AFN for us, thanks man.

[litoris]

I agree with lifeinmotion, I heard about that story a couple weeks ago.

Yea, I missed that mission, was on my way to Kabul for another mission.

Wait, where are you stationed? Are you at KAF?

yea i am, just got back a few days ago.

sweet, i just did some com work for yall the other day, well a site survey for AFN.

yea, i heard yall were installing some AFN for us, thanks man.

[hathawayshayne]

I would have gone with the SEALS at first until the Marine Corp started there top elite force know as Marsoc. I would now say the teams within marsoc are equivalent if not better then the SEALS.

[UltimateRescue]

DON'T ever join the navy to be a SEAL, they will not take navy , the navy has no combat type jobs , its funny i know cus its the navy SEALS but they take marines and army , wen you join the navy , u don't train with a gun in you hand like the army and marines

first off the be a "SEAL" u need to be invited to UDT basic underwater demo training ,then u have to be to 10% of you class to get the invite , and u need to be a E4 in rank and den u have to be in a combat type job b4 u go to UDT to go to BUDS

....lol wut?

[Omega6639]

Considering getting a Recon contract (HZ) after getting my bachelors degree. Boot camp to SOI to Recon Indoctrination. Always been an excellent swimmer and have good physical genetics + above average IQ. I'll do my best to make it, hopefully it's not just a pipedream. If not, at least I'll be 0311. Better than failing out of the SEALs and scraping paint off a ship for 4 years.

I heard MARSOC is getting its own MOS now, too

[UltimateRescue]

Navy air rescue swimmers ofcoarse ....only kidding. also everyone's forgetting EOD. anyways they all go through tough training and hey they're on the same side and have different missions, so...does it really matter?

[Wildyouth]

i dident get it from the internet i looked for it just know

i went in to the navy recruiting office and i asked about the seals andd the training and he was like the success rate is 5%

and like one of the task is you have to swim 26 miles strait out you rest for 20 mins then strait back

26 miles??????

thats a first i have heard of that

[Wildyouth]

I would have gone with the SEALS at first until the Marine Corp started there top elite force know as Marsoc. I would now say the teams within marsoc are equivalent if not better then the SEALS.

strong join date to post ratio

[LatvianLifter]

I am training up for to join the Ginyu Force.

[rob24rod]

this is ridiculous... listen civilians! SEALs are all Navy, all day. you may attend training straight out of boot camp. you do not have to be an E-4 to attend BUDS (basic underwater demolition school). upon completion of BUDS the sailor is rewarded the new rating of SO3, making them an E-4. SO stands for special operator. the number designates the members rank. following that training comes SQT (SEAL qualification training). upon completion there the students are awarded the "trident". this is a warfare pin worn above the ribbons and is the proud mark of a SEAL. there is no job anywhere in the military that has a longer training period than the other. no one is ever done learning in the military therefore school never stops. SEALs are never done training. its a constant cycle. and please quit comparing special forces from different branches. they all have different missions making them nothing alike. one particular operator is highly trained in search and rescue such as an Air Force Pararescueman and others trained in areas of recon and demo and countless other tactics such as SEALs. do a little more research... youll get there

P.S. stop all the MARSOC jibber jabber devil dogs... theyre still the red headed step child of the marine corps and have no where near the experience as an operating organization to compare to SEALs. i do love my marines dont get me wrong. im an FMF Corpsman. i walk, talk, and act like a marine a little more than i would like but ive been around them too long i guess. sometimes i forget i joined the navy.

[Fulani]

I'm a munitions technician in the USAF. I worked at a base with PJ's. Those mf have all the toys. They would ride 4 wheelers around the base for fun. They're cool as **** too. When I used to deliver muns to the PaveHawks, I would see um some times jumping on the chopper while still running with snorkling gear and all that! Parashouting around base. You definetly have to be in good shape. It's got to be in your genetics. But if you can make it, you got one of the best jobs in the service.

[cliffordoz]

one trained pitbull...

[jmgast]

Pararescue training is 2 years. Just sayin'

And no one is ever gonna be able to say something would definitively put one group above the other.

