starting my bulk to 275 today

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:24 PM

Alright i'm starting my bulk to 275 today give me some good clean food sources please..

I'm going to a 40/40/20 of protein/carbs/fats at around 3000 calories so 300g protein, 300g carbs,67g fats

Skippy_nate · 05-10-2008, 12:24 PM

Your already huge! you will turn into the titanic D=

joush · 05-10-2008, 12:26 PM

Good luck man

a-blok · 05-10-2008, 12:26 PM

will 3000 be sufficient enough? anyways if it goes well u will be huge so good luck

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:27 PM

I want to be a mass monster and get to 275 @ 20% the highest and then maybe go to 300 and then cut. I'm currently 205 @15

kneedamage · 05-10-2008, 12:28 PM

Eggs
Milk
Chicken
Lean Ground Beef
Steaks
Eggs
Various Fish
Pasta

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PumpinPaddy · 05-10-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skippy_nate

Your already huge! you will turn into the titanic D=

x2, what bf you at now??

Here are the staples in my bulking diet atm

Carbs:
ww bread, oats, potatoes

Protein:
Milk, red meat, chicken ,eggs

Fats:
PB, Nuts , olive oil

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:29 PM

well when i bulked last time from 185 to 220 I bulked way too high in cals so this time i'm just starting it low and going to add/subtract as i go.

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:31 PM

the only thing i'm worried about is with eating ground beef/steaks is the fat content is fairly high and i'd end up expending that 67g before i even get to like my 3rd meal.

kneedamage · 05-10-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

the only thing i'm worried about is with eating ground beef/steaks is the fat content is fairly high and i'd end up expending that 67g before i even get to like my 3rd meal.

I suppose.. Id never stop eating it, beef is a staple, and I eat it all the time.

I dont think higher fat will affect you, so long as you watch your calories, and not let the fat get overly excessive.

And if you notice fat gain, you could always do alittle cardio. *shrug*

DaveGee · 05-10-2008, 12:35 PM

jesus dude youll be a bear good luck

-iLift- · 05-10-2008, 12:37 PM

Why 300g of protein? That's a ****load. You're going to spend a lot of time in the crapper, lol.

And 3k cals? I"m bulking on 3.4k and I'm around 60 lbs. less than you (endomorph).

favori12 · 05-10-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by amirunit

will 3000 be sufficient enough? anyways if it goes well u will be huge so good luck

It might be just starting out. 2200-2300 did it for me my first couple of week, I'm up to 3200 now.

amc11890 · 05-10-2008, 12:39 PM

gonna need to up the kcals but good luck man, have you set a timeframe for yourself?

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:42 PM

Yea it is just starting out my bulk. I want to keep it low because 275 is 70 pounds away and i wanna keep the fat gain absolutely minimal. I will add more if i need to.

kneedamage i think your right, viperg keeps saying not to worry about ratios, but just the calories however i'd prefer the carbs instead of fats so I want to keep the fats down in order to get the carbs in.

and 300g of protein, hmm, maybe because im 205 right now? so thats like 1.5g/pound of bodyweight? spread across 7-8 meals is 38-42g protein per meal, definately not enough to be wasted.

Latzilla · 05-10-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

the only thing i'm worried about is with eating ground beef/steaks is the fat content is fairly high and i'd end up expending that 67g before i even get to like my 3rd meal.

eat chicken instead then

HudsonHicks · 05-10-2008, 12:44 PM

3000 cals? Doesnt sound enough for someone who's 210lbs and wants to bulk.

Closer to 4000 cals clean would be more appropriate, using the 'standard' 15 cals per pound plus 500 excess, you get 3650 cals.

Start with 3000 and see how your gains are, increase if necessary.

10TonBrick · 05-10-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ste1989

eat chicken instead then

or fish

or egg whites

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:45 PM

yes by july 2009. No reason in particular, just I wanna be 275 graduating lol.

It's like 59 weeks away so I'm hoping I can do atleast 1 pound a week.

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ste1989

eat chicken instead then

yea thats true i just hate chicken though its such a bland taste IMO. but wth i'll try it.

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Originally Posted by RoidRage300

or fish

or egg whites

yea i have lots of orange roughy, just the calories are really low in respect to the protein content, so if i eat like 4 filets to get 320calories or so I'd also be eating like 64g protein.

Would you suggest Muscle Juice?

10TonBrick · 05-10-2008, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

yea thats true i just hate chicken though its such a bland taste IMO. but wth i'll try it.

yea i have lots of orange roughy, just the calories are really low in respect to the protein content, so if i eat like 4 filets to get 320calories or so I'd also be eating like 64g protein.

Would you suggest Muscle Juice?

the calories are low becuase its almost pure protein, which is what your complaining about lol.....i dont get it.

no i wouldnt, not for a 3000cal bulk...

MarkVI · 05-10-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

yea thats true i just hate chicken though its such a bland taste IMO. but wth i'll try it.

yea i have lots of orange roughy, just the calories are really low in respect to the protein content, so if i eat like 4 filets to get 320calories or so I'd also be eating like 64g protein.

Would you suggest Muscle Juice?

I'd suggest reading some of the 70's pros diets --- TONS of red meat. It's really important imo. I see the leanest and cleanest gains when my protein source is 85%+ red meat. I have perfect blood work as well.

If I were you I'd get all myfat in beef if I was really watching my fat intake.

and no muscle juice.

Baba_ghanoush · 05-10-2008, 01:00 PM

gl bro

~snake0 · 05-10-2008, 01:06 PM

i got cash says u get to 250 and start cuttting cuz your disappointed w/ how much fat you've gained. JMO , good luck tho.

BaFtub · 05-10-2008, 01:09 PM

Gluck dude.

Staples.. You know the drill pretty much.. Chicken, Steak, Eggs, Milk, Tuna fish, Oatmeal, Yams, WW bread, WW pasta, Olive oil, Peanut butter, Peanuts/Almonds..

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ~snake0

i got cash says u get to 250 and start cuttting cuz your disappointed w/ how much fat you've gained. JMO , good luck tho.

thats why i want to keep it as lean as possible.

and RR i sea what you're saying. would you say it'd be inefficient to eat copious amounts of protein and allow my body to convert it to glucose instead of eating carbs?

kneedamage · 05-10-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

thats why i want to keep it as lean as possible.

and RR i sea what you're saying. would you say it'd be inefficient to eat copious amounts of protein and allow my body to convert it to glucose instead of eating carbs?

I dont feel the same without eating a lot of carbs ATLEAST pre-workout..
I like carbs, I get energy throughout the day, feel kinda blah without them.

MillerTime07 · 05-10-2008, 01:24 PM

lol you cant gain that much in one year, unless you are planning on steroids. why dont you get your idol Bladen to help you?

MattEagan · 05-10-2008, 01:24 PM

well what about doing a low carbed based bulking diet? such as 40/10/50? thats 300g protein/75g carbs (use about 50g for PWO) and 166g fats?

10TonBrick · 05-10-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MattEagan

thats why i want to keep it as lean as possible.

and RR i sea what you're saying. would you say it'd be inefficient to eat copious amounts of protein and allow my body to convert it to glucose instead of eating carbs?

?? it depends on your diet as a whole bro