Do the pectoral muscles have seperate upper and inner bands of muscles? Or, is it just one sets of bands?
If you were to look on a muscle chart, do you think they can be isolated with specific training?
http://virtualastronaut.tietronix.co...s/pectoral.gif
Or, do you think the muscles are shape the way the are (note: the different shapes of IFBB pro's chests)--and you just have to make the overall development the best it can be?
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05-10-2008, 01:45 PM #91
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05-10-2008, 01:47 PM #92
I'm anxiously awaiting your nutrition tips Skip. Hopefully, I will see them up here soon.
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05-10-2008, 02:27 PM #93
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05-10-2008, 02:34 PM #94
Hey Skip.
Nice to see you here. I know you are the spokesperson for AST and all, so I have to wonder if you are biase in promoting their agenda.
Nonetheless, concerning Max-OT style training: Years ago, I used to train this way, that is, low volume, low rep style. And to be honest, I made the best strength gains, and size as well. BUT the problem with this kind of training is that it wreaks havok on the joints! Eventually I had to stop this kind of training because of the damage it did on my joints, especially rotator cuffs and elbows.
My question is, how long do you think you can continue to only train like this before your joints simply cannot handle it? Have you not had any trouble with your joints, or are you truly a freak of nature?
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05-10-2008, 02:38 PM #95
1. Many Bodybuilders Do Not Put A High Enough Priority On Good Eating Habits
You'll witness this problem when bodybuilders put almost all of their focus and effort into the way they train in the gym and very little on the way they eat.
Here's the challenge:
"I don't know why I'm not growing. I train harder than everyone else in my gym. No one works harder than me. Ask anyone! It's frustrating to see people who don't train nearly as hard as I do build more muscular and leaner bodies than mine!"
Do you see people who train like animals in the gym but their physiques simply don't reflect their efforts the way they should?
Solution
When it comes to weight training, they have learned and applied all of the most effective training programs, theories in exercise execution, and repetition range. They even know what the best exercise equipment is and why.
But when it comes to nutrition, they openly admit that they don't know as much as they should. They'll honestly reveal that they don?t even follow through with what they do know. For whatever reasons, they don?t mind being deficient in this critical component of the physique-enhancing process. Is it because they assume they can make up for poor eating habits with superhuman training efforts in the gym? If so, that's an incorrect assumption.
If you want to produce high-quality muscle and maintain lower body fat levels from the time and effort you invest in training, you must feed yourself properly. Your nutritional habits--not how you train in the gym--have the greatest impact on the development of your physique. Many experts feel the way you eat accounts for as much as an astonishing 80 percent of the way you look. From my experiences, this figure is surprising accurate. If you want an impressive muscular body, you are going to have to pay close attention to what you are eating.
In fact, if I was faced with the dilemma of choosing between training or eating properly as my only vehicle to look and feel my very best, I would choose to eat properly. Sound nutrition is that important to your bodybuilding efforts. A heavy emphasis needs to be placed on studying winning nutritional strategies and executing those strategies on a consistent basis.
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05-10-2008, 02:42 PM #96
I am indeed biased toward the methods I believe work. I firmly believe in the Max-OT Training principles. I'll always give you all angles as I state my opionions (as I hope is apparent here).
What you need to do is lift as heavy as you can--without causing such damage to your joints. That will be different for all of us.Read my personal story "I Kept This A Secret From You My Entire Natural Bodybuilding Career" ===> www.skiplacour.com/is-this-all-there-is
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05-10-2008, 02:49 PM #97
Thanks for the detailed response Skip.
I dont know..I just feel like I have everything down. Training,rest,nutrition,supplementation..I'm just not consistent. 1 Bad workout ruins the whole week.
I think also because I cheat on weekends..Last edited by PacMan8; 05-10-2008 at 02:57 PM.
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05-10-2008, 03:00 PM #98
Well that is obvious Skip. Lift as heavy as you can without causing damage to your joints. The thing is, over a long period of time, do you really believe 4-6 reps ALL THE TIME won't inevitably cause damage?
Also do you still always train to failure?
I believe in stimulating not annihalating as well. But no matter how short your workouts, training to failure all the time with 4-6 reps, to me, would be the equivalent of overtraining.
