White Pride vs Black Power experiment I did at the Mall...

[MrHurtMonger]

Me and my Friend did an Experiment I am not a racist I do not support White power so do not associate me.
My friend is Black we both take a Poli Sci Class and decided to see how people would react.
Well I was at one end of the mall near the entrance with my sign and printed papers saying White Pride help Support a White Pride Day.
My Friend was on the other side with his Black Power Sign and he wore a bit of a Militant uniform and had a More aggressive stance while I was more Mellow.

My Experience was a scary one!
I sat quietly talked politely and people rudely told me **** off.
I was berated by many White people saying I was a coward.
Some 40 year old white construction worker told me To "step out side with that Racist ****" he told me he would gladly put me in my place like a real man for talking racist ****. Remember I was non Confrontational and just saying "Please support a White Pride day please sign this petition"
Then Some White fat girl and her black boyfriend came by this Fat White girl took my sign down and stomped on it. It was an unprovked action all I said was "good Day would you guys please sign my petition for White Pride Day?"


The only Race of people who didn't Bother me at all were the Asians not one of them felt the need to insult me or berate me...When I asked a few korean people they stood there gladly heard me out plus all my signatures were from Asians who were not born here lol.

I was only up for 15-20 minutes before I got kicked out! The security came by and told me to move out and they aggressively came at me cussing the **** out of me. They told me it was for my own safety and I should get out as fast as possible.


My Black Friend had an entirely different Experience! no one confronted him he had 60 signatures from all kinds of people latinos, whites, blacks, middle eastern.He was very confrontational by blaming the White Man.

The Fat White Girl with the Black Boyfriend came by to him and told him there was this KKK Skinhead nazi bitch on the other end of the mall and that he should get a group of black power guys and beat the **** out of him!
What a bitch.

Anyway my friend was in the mall for 1 hour that was the time we said we would spend in the mall.
So I broke it down with him he said all the security did was observe him and watch to see if anything happens.
With me the Security kicked me out saying I was confrontational which was a load of bull I was polite and non confrontational never raised my voice once never complained.

Would you consider this a Double Standard, Is this a Form of Reverse Racism?

[goody1]

I know people that did pretty much the same thing for a college class and they ended up with pretty much the same results. The white guy was receiving death threats while the black guy received signatures on his petition.

Sad really

[DaHooligan]

Originally Posted by goody1

I know people that did pretty much the same thing for a college class and they ended up with pretty much the same results. The white guy was receiving death threats while the black guy received signatures on his petition.

Sad really

I agree

The Op made a sensible post for once. Also I remember some guy in college doing the same exact experiment and said the same thing about the Asians not being Rude to the white pride guy and some actually even taking the time to hear them out. From what I noticed Asian people have good values and principles it is all how you grow up they are very conservative. They are probably the few that actually still respect there elders as well.

[AdonisSMU]

Originally Posted by MrHurtMonger

Me and my Friend did an Experiment I am not a racist I do not support White power so do not associate me.
My friend is Black we both take a Poli Sci Class and decided to see how people would react.
Well I was at one end of the mall near the entrance with my sign and printed papers saying White Pride help Support a White Pride Day.
My Friend was on the other side with his Black Power Sign and he wore a bit of a Militant uniform and had a More aggressive stance while I was more Mellow.

My Experience was a scary one!
I sat quietly talked politely and people rudely told me **** off.
I was berated by many White people saying I was a coward.
Some 40 year old white construction worker told me To "step out side with that Racist ****" he told me he would gladly put me in my place like a real man for talking racist ****. Remember I was non Confrontational and just saying "Please support a White Pride day please sign this petition"
Then Some White fat girl and her black boyfriend came by this Fat White girl took my sign down and stomped on it. It was an unprovked action all I said was "good Day would you guys please sign my petition for White Pride Day?"


The only Race of people who didn't Bother me at all were the Asians not one of them felt the need to insult me or berate me...When I asked a few korean people they stood there gladly heard me out plus all my signatures were from Asians who were not born here lol.

