Cheat days, i never cheat, can that be bad?

kongorikishi · 05-03-2008, 05:36 PM

Basically, I haven't had cheat days ever. And i've been on a strict diet for over a year, maybe more like two. I have days when i'm stricter than others (although now i'm on a cutting cycle all are max strict), but i've never eaten any junk or ****e.

Is this bad?

It may sound good, but I was thinking, could it be that the body gets accustomed to the strict diet, and just expects it as normal (not to improve), and should I be having cheat days like everyone else so that the body doesn't get used to the lean diet and start taking it for granted, so to speak? Any thoughts on this?

I hope my explanation is adequate so y'all know what i'm trying to get at!

Another thing, when I was younger I used to eat all kinds of crap and was a lot skinnier. Maybe this was just youth. But my body has never made sense, any thoughts on this too? Even then my genetics were bad, but I trained a lot and was okay, even eating crap. Now I train a lot and eat good, and it's even harder to get results!! AHHHRRRR!!!!!

thepointman · 05-03-2008, 05:37 PM

no.

FameGirl · 05-03-2008, 05:41 PM

I don't think you need to have a cheat day, however, i doubt it would hinder your results. So i don't think you will really see any negative or positive long term effects from an occasional cheat day. So go for it if you want, but in my opinion it isn't necessary.

LayzieBone085 · 05-03-2008, 07:03 PM

I dont cheat either, dont feel bad, I find it satisfying to eat over 4k calories of healthy foods a day.

LC123 · 05-03-2008, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

I dont cheat either, dont feel bad, I find it satisfying to eat over 4k calories of healthy foods a day.

i wouldnt consider an all you can eat indian food buffet clean food buddy

LayzieBone085 · 05-03-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LC123

i wouldnt consider an all you can eat indian food buffet clean food buddy

First time in a long time man, believe me, well see what they have to offer

and that is monday so i havented cheated YET

ask many that know me, they know how strict I am on my diet.

soundcheck129 · 05-03-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LC123

i wouldnt consider an all you can eat indian food buffet clean food buddy

Indian buffets don't count as cheats since they're god's greatest gift to man.

LC123 · 05-03-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

First time in a long time man, believe me, well see what they have to offer

and that is monday so i havented cheated YET

ask many that know me, they know how strict I am on my diet.

im not calling you out or anything but i remember you saying in an earlier post to someone that you go to this awesome indian food buffet whenever your home...also...i wouldnt say you have not cheated yet...remember those whole tombstone's you would down after football????? but then again, you wernt on your diet then so I GUESS its not really cheating...

LayzieBone085 · 05-03-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LC123

im not calling you out or anything but i remember you saying in an earlier post to someone that you go to this awesome indian food buffet whenever your home...also...i wouldnt say you have not cheated yet...remember those whole tombstone's you would down after football????? but then again, you wernt on your diet then so I GUESS its not really cheating...

there is no indian food where i live, im going to pittsburgh to visit my brother on monday and he bought me a ticket for a concert for my b-day back in march for a band i like, and he offered to take me out to eat at this indian resturant because he says the food is great, so im not going to pass up a meal especially on the brother.

but yeah those football days were about 3 years ago when i started to transform my body and diet and going from 240 to what i am now ( was 125 believe it or not)

Sixpack · 05-03-2008, 09:10 PM

I don't cheat I actually crave healthy food, if i want more I eat more healthy food. I go out to eat I make the best possible choice available. I don't eat fast food or any processed garbage. I make pizza and I make a healthy version of it.Anything can be almost made into being healthy with some tweeks

-Aaron- · 05-03-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

I don't cheat I actually crave healthy food, if i want more I eat more healthy food. I go out to eat I make the best possible choice available. I don't eat fast food or any processed garbage. I make pizza and I make a healthy version of it.Anything can be almost made into being healthy with some tweeks

I challenge you to make a healthy chocolate cake with fudge.

Tyme2Fish · 05-03-2008, 09:21 PM

easy use splenda, egg whites, whole wheat flour, baking soda, vanilla, coco and milk for the batter. oh n some no sugar added organic applesauce instead of oil.

and for the fudge frosting use some melted dark chocolate w/ cottage cheese and Natty pb muuuuuuuuuum nom nom nom

Sixpack · 05-03-2008, 09:23 PM

lol well I should of said anything but items that have to be baked. I am sure it could be done, but I am the wrong person to try it lol

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I challenge you to make a healthy chocolate cake with fudge.