This guy must not have been part of an elite unit before. I was a Marine and served with many special ops units throughout the world; I have to give all props to the SEALs and Recon Units. SEALs definately have the most extensive and deadly training regimien. Just becuase you spend 2 years in training does not make you a more effective operator in combat. A good majority of Pararescue school is playing catchup. They need to learn skills basic Marines and operators already have (shoot and move/land nav/survival) plus the paramedic side of training. Look at history, when the toughest military jobs need completion it's Marine units and Seal operators getting the job done. Oh yah, the Mossad is pretty tough too.

It is well known within the military that SEAL training is the toughest in the world, hands down.

[jmgast]

this is ridiculous... listen civilians! SEALs are all Navy, all day. you may attend training straight out of boot camp. you do not have to be an E-4 to attend BUDS (basic underwater demolition school). upon completion of BUDS the sailor is rewarded the new rating of SO3, making them an E-4. SO stands for special operator. the number designates the members rank. following that training comes SQT (SEAL qualification training). upon completion there the students are awarded the "trident". this is a warfare pin worn above the ribbons and is the proud mark of a SEAL. there is no job anywhere in the military that has a longer training period than the other. no one is ever done learning in the military therefore school never stops. SEALs are never done training. its a constant cycle. and please quit comparing special forces from different branches. they all have different missions making them nothing alike. one particular operator is highly trained in search and rescue such as an Air Force Pararescueman and others trained in areas of recon and demo and countless other tactics such as SEALs. do a little more research... youll get there

P.S. stop all the MARSOC jibber jabber devil dogs... theyre still the red headed step child of the marine corps and have no where near the experience as an operating organization to compare to SEALs. i do love my marines dont get me wrong. im an FMF Corpsman. i walk, talk, and act like a marine a little more than i would like but ive been around them too long i guess. sometimes i forget i joined the navy.

Thank you!

Semper Fi, to my corpman here. A lot of Marines move to SEALs to complete the toughest training in the world. Force Recon is tough but do not have the water skills and operations training equal to the SEALs.

Jason USMC

[Brahtactic]

rangers lead the way!

[Lamborg]

Delta Force

[BenGarza]

Well.... I'm goig to have to say that the United States would probably win

Former Army 75th Ranger retired medically.

[Jeremy-Vincent]

you forgot MARSOC op.

[moosedahgoose]

you forgot MARSOC op.

^^ Heading to Selection in a few months. See my Training Log (sig).

[AgRyan]

I'm a munitions technician in the USAF. I worked at a base with PJ's. Those mf have all the toys. They would ride 4 wheelers around the base for fun. They're cool as **** too. When I used to deliver muns to the PaveHawks, I would see um some times jumping on the chopper while still running with snorkling gear and all that! Parashouting around base. You definetly have to be in good shape. It's got to be in young genetics. But if you can make it, you got one of the best jobs in the service.

Seriously, **** PJs. Bunch of pussies who talk the talk but don't walk the walk. srs. I have no doubt it's one of the best jobs in the service though.

[GarthVader]

AF Combat Controllers are looking pretty bad ass these days!

[Vasilyevich]

What the phuk is this chit... Another dumb @$$ thread about nonsense. I'll play..




^^^ Would lay waste to everyone.

[LonelyWriter]

Ok first off, you have to invited to train as a Seal, you can't just sign up and go to training. The Airforce PJ's ( Pararescue) has an over 90% drop out rate, there are only about 500- 1000 of them, which makes them the smallest of the elite force. They are search and rescue experts and more, and their school is 2+ years, so it's not for the cocky ones. They are called by all forces around the world even the the most "elite" of special forces. There's a reason they call the PJ's the Guardian Angels, because anyone who makes it through multiple schools and doesn't give up, deserve the title Pj. I'm training for them now, and they put all special forces to shame. Out of 200 people that go out for the Pj's, only 12- 4 make it through, if that even. The Pj's say "that others may live" they are the ones who go in and pull the Seals out when they can't get out. They are the highest trained force in this country, if you fail the program, you don't get a second chance unless the commander see's fit (which is almost never).

[liftheavy211]

you forgot MARSOC op.

lol propaganda at its finest

[pg2tall]

Well are numbers a factor? Manpower? I know the Recon Marines number about 1000, not sure about navy seals. But I think the Rangers have alot more man power than any other listed...

Seals are about 2500 strong.

Rangers are about 2000 strong.