I was only up for 15-20 minutes before I got kicked out! The security came by and told me to move out and they aggressively came at me cussing the **** out of me. They told me it was for my own safety and I should get out as fast as possible.


My Black Friend had an entirely different Experience! no one confronted him he had 60 signatures from all kinds of people latinos, whites, blacks, middle eastern.He was very confrontational by blaming the White Man.

The Fat White Girl with the Black Boyfriend came by to him and told him there was this KKK Skinhead nazi bitch on the other end of the mall and that he should get a group of black power guys and beat the **** out of him!
What a bitch.

Anyway my friend was in the mall for 1 hour that was the time we said we would spend in the mall.
So I broke it down with him he said all the security did was observe him and watch to see if anything happens.
With me the Security kicked me out saying I was confrontational which was a load of bull I was polite and non confrontational never raised my voice once never complained.

Would you consider this a Double Standard, Is this a Form of Reverse Racism?

Clearly this is a double standard and is reverse racism. I would've had a few words for both of you.

[Anticrombie315]

I'm not really sure what to think of this. It seems kind of messed up though. I'm very proud to be white. Why shouldn't I be? That doesn't make me a racist though. That's very odd.

[QuicksandATL]

[JUSA]

Originally Posted by AdonisSMU

Clearly this is a double standard and is reverse racism. I would've had a few words for both of you.

You mean, not knowing that both were being all scientific-like, right?

I think the reason people are more accepting of black power vs white power is that black extremists are going to be associated with a group fighting for equality and basic human rights (as they were in the 60s-70s). Meanwhile, white power is going to be thought of as a group trying to oppress or hold down another group (as they were and still are).

Originally Posted by Anticrombie315

I'm not really sure what to think of this. It seems kind of messed up though. I'm very proud to be white. Why shouldn't I be? That doesn't make me a racist though. That's very odd.

Because skin color is meaningless.

I can understand maybe being proud of your heritage, because who knows... maybe your ancestors did something worthwhile. But skin color? Stupid.

[psamty]

Originally Posted by JUSA

You mean, not knowing that both were being all scientific-like, right?

I think the reason people are more accepting of black power vs white power is that black extremists are going to be associated with a group fighting for equality and basic human rights (as they were in the 60s-70s). Meanwhile, white power is going to be thought of as a group trying to oppress or hold down another group (as they were and still are).

Exactly. Even though to the OP these two things may be the same, they have very different associations in people's minds. One stands for civil rights, the other for oppression. These associations are hard to get rid of even if they no longer hold.

In a marketing study, they found that the time to rid a brand of a negative association was ONE GENERATION. The same holds here.

Besides, most White Pride people are still KKK in disguise.

[Anticrombie315]

Originally Posted by JUSA

You mean, not knowing that both were being all scientific-like, right?

I think the reason people are more accepting of black power vs white power is that black extremists are going to be associated with a group fighting for equality and basic human rights (as they were in the 60s-70s). Meanwhile, white power is going to be thought of as a group trying to oppress or hold down another group (as they were and still are).

Because skin color is meaningless.

I can understand maybe being proud of your heritage, because who knows... maybe your ancestors did something worthwhile. But skin color? Stupid.

So isn't it ridiculous for black people to have black pride?

[MrHurtMonger]

It was my Friends Idea lol
He told me to be non Confrontational
He went there dressing in a Black militant uniform and aggressive.
Also I never said White Power or Segregation.
The only people who actually did Differentiate and heard me out were " Asians "
While everyone else Presumed or pre judged me without hearing me out.
My Agenda was let us Appreciate the Achievements of the White man.
I never said anything else racist.
But yet I was the guy who being confrontational and people threatening that they would Beat me up.

[HatesFat]

Originally Posted by Anticrombie315

I'm not really sure what to think of this. It seems kind of messed up though. I'm very proud to be white. Why shouldn't I be? That doesn't make me a racist though. That's very odd.

probably need to rethink that statement a bit... i was the same way, proud of being brown.. but I realized that I had no control over my race and being proud of something I didn't do and had no control over was kinda silly...