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05-10-2008, 03:03 PM #99
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05-10-2008, 03:16 PM #100
I do understand that, but I have noticed when I touch the upper pec with my other hand, move one arm to test out if i'm properly contracting the inner fibers. I have noticed I am not contracting really at all. Just on the outer side (coincedentally the side that is seeing results) So I thought it was a focus problem and really concentrated on trying to stimulate maximum contraction. It just doesnt seem to happen with these exercises i'm doing unfortunately..
Thanks for your replyLast edited by weltweitefurcht; 05-10-2008 at 03:31 PM.
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05-10-2008, 03:43 PM #101
In the terminology that you used here, are "inevitable damage" and "overtraining" the same thing?
Some people might say that any type of training will cause "inevitable damage". I think what you are saying is heavy training all the time will cause inevitable damage? 4 to 6 reps has nothing to do with it because can use light weight and train 4 to 6 reps too. I'm sure you don't think that 4 to 6 reps with light weight will cause damage.
So, it goes back to what I'm saying. If you want to build the most muscle in the shortest period of time, you need to constantly overload the muscle. If you want to "damage control" (in this case literally ), then you shouldn't train as heavily.
You shouldn't train to failure if you think you will get hurt. You shouldn't lift heavy weight if you think you will get hurt.
All people won't inevitably get hurt training to failure or training heavily. Why? Because "failure" and "heavy" are so subjective!Read my personal story "I Kept This A Secret From You My Entire Natural Bodybuilding Career" ===> www.skiplacour.com/is-this-all-there-is
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05-10-2008, 08:38 PM #102
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05-11-2008, 03:26 AM #104
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Welcome Skip! You have always been one of my favs!
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05-11-2008, 04:28 AM #105
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Hi Skip.
I haven't got any questions for you I just want to say thanks for posting on here and helping out all the members with detailed answers.
You're the man!No regrets, only lessons learnt.
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05-11-2008, 06:29 AM #106
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05-11-2008, 08:05 AM #107
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Great show today Skip. I liked the advice about committing to a program for 3 months and leaving the mind uncluttered. I think that is a huge problem I myself have. I over-think things and am always looking for that next great program. I am gonna commit to Max-OT for 90 days and see where it takes me.
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05-11-2008, 11:02 AM #108
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Hi skip, I think you are a great bodybuilder and it's good to have you on the forum!
I am 5'9, 143lbs with about 14% bodyfat. I have always been skinny and I want to put on some good muscle but I am finding it hard to get my nutrition spot on. What would sort of diet would the best for me to put on lots of muscle without gaining bodyfat? I was thinking around 3000-3500 calories a day with macros of 40% protein, 30% carbs and 30% fats all from foods as clean as possible. Do you think this would work good?
And also, once I've worked out the correct calories and macros I find it hard to make up an actual diet plan. What is the best way to get my diet sorted so I can make optimal gains?
Thanks"Love the workout, not the results." - Greg Plitt.
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05-11-2008, 11:40 AM #109Read my personal story "I Kept This A Secret From You My Entire Natural Bodybuilding Career" ===> www.skiplacour.com/is-this-all-there-is
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05-11-2008, 11:53 AM #110
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No I have not implemented it yet. My diet is a bit hap-hazard just now and I have been guessing to be honest. I am finding it hard to get my diet plan together. I don't mind eating the same thing everyday if I can get a diet plan I like. Right now I am just trying to work out what would be best for me and then once I get a good diet plan sorted I will try and stick to it.
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05-11-2008, 11:54 AM #111
Skip..what are your thoughts on carb depleted diets?
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05-11-2008, 12:01 PM #112
Stop Searching for the Perfect Diet!
Stop Searching for the Perfect Diet!
Choose an Eating Program That Makes Sense and Get to Work
For many of us, learning just how important our nutritional habits are to the way we look usually comes after a period of frustration. We can?t seem to figure out why our bodies don?t look as good in the mirror as we think they should--especially for the amount of time and effort we?ve invested in the gym.
"I work out really hard but I can't seem to pack-on any muscle!" or "I do a lot of cardio but I can't seem to lose this body fat!" are common complaints expressed by many people who are trying to improve their physiques.
One of the first things you begin to understand about training is that, if you don?t back up what you do in the gym with intelligent and consistent eating practices, you will minimize your results. It?s been said that how you eat determines up to 80 percent of the way your body will look. If you want to build muscle and stay lean, you absolutely must follow an effective nutritional plan.
Once we finally do recognize the importance of nutrition, shouldn't we immediately be on the right path toward creating the body we really want? The biggest obstacle that was once standing in the way has now been pushed aside and our frustration is over, right?