-Aaron- · 05-03-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyme2Fish

easy use splenda, egg whites, whole wheat flour, baking soda, vanilla, coco and milk for the batter. oh n some no sugar added organic applesauce instead of oil.

and for the fudge frosting use some melted dark chocolate w/ cottage cheese and Natty pb muuuuuuuuuum nom nom nom

That sounds fantastic. . .

-Aaron- · 05-03-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

lol well I should of said anything but items that have to be baked. I am sure it could be done, but I am the wrong person to try it lol

I was hoping you would prove me wrong.

Now I'm disappointed...

Tyme2Fish · 05-03-2008, 09:24 PM

ya dude i can whip up anything healthy im in the culinary arts field at le cordon blue.

Rodzilla · 05-03-2008, 09:25 PM

OP, why are you cutting brah?

r3pnIt · 05-03-2008, 09:26 PM

never cheated... dam props to you brah... cheating is what makes me stronger. haha, but dam.. props to you man... but you gotta go to bb kings and get there sticky wings!!! OMG

Sixpack · 05-03-2008, 09:26 PM

I have not had cake in years I could really care less how to make it healthy lol. I will take a steak and baked potato and call it a meal

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I was hoping you would prove me wrong.

Now I'm disappointed...

-Aaron- · 05-03-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodzilla

OP, why are you cutting brah?

Good God, I just say his stats...

OP, why are you cutting brah?

kongorikishi · 05-04-2008, 09:56 AM

Wow I didn't expect such a great response. Thanks all. Okay in response to all.....

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Originally Posted by thepointman

no.

I presume you mean no it's fine never cheating.

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Originally Posted by FameGirl

I don't think you need to have a cheat day, however, i doubt it would hinder your results. So i don't think you will really see any negative or positive long term effects from an occasional cheat day. So go for it if you want, but in my opinion it isn't necessary.

Hmmm okay so I guess it doesn't matter either way as long as i'm consistently clean. I just don't trust the body. Especially mine. It always adapts, but never in my favor! It adapts against me!

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

I dont cheat either, dont feel bad, I find it satisfying to eat over 4k calories of healthy foods a day.

Haha okay. Well, it's a challenge for me to eat 6 small meals even to be honest. Thing is this is the reason why I don't cheat. I have no desire to. Unlike other people eating is just a hassle for me whether it's clean or dirty. It's not any kind of pleasure. Yeah there's stuff I like the taste of but it's not worth the hassle. If I could exist without eating that would be great. But i've got no choice, I have to eat for survival and for buffing. But yeah I don't see myself as on a diet, it's not like that, I just live day by day eating as clean as possible. So I don't really have desires to eat crap. So anyway due to the hassle of eating, 4k calories of clean stuff hah wow i'd die of sickness. I mean being sick and tired of eating! I also get sick and tried of things very easily and very quickly, that's another problem I have!

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Originally Posted by Sixpack

I don't cheat I actually crave healthy food, if i want more I eat more healthy food. I go out to eat I make the best possible choice available. I don't eat fast food or any processed garbage. I make pizza and I make a healthy version of it.Anything can be almost made into being healthy with some tweeks

I kinda understand that cause junk stuff just isn't at all desirable to me anymore, it's just like, ugh sick. I just see a blubbersome whale when I look at a hamburger or something and thing, uh no thanks.

Anything? I'm not good at cooking and I don't have time to make stuff hah, so I just have a really simple plain boring diet. In fact I was gonna say can you guys check my other post too about my cutting diet and let me know what you reckon? I could do with some input to improve it buffwise and taste/variety wise. I really hate eating the same stuff over and over!

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

I challenge you to make a healthy chocolate cake with fudge.

That would be interesting. But in my case i'm also not into sweets so that's easy for me, it just seems sickly these days, anything sweet. Plus I use ON Whey it's the only supplement I have. And it's sweet enough so that I never need anything sweet ever! :-S

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Originally Posted by Tyme2Fish

easy use splenda, egg whites, whole wheat flour, baking soda, vanilla, coco and milk for the batter. oh n some no sugar added organic applesauce instead of oil.

and for the fudge frosting use some melted dark chocolate w/ cottage cheese and Natty pb muuuuuuuuuum nom nom nom

(And to sixpack too)

If only you guys were my personal chefs hah i'd never get bored diet wise!

kongorikishi · 05-04-2008, 10:02 AM

Okay so here's some more replies. I thought i'd break them up a bit.

