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    Lower Back Spasm Help

    OK I have no idea whats going on. My lower lat area all day has been given me sh!t!!!!!!!!! I'll be fine and turn and all of a sudden my lower back gets all tight and sends a sharp pain up and down my body then goes away. I have no idea what I did any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by cervasa1977 View Post
    OK I have no idea whats going on. My lower lat area all day has been given me sh!t!!!!!!!!! I'll be fine and turn and all of a sudden my lower back gets all tight and sends a sharp pain up and down my body then goes away. I have no idea what I did any suggestions?
    Alternate ice and heat. Reason being is the heat can make the inflammation worse if used too much. It sounds like it's not completely pulled, so be careful on how you move. Also sounds like it could be sciatica nerve pain since it happens when you move. That gets worse when you move around and better when you don't.

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    Did you do anything working your lower back...deads, pehaps? It could be a number of things from a pulled muscle to a muscle strain. Try doing a cold/heat treatment. First, apply a cold pack to the area for 20 minutes, then do the same with a warm pack. Alternate for an hour and a half to two hours. That ought to help with the tightness and pain.

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    get a dep tissue massage 2 morrow it you can, helps me with my lower back after it gets all tight from deadlifts and heavy running in the same day.

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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    Alternate ice and heat. Reason being is the heat can make the inflammation worse if used too much. It sounds like it's not completely pulled, so be careful on how you move. Also sounds like it could be sciatica nerve pain since it happens when you move. That gets worse when you move around and better when you don't.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/sciatica/article.htm
    Its crazy its comes on all of a sudden then a few seconds later its fine. Thanks for the suggestion

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    Did you do anything working your lower back...deads, pehaps? It could be a number of things from a pulled muscle to a muscle strain. Try doing a cold/heat treatment. First, apply a cold pack to the area for 20 minutes, then do the same with a warm pack. Alternate for an hour and a half to two hours. That ought to help with the tightness and pain.

    *EDIT* Aries beat me to it.
    Not sure what caused it I had chest yesterday morning and even though this has been bothering me all day I did back today. I know probably not the smartest thing to do but I hate missing a workout. Hopefully the ice will help
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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    Alternate ice and heat. Reason being is the heat can make the inflammation worse if used too much. It sounds like it's not completely pulled, so be careful on how you move. Also sounds like it could be sciatica nerve pain since it happens when you move. That gets worse when you move around and better when you don't.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/sciatica/article.htm
    Also, how far down does the pain go down? Is it a shooting pain? If so, then it could quite possibly be sciatica involved. This could be caused by a number of things, but most often, a bulging or herniated disc. As Aries said, be careful on how you move, and take a break from any lifitng for a few days. Keep alternating the heat and cold treatment. Hope this helps man...and I hope you feel better.
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    Originally Posted by TangoandCash View Post
    get a dep tissue massage 2 morrow it you can, helps me with my lower back after it gets all tight from deadlifts and heavy running in the same day.

    I get it for free....got love that GF of mine.


    Oh, the HOt COLD thing is a must.
    Well I am in a hotel tonight for work then fly out n the morning not looking forward to sitting on a plane for a few hours....Maybe this place has one of those 1-800 come to your room and give you message kinda girls for my back of course
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    is it by your spine? I get that right to the left of my spine and its so fing annoying.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Also, how far down does the pain go down? Is it a shooting pain? If so, then it could quite possibly be sciatica involved. This could be caused by a number of things, but most often, a bulging or herniated disc. As Aries said, be careful on how you move, and take a break from any lifitng for a few days. Keep alternating the heat and cold treatment. Hope this helps man...and I hope you feel better.
    really it starts right where my lower right lat ends and then the pains shoots out from there.

