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Old 05-05-2008, 08:40 AM   #1
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How does this push/pull routine look?

Im training for mass/strength,power. Strength days I will do high weight, low reps (5x5). Mass days I will do slightly lower, but still heavy weight, higher reps (8-10x3).

I have a high carb/protien/calorie diet.

Here is my push pull routine:
Mon: [Pull/mass] Dead lifts 8-10x3, BB rows 8-10x3, Shrugs 8-10x3, BB curls 8-10x3, pull ups 8-10x3, Seated leg curls 8-10x3.

Tue: [Push/mass] BB Bench press 8-10x3, BB Mil Press 8-10x3, BB squats 8-10x3, Weighted Dips 8-10x3, Seated leg extentions 8-10x3.

Wed: OFF

Thu: [Pull/Strength] Dead lifts 5x5, BB rows 5x5, Shrugs 5x5, BB curls 5x5, weighted pull ups 5x5, Seated leg curls 5x5.

Fri: [Push/Strength] BB Bench press 5x5, BB Mil Press 5x5, BB squats 5x5, Weighted Dips 5x5, Seated leg extentions 5x5.

Sat: OFF

Sun: OFF
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Old 05-05-2008, 08:54 AM   #2
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looks pretty solid to me. you might want to do different variations of benchpress every now and then and different squat variations.
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:15 AM   #3
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imo you should be doing your strength earlier in the week and your hypertrophy workouts 2nd..
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
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imo you should be doing your strength earlier in the week and your hypertrophy workouts 2nd..
Interesting, why is that?
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Old 05-05-2008, 10:52 AM   #5
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Interesting, why is that?
Only a guess here, but I'd think because when you're training for strength, it'd be most optimal to use the greatest weights you could move. Achieving hypertrophy earlier in the week probably won't allow for this, prefatiguing the muslces a bit.

Possibly give your routine a shot, and then switch it up so the strength portion is first, then compare the numbers.
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Only a guess here, but I'd think because when you're training for strength, it'd be most optimal to use the greatest weights you could move. Achieving hypertrophy earlier in the week probably won't allow for this, prefatiguing the muslces a bit.

Possibly give your routine a shot, and then switch it up so the strength portion is first, then compare the numbers.
x2, for me anyway at te start of the week I am more focused, have more energy etc.

Working low rep, heavy weight is taxing physically + mentally, you also have to get strong before you get big








Being realistic, are you going to be able to do 30 sets on your heavy days?

You have 5 sets DL, 5 rows then 5 of shrugs, you will be hitting the shoulder pretty har, you could maybe think about chucking in some good mornings from time to time?

Also have you thought about throwin in a couple of Weighted Cable crunches? IMO the best builder for ab/stablity strength as a supplementary exercise to core lifts

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Old 05-05-2008, 12:24 PM   #7
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Only a guess here, but I'd think because when you're training for strength, it'd be most optimal to use the greatest weights you could move. Achieving hypertrophy earlier in the week probably won't allow for this, prefatiguing the muslces a bit.

Possibly give your routine a shot, and then switch it up so the strength portion is first, then compare the numbers.
That makes sense.
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Im training for mass/strength,power. Strength days I will do high weight, low reps (5x5). Mass days I will do slightly lower, but still heavy weight, higher reps (8-10x3).

I have a high carb/protien/calorie diet.

Here is my push pull routine:
Mon: [Pull/mass] Dead lifts 8-10x3, BB rows 8-10x3, Shrugs 8-10x3, BB curls 8-10x3, pull ups 8-10x3, Seated leg curls 8-10x3.

Tue: [Push/mass] BB Bench press 8-10x3, BB Mil Press 8-10x3, BB squats 8-10x3, Weighted Dips 8-10x3, Seated leg extentions 8-10x3.

Wed: OFF

Thu: [Pull/Strength] Dead lifts 5x5, BB rows 5x5, Shrugs 5x5, BB curls 5x5, weighted pull ups 5x5, Seated leg curls 5x5.

Fri: [Push/Strength] BB Bench press 5x5, BB Mil Press 5x5, BB squats 5x5, Weighted Dips 5x5, Seated leg extentions 5x5.

Sat: OFF

Sun: OFF
I personally would scrap the leg extentions and replace them with squats for a better mass gainer, compound lift, and gets testoterone pumping.
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:31 AM   #9
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I personally would scrap the leg extentions and replace them with squats for a better mass gainer, compound lift, and gets testoterone pumping.
I already have squats in there.
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I know, I'm saying get rid of the leg extensions (unless you have chicken legs and need to pick em up) because if you do squats right and deep enough you don't need em. Like I said though if you're trying to pick up you legs put them on the other day. I know you're not suppose to train the same muscle two days in a row, but legs are a bit different seeing as they are worked everyday and can handle a bit more.
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Old 05-06-2008, 10:59 AM   #11
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ahhhh ok i see what your saying.
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