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Originally Posted by Rodzilla

OP, why are you cutting brah?

Well, cause i'm way too fat. Hah I guess that's a simple enough reason.

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Originally Posted by r3pnIt

never cheated... dam props to you brah... cheating is what makes me stronger. haha, but dam.. props to you man... but you gotta go to bb kings and get there sticky wings!!! OMG

Hahah.. Thanks, but I wish I got some pleasure from dining like other people do. But yeah really I don't desire to eat anything, clean or dirty. Unfortunately they don't have BB Kings here, but I went to the one in New York way over a year ago. I think I had a steak though and didn't eat the stuff with it and chopped all the bad looking bits off hah. Unfortunately BB King himself wasn't there!

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Originally Posted by -Aaron-

Good God, I just say his stats...

OP, why are you cutting brah?

Well as above, i'm way too fat. And the stats, do you mean the weight and waist size? Yeah they look like small amounts, but my height is also a small amount! Hah. So comparatively speaking, well it still sounds okay I guess on paper. But in reality it looks and feels way too fat. As you can see in my photo gallery..... :-S

I got set back a lot due to injuries so it's a harsh time to catch up from scratch.

FameGirl · 05-04-2008, 10:08 AM

I don't think you look fat at all, haha. Based on your stats you look like you would be scrawny, but looking at your pictures you look great! Keep up the good work.

kongorikishi · 05-04-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FameGirl

I don't think you look fat at all, haha. Based on your stats you look like you would be scrawny, but looking at your pictures you look great! Keep up the good work.

Haha well thanks, and yeah well my body has never made sense and maybe never will. Maybe my bones are light or something hah.

r3pnIt · 05-04-2008, 10:18 AM

ya i went to the one in new york to.. there famous for their sticky wings. there so big and sticky and juicy (no homo).... i dont even wanna think how bad they are for you

Dracoy · 05-04-2008, 10:51 AM

I've been bulking so I think I cheat every day now haha. I'm not talking about bad foods, I'm talking about large quantities

Also I'm more leniant with what I eat.

LayzieBone085 · 05-04-2008, 10:59 AM

5'5 130 i dont see what fat you can be holding in all seriousness. Seeing ur stats man u may be cutting urself to disaster (no joke) you better re-think what your doing maybe just maintain and hit the weights hard and get cut up.

dmaaack · 05-04-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

5'5 130 i dont see what fat you can be holding in all seriousness. Seeing ur stats man u may be cutting urself to disaster (no joke) you better re-think what your doing maybe just maintain and hit the weights hard and get cut up.

yea man you could end up at an unhealthy weight for your height if you keep cutting. start a clean bulk.

kongorikishi · 05-05-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by r3pnIt

ya i went to the one in new york to.. there famous for their sticky wings. there so big and sticky and juicy (no homo).... i dont even wanna think how bad they are for you

Hahah I didn't see those.

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Originally Posted by Dracoy

I've been bulking so I think I cheat every day now haha. I'm not talking about bad foods, I'm talking about large quantities

Also I'm more leniant with what I eat.

Lucky you ha.

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Originally Posted by LayzieBone085

5'5 130 i dont see what fat you can be holding in all seriousness. Seeing ur stats man u may be cutting urself to disaster (no joke) you better re-think what your doing maybe just maintain and hit the weights hard and get cut up.

Yeah I know where you're coming from, but if you look in my photos you'll see what I mean, you'll see some fattyness there.

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Originally Posted by dmaaack

yea man you could end up at an unhealthy weight for your height if you keep cutting. start a clean bulk.

And as above.

Bandolero · 05-05-2008, 07:59 PM

I do cheat days... pizza, burgers, pasta, ribs, ice cream, you name it... i just try keep the protein about the same as every other day of the week. Trust me bro it wont **** up your gains if you have a cheat meal or day once a week. Im still ripped and super dry doing this so no one can tell me otherwise.