I was gonna stack lean xtreme and hydroxycut HC for my cutting stack. Im pretty tollerant to stimulants and was wondering if i could find a prduct with ephedra still to replace the Hydroxycut
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05-13-2008, 06:02 AM #2
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Are you located in the US? If so, no you can't find ephedrine in fat burners. However, you can just order some from Canada (or buy bronkaid/primatene) and just add it to your favorite fat burner.
However, I wouldn't really recommend stacking a bunch of fat burners and ephedrine. There is a reason why people died in ephedrine related cases (ephedrine not being the sole reason, but a large contributing factor).
If I were you, just stick with EC and dose it right.http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=170889621&posted=1#post170889621
Conclusion: EAT THE WHOLE DAMN EGG!
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05-13-2008, 07:08 AM #6
E + Basic Cuts is alright (please show me how this can be unsafe)
E + AMP has been done with great results (PA has stated that he does it)
Instead of making blanket statements I would encourage people to reserch ingrediant profiles and possible interactions, then proceed.
I don't believe that you should go mixing E with anything but if the burner is around 200 mg caffine per serving and yohimbine-free, I don't see a problemBuckeyes / Indians / Cavs / Browns
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I'm currently running E with Lean Xtreme and it's working well for me. I don't think I would run E with another stim product though...That may be dangerous.
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05-13-2008, 09:47 AM #18
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Check out the EC thread, there's some websites I posted in there. Also, sndonline (I believe that's the company) offers Ephedrine HCL. The best thing to do probably is just go to www.google.ca and search for who will ship to the US and has the best price. I went to livepure.com, but they don't ship to the US anymore.
As for being in Iraq, I have no idea how the customs work over there. I was in Bahrain for a couple months and I don't believe customs were a problem there... Might as well just give it a whirl.
To answer the stacking question, just give the EC stack a whirl at first. No need to go all crazy if you're cutting fine with the basics .http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=170889621&posted=1#post170889621
Conclusion: EAT THE WHOLE DAMN EGG!
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05-13-2008, 09:51 AM #19
I appreciate the link, ill go do some research on those websights but i already have the lean X in the mail so ill prob run it regardless, since im on time constraints i might just stack it with hydroxycut hc for this go round because its easily accessible over here but for the next one ill definately research the info you gave.
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Here's a few:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ht/lipodrene.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ht/stimerexes.html
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/armor/ephedra100.html
It's usually the less-established companies, from what I've seen, that claim to have it. Lipodrene used to have real Ephedra in it. Not sure about now. I forget what part of the plant is the effective part, but it's either the stem or leaves. I could always be wrong because I use Ephedrine and am not as familiar with Ephedra.
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05-13-2008, 11:21 AM #26
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Wow, thanks for the links. Now time to figure out how they were allowed to put ephedra in there. I'm pretty sure it's the stem that's the effective part, but from what I read from the FDA they didn't allow ephedra at all in supplements, I'll have to go check again.
Ephedrine is the alkaloid that actually aids in the fat loss. There are many types of ephedra and I believe that it's only the E. sinica (sp?) that actually contains ehphedrine alkaloid. So that makes sense why Ephedra 100 can sell (since it is 100% ineffective).
As for Lipodrene/Stimerex, I believe they can sell it since it's "ephedra extract" and it's from the leaves so it has no akaloid. Even if it did contain the alkaloid, from what I understand only about 1%-3% of ephedra is the alkaloid and around half of that is ephedrine(other half is pseudoephedrine). So even if it was actual ephedra, there would only be ~.25mg of ephedrine per servinghttp://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=170889621&posted=1#post170889621
Conclusion: EAT THE WHOLE DAMN EGG!
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