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    Keto Teen?

    I am 16y/o, 5"5, 150bs, and 15%BF
    I have been using SKD for a while as well as CKD.
    I really enjoyed the SKD because my acne stays under control.
    Once I add carbs I seem to start breaking out.
    If I eat carbs it is to spike insulin after training in the evening.

    What should I do?
    Is there a way to add carbs and keep hormones balanced?

    Thank you
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    If I eat carbs it is to spike insulin after training in the evening.
    That's completely unnecessary.

    Protein will create all the insulin spike you need.

    What kind of carbs give you acne?
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    I follow carb-backloading... I understand I get acne but I usually eat more processed foods as carbs when I refeed I guess... cookies sometimes etc. This is once a week though... I don't eat that everyday.
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    Back loading is great I've done it but remember this if you are backloading after every training session you are not getting back into keto for 24-36 hours so if you train every day or even every other day you will not re enter ketosis just so you know , but that also depends how many carbs you are eating
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    I understand I get acne but I usually eat more processed foods as carbs when I refeed I guess... cookies sometimes etc. This is once a week though... I don't eat that everyday.
    You're acne might be related to eating poor quality foods. Focus on low GI/GL carbs that are minimally processed. Oats, sweet potatoes, beans for example.

    Carb backloading is totally unnecessary and lacks scientific evidence.
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    Originally Posted by JonBana View Post
    Back loading is great I've done it but remember this if you are backloading after every training session you are not getting back into keto for 24-36 hours so if you train every day or even every other day you will not re enter ketosis just so you know , but that also depends how many carbs you are eating
    Yeah I've been doing CBL or Carb Nite so one session of refeeding.. I am going full keto for maybe a month to see how it goes. Thanks
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    You're acne might be related to eating poor quality foods. Focus on low GI/GL carbs that are minimally processed. Oats, sweet potatoes, beans for example.

    Carb backloading is totally unnecessary and lacks scientific evidence.
    I have read the book. I can email it to you if you want. It is written from a very science based perspective
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    I have read the book. I can email it to you if you want. It is written from a very science based perspective
    I know the book. Unfortunately you can not tell the difference between good science and cherry picking studies to make some questionable claims.

    Here's a good review of Carb Back Loading: http://jose****u.com/2013/05/04/an-o...oading-part-1/

    Here's John Kiefer admitting he was wrong: http://www.fitnflexed.com/article/jo...kloading-wrong
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    I have read the book. I can email it to you if you want. It is written from a very science based perspective
    I have the book too , you realize all his quotes aka science based are missing the truth right someone or I should say many people debunked that everything he talked about was complete bull and a lie and he left out the real results to make it look good.....


    one example I remember in his book he recommends fast digesting carbs and protein PWO then he goes on about what you think im going to recommend a slow casein before bed to slow down growth hormone before bed I recommend cottage cheese....... Mmmm that's casein and slow , hes full **** $hit to sell his book , it has worked but its not because his theory its because calories in vs out .

    since ive been full keto ive notice no change in strength or weights I actually have better energy than carb backloading and feel better
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    I know the book. Unfortunately you can not tell the difference between good science and cherry picking studies to make some questionable claims.

    Here's a good review of Carb Back Loading:

    Here's John Kiefer admitting he was wrong:

    Kiefer doesn't admit he is wrong... he basically says he addresses some carb choices in his new book CBL 2.0
    Nothing was outright wrong or completely off.. His stand on insulin and carb timing seems to remain
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    Kiefer doesn't admit he is wrong... he basically says he addresses some carb choices in his new book CBL 2.0
    Nothing was outright wrong or completely off.. His stand on insulin and carb timing seems to remain

    His fact are wrong the the studies he quotes in his books are wrong , read the actually studies he quotes in his books you will see they where short aka 5-6days or he left out half the studie to make his diet seem logical ,


    CBL works I've don't it but it works just like any other diet theres no magic behind it ,
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    Kiefer doesn't admit he is wrong... he basically says he addresses some carb choices in his new book CBL 2.0
    Nothing was outright wrong or completely off.. His stand on insulin and carb timing seems to remain
    Lol. "So I'm pretty much convinced that the insulin hypothesis as it stands is totally wrong. Insulin is not the culprit that is causing issues…."

    Now read his book again.

    Not that it matters what Kiefer says, because CBL isn't backed up by scientific evidence anyway.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Lol. "So I'm pretty much convinced that the insulin hypothesis as it stands is totally wrong. Insulin is not the culprit that is causing issues…."

    Now read his book again.

    Not that it matters what Kiefer says, because CBL isn't backed up by scientific evidence anyway.
    YEP. Kiefer promotes utilizing insulin spikes at the correct time... There is science behind that... He never was against insulin spikes just using it when necessary
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    Originally Posted by AnonymousLad10 View Post
    YEP. Kiefer promotes utilizing insulin spikes at the correct time... There is science behind that... He never was against insulin spikes just using it when necessary
    Unfortunately you can not distinguish between credible science and cherry picked nonsense. This is why you fell for CBL in the first place.

    Read the link by Joseph Agu or search for what Alan Aragon says about CBL.
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