I was by the sheerest accident born to brown parents.. that's nothing to be ''proud" of and it's nothing to be ashamed of either.. it is simply a non-issue in how I behave or feel.

aside from providing good comedy fodder of course...

[hugeness]

White people who do not feel pride for their race are pathetic. There is nothing wrong with having pride for your race.

[US_Ranger]

Originally Posted by hugeness

White people who do not feel pride for their race are pathetic. There is nothing wrong with having pride for your race.

Yes there is.

Who cares what your skin color is? If you're going to be proud of something, be proud of your heritage and ethnicity (as in X country your relatives live in) because that's who you are....not your damn skin color.

If you can't separate the two, you have some serious problems.

[hugeness]

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Yes there is.

Who cares what your skin color is? If you're going to be proud of something, be proud of your heritage and ethnicity (as in X country your relatives live in) because that's who you are....not your damn skin color.

If you can't separate the two, you have some serious problems.

White European. Whats wrong with being proud of being a descendant of White Europeans?

[JUSA]

Originally Posted by Anticrombie315

So isn't it ridiculous for black people to have black pride?

Yes, it's utterly stupid.

[JUSA]

Originally Posted by hugeness

White European. Whats wrong with being proud of being a descendant of White Europeans?

I guess it's fine if you have nothing else to be proud about.

[C Project]

Originally Posted by hugeness

White European. Whats wrong with being proud of being a descendant of White Europeans?

There are "brown" and "black" Europeans too.

As said before, Black Power was utilized to united everyone as a whole. White Pride is used to put people down. For some reason people throughout history have thought skin color shows a superiority of some sort.

[hugeness]

Originally Posted by Project_C

There are "brown" and "black" Europeans too.

As said before, Black Power was utilized to united everyone as a whole. White Pride is used to put people down. For some reason people throughout history have thought skin color shows a superiority of some sort.

I am not using it to bring anyone down. That is how it is portrayed in the media in order to silence whites and prop up blacks.

[deapee]

Honestly, you'd probably both have been drug outside and beaten around here. Why would you even attempt such a dangerous thing? You guys should have cleared it with security so someone was watching your backs.

[AKR]

Originally Posted by MrHurtMonger

Me and my Friend did an Experiment I am not a racist I do not support White power so do not associate me.
My friend is Black we both take a Poli Sci Class and decided to see how people would react.
Well I was at one end of the mall near the entrance with my sign and printed papers saying White Pride help Support a White Pride Day.
My Friend was on the other side with his Black Power Sign and he wore a bit of a Militant uniform and had a More aggressive stance while I was more Mellow.

My Experience was a scary one!
I sat quietly talked politely and people rudely told me **** off.
I was berated by many White people saying I was a coward.
Some 40 year old white construction worker told me To "step out side with that Racist ****" he told me he would gladly put me in my place like a real man for talking racist ****. Remember I was non Confrontational and just saying "Please support a White Pride day please sign this petition"
Then Some White fat girl and her black boyfriend came by this Fat White girl took my sign down and stomped on it. It was an unprovked action all I said was "good Day would you guys please sign my petition for White Pride Day?"


The only Race of people who didn't Bother me at all were the Asians not one of them felt the need to insult me or berate me...When I asked a few korean people they stood there gladly heard me out plus all my signatures were from Asians who were not born here lol.

I was only up for 15-20 minutes before I got kicked out! The security came by and told me to move out and they aggressively came at me cussing the **** out of me. They told me it was for my own safety and I should get out as fast as possible.


My Black Friend had an entirely different Experience! no one confronted him he had 60 signatures from all kinds of people latinos, whites, blacks, middle eastern.He was very confrontational by blaming the White Man.

The Fat White Girl with the Black Boyfriend came by to him and told him there was this KKK Skinhead nazi bitch on the other end of the mall and that he should get a group of black power guys and beat the **** out of him!
What a bitch.

Anyway my friend was in the mall for 1 hour that was the time we said we would spend in the mall.
So I broke it down with him he said all the security did was observe him and watch to see if anything happens.
With me the Security kicked me out saying I was confrontational which was a load of bull I was polite and non confrontational never raised my voice once never complained.