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    is it by your spine? I get that right to the left of my spine and its so fing annoying.
    not the spine more the muscle its just a crazy sharp pain
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    Originally Posted by cervasa1977 View Post
    Its crazy its comes on all of a sudden then a few seconds later its fine. Thanks for the suggestion



    Not sure what caused it I had chest yesterday morning and even though this has been bothering me all day I did back today. I know probably not the smartest thing to do but I hate missing a workout. Hopefully the ice will help
    Not smart at all, man. You may have aggravated the injury. I know how you feel about missing workouts, but trust me...it's better for you in the long run. I was stubborn and I wound up having to have surgery for my bulging disc and my herniated disc.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Not smart at all, man. You may have aggravated the injury. I know how you feel about missing workouts, but trust me...it's better for you in the long run. I was stubborn and I wound up having to have surgery for my bulging disc and my herniated disc.
    I know man I travel a ton for work so when I can get a workout in am pumped. The crazy thing is that during my workout my back felt great. I didn't do deads which I normally do, so I did take it easier then normal.
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    Originally Posted by cervasa1977 View Post
    really it starts right where my lower right lat ends and then the pains shoots out from there.



    not the spine more the muscle its just a crazy sharp pain
    So it's not the lower part of your back? If it's right at the lower part of your lat, it could be a pulled muscle or an inflamed nerve. keep doing the heat/cold treatment, but also take some Tylenol or some Ibuprofen to help the inflammation.
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    Originally Posted by cervasa1977 View Post
    really it starts right where my lower right lat ends and then the pains shoots out from there.



    not the spine more the muscle its just a crazy sharp pain
    Where does the pain end? Usually sciatica pain starts in the lower back and radiates down the buttcheek on one side. It either stops there or continues down the leg of the same side.
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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    Where does the pain end? Usually sciatica pain starts in the lower back and radiates down the buttcheek on one side. It either stops there or continues down the leg of the same side.
    starts at the lower lat area and goes up to my lower neck and down just above my buttcheek on my right side
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Also, how far down does the pain go down? Is it a shooting pain? If so, then it could quite possibly be sciatica involved. This could be caused by a number of things, but most often, a bulging or herniated disc. As Aries said, be careful on how you move, and take a break from any lifitng for a few days. Keep alternating the heat and cold treatment. Hope this helps man...and I hope you feel better.
    I have been dealing with that (a shooting pain) for the past month or so. Almost to the point I can't stand up straight. I tried a chiro but it did nothing so I just learn to deal with it. Never thought about a bulging disk. Would an MRI show something like that
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    So it's not the lower part of your back? If it's right at the lower part of your lat, it could be a pulled muscle or an inflamed nerve. keep doing the heat/cold treatment, but also take some Tylenol or some Ibuprofen to help the inflammation.
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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    Where does the pain end? Usually sciatica pain starts in the lower back and radiates down the buttcheek on one side. It either stops there or continues down the leg of the same side.
    With my injury, the pain went all the way down to my calf from my lower back. It was hell at night because the pain would wake me up...like a dull, aching pain.
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    Originally Posted by njmuscle66 View Post
    I have been dealing with that (a shooting pain) for the past month or so. Almost to the point I can't stand up straight. I tried a chiro but it did nothing so I just learn to deal with it. Never thought about a bulging disk. Would an MRI show something like that
    Chiro won't do **** for you man (serious). A bulging disc or disc herniation will definitely show up on an MRI. A shooting pain usually means there's pressure put on the nerve from the disc. Talk with your physician and see about getting an MRI.
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    Originally Posted by cervasa1977 View Post
    starts at the lower lat area and goes up to my lower neck and down just above my buttcheek on my right side
    Hmmmmm....not exactly sure about that. Could be a pulled muscle or disc injury causing nerve impingement. It's hard to say without knowing the exact type of pain you're feeling. I'd be very careful and if it doesn't get better with home treatment in a few days to a week I would see a doctor.

