people who bulk, why not train like powerlifter?

[kier15]

there all huge, jus thinking if your bulking why do you train like a powerlifter and do cardio at the same time, and you'll put size on and be pretty lean. just a thought i dont no if it would work

[~snake0]

because im a bodybuilder. not a powerlifter.

[Cser]

You'll most likely get bigger doing a bodybuilding routine actually.

[kier15]

You'll most likely get bigger doing a bodybuilding routine actually.

o ryt, it was jsut a thought, because there all big aren't they

[user5145]

Why don't most pros do this kind of training? Why don't you?!?! Because every form of training has been taught to someone, passed down from the magazines for decades with no thought out rhyme or reasons. Every form of modern day training stems from what the guys in the 60's and Arnold was doing. Finally Yates and some others got people thinking about what truly is working when it comes to training. If you think about it-it's ridiculous some of these recommended routines in the magazines. Most training comes from peoples egos. People are so driven and desperate to get big that they believe they MUST do this and MUST do that every workout. Thirty sets here, with multiple exercises to hit every angle there. You know what that does? It dramatically cuts into your recovery ability (never mind amino acid pools and glycogen stores) so you cannot train that body part again in a couple days time. That defeats the purpose of rapid accumulation of muscle mass. I'll state this as a matter of fact because I believe it's true. I believe if you, the person reading this, trained the way I am recommending, you will be 20-40lbs of muscle larger in 3 years than if you kept training the way you are presently training. If that offends you or seems ballsy to state-SO BE IT!!! I've done enough studying and real life experimentation on aspiring bodybuilders to state that.

I go back to the beggining of cycles for pennies on this---The absolute strongest you can make yourself in all exercises, coupled with food intake to eat your way up to the new musculature will allow you to hold the most muscle mass on your body that your genetics predetermine. You want to worry bout something? Worry about that damn logbook. Worry about staying uninjured in your quest. Worry about not missing any meals. Worry about somehow someway making yourself the strongest bodybuilder you can become. Im not talking singles here. Im talking 9-15 reps rest paused. A brute. A behemoth. A human forklift. I guess i had to use this post to vent because TPC saw me pissed off in the warehouse today after answering emails such as "Dante should I try to isolate the upper portion of the pec muscle and hold the peak contraction and flex hard at the top of every rep for about 5 seconds?" If you have been lifting many years with no muscle mass to show the last thing you need to worry about is peak contraction-GET THE DAMN WEIGHT UP AND BEAT THE LOGBOOK WITH BIG WEIGHT JUMPS and then Ill and you will be happy

Good reads about routines

[Diana Meeque]

do you mean eat like a powerlifter?

lol

[Stork]

Bodybuilders are bigger than powerlifters, for the most part.

[i_am_stig]

Bodybuilders are bigger than powerlifters, for the most part.

They didn't start their training like a bodybuilder though.

The best thing to do is use strength based routines like ripptoes or 5x5 and when you are more advanced train like the pro's.

[Kiknskreem]

In the earlier stages of training bodybuilders and strength athletes should not be doing too much different.

That being said, powerlifter's train to maximize their 1RM and emulating them exactly will lead to sub-optimal size gains

[Dynamiik]

there all huge, jus thinking if your bulking why do you train like a powerlifter and do cardio at the same time, and you'll put size on and be pretty lean. just a thought i dont no if it would work

Nah i'd rather train for mass instead of strength..for now.

[Dynamiik]

o ryt, it was jsut a thought, because there all big aren't they

Well yea because they practically eat whatever they see.

[mr.genetics]

If you have ever taken notice, powerlifters are mostly overweight. This is not the case for all, but bulking as a powerlifter and bulking as a bodybuilder should be two entirely different diet plans.

[Kiknskreem]

Well yea because they practically eat whatever they see.

Strong generalization. Most powerlifters are not overweight.

You realize powerlifting is a weight class sport?

[Dynamiik]

Strong generalization.

You realize powerlifting is a weight class sport?

Well duh.
Its called sarcasm.

[Kiknskreem]

Well duh.
Its called sarcasm.

Oh, silly me. How could I not have known you were sarcastic based on your written message. I should surely have been able to pick up on the vocal inflections that are indicative of sarcasm!

I'm such a fool, tee hee.

[Mini Arnold]

Strong generalization. Most powerlifters are not overweight.

You realize powerlifting is a weight class sport?

last time i check body building is a weight class sport.

[Kiknskreem]

last time i check body building is a weight class sport.

Did anyone imply bodybuilders 'eat whatever they see'?

Strong dumbass.

[user5145]

In the earlier stages of training bodybuilders and strength athletes should not be doing too much different.

That being said, powerlifter's train to maximize their 1RM and emulating them exactly will lead to sub-optimal size gains

Training like a powerlifter definitely does not lead to sub-optimal gains. ESPECIALLY in your first years of training. Even beyond your beginning years. Look at Dave Gulledge. He doesn't look like he had sub-optimal size gains too me. He is a ripped beast.

[Kiknskreem]

Training like a powerlifter definitely does not lead to sub-optimal gains. ESPECIALLY in your first years of training. Even beyond your beginning years. Look at Dave Gulledge. He doesn't look like he had sub-optimal size gains too me. He is a ripped beast.

Re-read my post and try to let it sink in.

In the earlier stages of training bodybuilders and strength athletes should not be doing too much different.

That being said, powerlifter's train to maximize their 1RM and emulating them exactly will lead to sub-optimal size gains

[user5145]

Re-read my post and try to let it sink in.

I read your post. You said that training will be similar in beginning years. You also stated, if not implied that training like a powerlifter in your more advanced years of experience will result in sub-optimal size. So to that, I say look at Dave Gulledge.

[Diana Meeque]

I read your post. You said that training will be similar in beginning years. You also stated, if not implied that training like a powerlifter in your more advanced years of experience will result in sub-optimal size. So to that, I say look at Dave Gulledge.

do you know Gulledge's routine? just because he is a powerlifter doesn't mean that he doesn't train for size also

[Kiknskreem]

I read your post. You said that training will be similar in beginning years. You also stated, if not implied that training like a powerlifter in your more advanced years of experience will result in sub-optimal size. So to that, I say look at Dave Gulledge.

Nobody is saying powerlifters don't get big and muscular, but training like a competing PL whose main focus is to put up the biggest squat, bench, and deadlift when you are primarily after size gains is ****ing stupid.

Ok?

Take it from a powerlifter.

[Stork]

They didn't start their training like a bodybuilder though.

The best thing to do is use strength based routines like ripptoes or 5x5 and when you are more advanced train like the pro's.

Not all of them started as powerlifters.
Franco Columbo did for one, Schwarzenegger endorsed powerlifting for bodybuilders but it's not necessary.

[Govithoy]

Nobody is saying powerlifters don't get big and muscular, but training like a competing PL whose main focus is to put up the biggest squat, bench, and deadlift when you are primarily after size gains is ****ing stupid.

Ok?

Take it from a powerlifter.

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That said, PLers still get pretty huge and the lower weightclass guys look better than typical BBers of the same weight, in my opinion. The "thicker" look of more developed obliques and posterior chain is better than the super exaggerated V-taper/X-figure.

[Philation]

Most do actually, lol

[BillyBlackwell]

This thread could have made sense, but you just put it out there wrong. Most powerlifters are horrendously fat, have small biceps and just do not have a bodybuilding physique. Although, the idea of training heavy is something more people should utilize. For me, it's the best way to increase strength and add mass.