Would you consider this a Double Standard, Is this a Form of Reverse Racism?

Yes, it's a double standard, and no, it's not reverse racism. There is no such thing. It's not like racism was biologically meant to be towards blacks, or something. It would be interesting to do this with video cameras. I thought it was pretty f*cked up that the chick who attacked your sign actually went over and encouraged the black "racist" to attack you.

Originally Posted by hugeness

White people who do not feel pride for their race are pathetic. There is nothing wrong with having pride for your race.

But anyone else who doesn't feel pride for their race is not? Only white people should have pride?

What's pathetic is thinking you're special because of your f*cking genetic background, and that others are inferior because of theirs.

[The_Big_E]

Originally Posted by AdonisSMU

Clearly this is a double standard and is reverse racism. I would've had a few words for both of you.

WTF is reverse racism? If you are racist youo are racist... there is no reverse racism!

Originally Posted by JUSA

You mean, not knowing that both were being all scientific-like, right?

I think the reason people are more accepting of black power vs white power is that black extremists are going to be associated with a group fighting for equality and basic human rights (as they were in the 60s-70s). Meanwhile, white power is going to be thought of as a group trying to oppress or hold down another group (as they were and still are).

Because skin color is meaningless.

I can understand maybe being proud of your heritage, because who knows... maybe your ancestors did something worthwhile. But skin color? Stupid.

Pretty much how I see it.

Originally Posted by Anticrombie315

So isn't it ridiculous for black people to have black pride?

Well... yes. Skin color can cover MANY countries, religions, creeds, idealologies... it's not as generic as that. This is an area where over-simplification leads to more complications.

Originally Posted by US_Ranger

Yes there is.

Who cares what your skin color is? If you're going to be proud of something, be proud of your heritage and ethnicity (as in X country your relatives live in) because that's who you are....not your damn skin color.

If you can't separate the two, you have some serious problems.

Exactly... I mean we have come WAY beyond a lot of these issues. The problem with this is... as with all things... extremists. KKK and NAACP, to name just one from each side... represent the extremist whack jobs.

I'd like to think most of us, today, lie in the middle and can set skin color aside and see people as people not as pigmentation!

[C Project]

Originally Posted by hugeness

I am not using it to bring anyone down. That is how it is portrayed in the media in order to silence whites and prop up blacks.

But due to history your pride will always be seen as hate. And the fact that media, teachers, and damn near everyone gets away with "blacks" and "whites". We are all one race, human. Unfortunately everyone who preached that phrase has been killed.

[hugeness]

Originally Posted by AKR

Yes, it's a double standard, and no, it's not reverse racism. There is no such thing. It's not like racism was biologically meant to be towards blacks, or something. It would be interesting to do this with video cameras. I thought it was pretty f*cked up that the chick who attacked your sign actually went over and encouraged the black "racist" to attack you.




But anyone else who doesn't feel pride for their race is not? Only white people should have pride?

What's pathetic is thinking you're special because of your f*cking genetic background, and that others are inferior because of theirs.

I never said that nobody else should not have pride for their race. Now you are making up words. Blacks should have all kinds of pride. Everyone should. I am not a supremacist.

[hugeness]

Originally Posted by Project_C

But due to history your pride will always be seen as hate. And the fact that media, teachers, and damn near everyone gets away with "blacks" and "whites". We are all one race, human. Unfortunately everyone who preached that phrase has been killed.

Which is sad because that is not what it is about for me but I don't worry and don't care what people think about my beliefs. I am not going to hold myself responsible for something that someone did many years ago.

[Spetsnazos]

Originally Posted by MrHurtMonger

Me and my Friend did an Experiment I am not a racist I do not support White power so do not associate me.
My friend is Black we both take a Poli Sci Class and decided to see how people would react.
Well I was at one end of the mall near the entrance with my sign and printed papers saying White Pride help Support a White Pride Day.
My Friend was on the other side with his Black Power Sign and he wore a bit of a Militant uniform and had a More aggressive stance while I was more Mellow.