Well, not exactly. For many people, their biggest challenge has now just revealed itself! Many people don?t even start eating as well as they could because they have a very difficult time deciding upon the "perfect" diet to help reach their goals. I believe that finding that ?perfect? diet has become a huge distraction that prevents them from fully focusing on and adhering to a nutritional plan.
So what exactly makes up this perfect diet that?s causing many of you to procrastinate? By the perfect diet, I?m referring to an eating program that tastes good, allows plenty of food to be eaten, helps you shed body fat and build muscle--quickly and painlessly.
Also, the perfect diet must not be so strict that you can't go off of it every once in awhile, or whenever you want to for that matter, without impeding your amazing progress. Now, I know that I might be exaggerating a little about how accommodating some people want an effective muscle building, fat-loss diet to be for them--but I'm probably not exaggerating as much as you might think!
I can certainly understand why a person wouldn't want to waste their time and effort following anything less than the ideal eating program. But, the desire to discover a painless alternative to good old fashioned discipline prevents many from getting themselves going in the first place. If you never start eating properly, you can't expect significant results, can you?
Adam Carolla, television comedian and radio talk show host, once said "Everyone is looking for some easy way of eating to lose weight. Look! You're probably going to have to eat some crappy food that you really don?t care for--and eat that way longer than you want! There's no magic secret!'
Can eating properly be that simple--and so difficult at the same time? Many authorities on nutrition, diet gurus and book authors certainly wouldn?t want you to believe that to be true.
Are there some diets that may be more effective at building muscle and losing body fat than others? Sure. Just about any structured diet can be very effective at helping you reach your goals--if you follow the program as it's outlined and do so for an extended period of time. With enough discipline and time, you don't need to know all the intricacies of exact nutrient timing throughout the day, how to manipulate your insulin levels, or even know exactly what type of carbohydrates your body responds to the most effectively.
So, you see, there is a real need for the advice being offered by the nutrition experts--but you need to decide on which one you?re going to follow. With a more empowered mindset and aggressive approach, the job on finding a suitable eating plan should be a lot easier.
Stop postponing your progress! You may just need to jump into an eating regimen that sounds logical to you and give it your full focus and attention. You can always make adjustments after you?ve been on the diet for enough time.
Let's stop pleading ignorance and make things more complicated than they need to be. Let?s make a decision and and get to work! The benefits are waiting for us once we commit to and follow a structured eating plan.
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05-11-2008, 12:05 PM #113
So, Let me "coach" you though a new way of thinkinbg, okay?
What YOU think about this "carb depleted" diet?
What do you see as the benefits?
What do you see as the possible downsides?
Have you tried it?
If so, what kind of results did you get and long did you try it?
If you have not, why not?
If I said I thought it was "great", would you give it 3 months of 100% of you focus and attention--or are you just seeking more information?
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05-11-2008, 12:07 PM #114
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05-11-2008, 12:11 PM #115
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Thanks Skip, I know you are right. I need to make up my diet plan and follow it for a few months and see what results I get then adjust it from there.
I am really interested in learning more about getting the correct mindset. My self-discipline and dedication is not very good at all. Not just with bodybuilding but with all areas of my life."Love the workout, not the results." - Greg Plitt.
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05-11-2008, 12:14 PM #116
Thanks for be a good sport and being so "coach-able".
I want to give you more than just answers. Any answer I give can get get debated over and over again--and where does that leave you? Just more confused!
I want to give you the right mindset to make the best decisions; get to work; and have a point of reference to make better, more thought out; more educated decisions later on.Read my personal story "I Kept This A Secret From You My Entire Natural Bodybuilding Career" ===> www.skiplacour.com/is-this-all-there-is
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05-11-2008, 12:15 PM #117
A great philosophy. In the fast paced world world we live in, everyone is afraid of getting left behind. There is so much "bro science" and so many different strategies being thrown around. They're scared (including myself) of 3 months- or whatever time frame- being wasted on something that doesn't work. Its hard to see the bigger picture and actually see that it isn't wasted time if you learn something.
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05-11-2008, 01:35 PM #118
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Skip,
My gym does not have a hyperextension bench, what could be substituted for hyperextensions during Max-OT?
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05-12-2008, 12:48 PM #119Read my personal story "I Kept This A Secret From You My Entire Natural Bodybuilding Career" ===> www.skiplacour.com/is-this-all-there-is
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05-12-2008, 12:50 PM #120
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