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    I have been dealing with that (a shooting pain) for the past month or so. Almost to the point I can't stand up straight. I tried a chiro but it did nothing so I just learn to deal with it. Never thought about a bulging disk. Would an MRI show something like that
    Yes. I had an MRI done a little while ago. I have four herniated/bulging disks, Stenosis, and other stuff I don't understand...lol. Possible arthritis in my back and all of this at the ripe old age of 28.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    With my injury, the pain went all the way down to my calf from my lower back. It was hell at night because the pain would wake me up...like a dull, aching pain.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    With my injury, the pain went all the way down to my calf from my lower back. It was hell at night because the pain would wake me up...like a dull, aching pain.
    Trust me I know I have constant nerve pain.
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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    Trust me I know I have constant nerve pain.
    Yeah...I truly feel your pain. I had to just break down and have surgery. I still feel pain and stiffness from time to time, but not nearly as bad as before the surgery. Have you considered it (surgery)?
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Yeah...I truly feel your pain. I had to just break down and have surgery. I still feel pain and stiffness from time to time, but nearly as bad as before the surgery. Have you considered it (surgery)?
    I'm seeing a neurosurgeon the 22nd to discuss my options. My regular doc is sure I'll need it if I ever want to feel normal again. She thinks it's pretty severe.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Chiro won't do **** for you man (serious). A bulging disc or disc herniation will definitely show up on an MRI. A shooting pain usually means there's pressure put on the nerve from the disc. Talk with your physician and see about getting an MRI.
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    Originally Posted by njmuscle66 View Post
    I have the referral just have not gone yet but I will. I keep getting a tingling down my back and then it hits my calves. Got so bad that I went from deadlifting in the 500's to not being able to do 225 without pain. You guys convinced me to go-thanks
    Good. I'm still working on another person to go. Let us know how it goes. Hopefully you aren't in as bad of shape as me
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    Originally Posted by ~~Aries~~ View Post
    I'm seeing a neurosurgeon the 22nd to discuss my options. My regular doc is sure I'll need it if I ever want to feel normal again. She thinks it's pretty severe.
    Yeah...Go ahead and do it. I waited almost 6 years to gat it done, mainly from just being stubborn and fear of getting worse. The longer I waited, the worse it got. I went from a pulled muscle to a muscle strain to a bulging disc to disc hernation to disc herniation with degenerative disc disease...So it got progressively worse.


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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Yeah...Go ahead and do it. I waited almost 6 years to gat it done, mainly from just being stubborn and fear of getting worse. The longer I waited, the worse it got. I went from a pulled muscle to a muscle strain to a bulging disc to disc hernation to disc herniation with degenerative disc disease...So it got progressively worse.


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    Originally Posted by njmuscle66 View Post
    I have the referral just have not gone yet but I will. I keep getting a tingling down my back and then it hits my calves. Got so bad that I went from deadlifting in the 500's to not being able to do 225 without pain. You guys convinced me to go-thanks
    Good. I would also suggest leaving the deads alone until you get an official diagnosis. No use aggravating the injury. Another thing...Say no to the cortisone spinal shots; they don't do ****! I'm pretty sure Aries can back me up on this.
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    Originally Posted by dark_man812 View Post
    Good. I would also suggest leaving the deads alone until you get an official diagnosis. No use aggravating the injury. Another thing...Say no to the cortisone spinal shots; they don't do ****! I'm pretty sure Aries can back me up on this.
    I haven't gotten any actually, but I've heard they only help for a short time.
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    There can be a lot of speculation on NSAIDS and half assed physical therapy but I went through that **** for 3 years with my back spasm. Until this weekend, I was in constant pain and couldnt sit up for a long time, or do half the stuff I wanted. I finally got it fixed by my chiropractor. Nothing has beaten it. 5 minutes with him, back spasm gone after 3 years. No more shoulder pain, neck pain, all of the sudden great blood flow everywhere, better endurance at my tournament.

    3 years of vicodin, temazepam, diazepam, like 8 NSAIDS, physical therapy, all amounted to nothing. 5 minutes with my chiropractor, done. I wouldnt have believed it if it didnt happen to me.

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