My Experience was a scary one!
I sat quietly talked politely and people rudely told me **** off.
I was berated by many White people saying I was a coward.
Some 40 year old white construction worker told me To "step out side with that Racist ****" he told me he would gladly put me in my place like a real man for talking racist ****. Remember I was non Confrontational and just saying "Please support a White Pride day please sign this petition"
Then Some White fat girl and her black boyfriend came by this Fat White girl took my sign down and stomped on it. It was an unprovked action all I said was "good Day would you guys please sign my petition for White Pride Day?"


The only Race of people who didn't Bother me at all were the Asians not one of them felt the need to insult me or berate me...When I asked a few korean people they stood there gladly heard me out plus all my signatures were from Asians who were not born here lol.

I was only up for 15-20 minutes before I got kicked out! The security came by and told me to move out and they aggressively came at me cussing the **** out of me. They told me it was for my own safety and I should get out as fast as possible.


My Black Friend had an entirely different Experience! no one confronted him he had 60 signatures from all kinds of people latinos, whites, blacks, middle eastern.He was very confrontational by blaming the White Man.

The Fat White Girl with the Black Boyfriend came by to him and told him there was this KKK Skinhead nazi bitch on the other end of the mall and that he should get a group of black power guys and beat the **** out of him!
What a bitch.

Anyway my friend was in the mall for 1 hour that was the time we said we would spend in the mall.
So I broke it down with him he said all the security did was observe him and watch to see if anything happens.
With me the Security kicked me out saying I was confrontational which was a load of bull I was polite and non confrontational never raised my voice once never complained.

Would you consider this a Double Standard, Is this a Form of Reverse Racism?

lol dude i could have told you it was going to happen b4 you went out there

its cool for black ppl to be racist and white ppl arent even allowed to have pride in themselves

[pantera02018]

i think thats kinda expected

historically, white power movements have been about white supremacy etc rather than celebration of white culture, for the most part

black power movements on the other hand, for the most part have been about black equality rather than supremacy.

knowing this, of course most people will be biased against the white power guy

[Violator009]

lmao, Op are you soo surprised you got such a response? why do you think that is

[Spetsnazos]

Originally Posted by AdonisSMU

Clearly this is a double standard and is reverse racism. I would've had a few words for both of you.

the point here is that the majority of the ppl are racist to white ppl

[JabCross]

Originally Posted by hugeness

White people who do not feel pride for their race are pathetic. There is nothing wrong with having pride for your race.

That symbol is a perfect example of what people are talking about in this thread. White power movements have a history of hurting and hating other people.

That symbol is from **********.org and, having posted there before, I know that the majority of the people on **********.org want to either

a) force me to live in another country because of my race.
or
b) kill me because of my race.

Their reasoning is that I'm a 'half-breed' from 'race-mixers'. They would also have both of my parents, one of them white, sterilized. Many of them also wanted my parents to be executed.

Whereas black power movements wouldn't want to harm me at all; they would merely seek to make sure that the laws ensured that our races would be of equal status. They wouldn't want to force me to move out of the country, execute me, nor would they want to execute my parents.

The people in the mall assumed, with good reason based on history and most current white power movements, that this white power movement was just another hate movement and not a unity/ peace movement.

[BigThinker]

Any argument about race is inherently flawed. If you choose to associate yourself a certain way, that's fine, however, be aware that YOU are the one declaring that it's ok for people to place you into whatever category you've chosen.

The whole idea of racial division is just utterly ridiculous to me. How can anyone on this earth be judged based on a physical characteristic that is completely out of their control? It's simply a non-issue.

The people who owned slaves are the ones responsible for their actions, not their descendants. The people who were slaves - they are the ones who deserve recompense, not their descendants.

Everyone has the same chance to make their way in the world - it doesn't matter what background you come from, where you live, who your parents are, what family you're in - all that matters is what you do with the time you've been given on this earth. If you choose to run around proclaiming why things are so unfair to you, all that you will have accomplished is being a whiny loudmouth.

Sure, there are lots of people around who are bigoted and hateful, but you know what - you don't have to deal with them at all. In fact, these days it's very easy to make life miserable for people who behave in such a deplorable way.