Gymnastics training....

[rsnuk]

What do they do?

Heavy compound lifts, like power cleans, bench, deadlifts(?), squats(?)..?

Swiss balls stuff like core presups, situps?

Lots of ab and lower back work?

Cardio?

Flexibility(given).

I want to be a good break dancer and figure i need to develop gymnastic type strength for planches etc...

[LargeWill]

Originally Posted by rsnuk

What do they do?

Heavy compound lifts, like power cleans, bench, deadlifts(?), squats(?)..?

Swiss balls stuff like core presups, situps?

Lots of ab and lower back work?

Cardio?

Flexibility(given).

I want to be a good break dancer and figure i need to develop gymnastic type strength for planches etc...

Why don't you ask actual break dancers instead of Body Builders/ Powerlifters

www.breakdanceforum.com/

[jei64822]

From my experience, gymnasts usually do moderate weight work, and a ton of bodyweight exercises.

[wirelessg]

lmao bboying u dont even need to kno those gymnastic **** to help out, but it will make the powermoves look better before u start.. are u being teached or just watching off youtube videos?

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by jei64822

From my experience, gymnasts usually do moderate weight work, and a ton of bodyweight exercises.

Pleeeeeeeaaaseee please elaborate....

[wirelessg]

go to www.bboy.org , lots of tutorials, or look up youtube ones, theres quite a few thats good, and start on basic freezes like turtle freeze, baby freeze, and shoulder freeze. You should at least know the basics first before going to powermoves imo, or windmills

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

lmao bboying u dont even need to kno those gymnastic **** to help out, but it will make the powermoves look better before u start.. are u being teached or just watching off youtube videos?

Youtube, i can do handstands for about 10 seconds(couldn't do them at all a week ago), 2 veriations of the 6 step and the the 3-step, working on the baby freeze, to get into handspins.

I'm 6ft 1" tall 190 lbs, but can only bench 160 lbs for 3x8

120lbs 3x8 military

My lb for lb strength is not good, but i have quite alot of fat to shed...

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

go to www.bboy.org , lots of tutorials, or look up youtube ones, theres quite a few thats good, and start on basic freezes like turtle freeze, baby freeze, and shoulder freeze. You should at least know the basics first before going to powermoves imo, or windmills

thankyou

What i really want to know is, what type of routine do i follow to increase my bboy ability?

If i want to be like Bboy junior( i don't mind losing a leg...)..

To do plaches like him, has to be an ultiamte goal...

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

go to www.bboy.org , lots of tutorials, or look up youtube ones, theres quite a few thats good, and start on basic freezes like turtle freeze, baby freeze, and shoulder freeze. You should at least know the basics first before going to powermoves imo, or windmills

where is the section showing the tutorials? can't find it...

[wirelessg]

just keep practicing... and baby freeze u should be able to master it in a day lol..

heres some links, good infos

Air flare tutorial - gamblers crew, very good tutorial

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ8OcRGHU8

flare tutorial
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nk1-s3gE-
3E&feature=PlayList&p=4ABAF67FEF57FEA6&index=1

windmill:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftiC6jub71M

each of the videos have good instructions, and the windmill one got some routine to help ur windmills out

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

just keep practicing... and baby freeze u should be able to master it in a day lol..

heres some links, good infos

Air flare tutorial - gamblers crew, very good tutorial

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MbZ8OcRGHU8

flare tutorial
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nk1-s3gE-
3E&feature=PlayList&p=4ABAF67FEF57FEA6&index=1

windmill:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ftiC6jub71M

each of the videos have good instructions, and the windmill one got some routine to help ur windmills out

Yea i meant baby freeze with no head or second hand on floor...

Thanks,

still need suggestions on what routine to follow, i have the next 6 months with every single hour open to do what i want and i live 2 minutes away from a gym with a dance studio that's almost always availble to use...

[wirelessg]

lol man ur lucky.. i only get tips from my friends and my friends friends who break... no dance studios near where i live =/ well good luck, if ur tired of practicing those moves or losing interest u can always try new things like popping, ticking, tutting

[rsnuk]

Originally Posted by wirelessg

lol man ur lucky.. i only get tips from my friends and my friends friends who break... no dance studios near where i live =/ well good luck, if ur tired of practicing those moves or losing interest u can always try new things like popping, ticking, tutting

Well there are no dance teachers, which is why it's almost always open for use, the internet shall be my teacher...

Yeah man i'm trying to learn all of that aswell, i'm pretty good at gliding, sliding and arm waving, bodywaving i could do right away, but i don't know how to break it down into isolations.

Still need a damn gymnastics workout routine...

Thanks for your help.

[raemerso]

Originally Posted by rsnuk

Well there are no dance teachers, which is why it's almost always open for use, the internet shall be my teacher...

Yeah man i'm trying to learn all of that aswell, i'm pretty good at gliding, sliding and arm waving, bodywaving i could do right away, but i don't know how to break it down into isolations.

Still need a damn gymnastics workout routine...

Thanks for your help.

Well we do a lot of different conditioning sets depending on the muscles we're trying to sculpt. I'm not sure what your goals are, but seeing that you're wanting to breakdance you're going to need a very strong core & hip flexors...this website should get you started

http://www.drillsandskills.com/skills/cond

A couple of other training exercises I would recommend:

~Dumbell maltese press
~handstand hop pushups
~Red dots (L-press to handstand, 3 handstand pushups, lower back to L, repreat three times without resting in between)
~Pull overs (On a set of pbars/paralletes, start from an upper arm hang and lift to an L, pulling your feet up and over your head as far as you can go, then slowly roll back to an L, hold for 3 seconds, then repeat)
~Stradle raises (on a set of narrow paralletes, hold a raise to a stradle L as many times as you can. very good work out for hip flexors)
invert sit ups, weighted
~Dip hops, weighted
~Ring Pull ups, weighted


You can get a set of rings for $70 here: http://www.ringtraining.com/store/eliterings.html

I HIGHLY recommended ring training.

[Skippy_nate]

Gymnastics training:

"Can you do this for 10 reps?" "No" "Can you do it for 1?" "Yes" "Do it until you can do 10. Then add weight to it. GO NOW"

Gymnastics training is pretty effing good though, but it takes quite a while to develop the strength needed for alot of the exercises, but you build the strength through various kinda...strength holds. Like handstands, tuck planches and what not. Best going on an actual gymnastics conditioning kinda forum for it haha.

[raemerso]

I must also point out that as concerned with strength you are, you MUST also focus equally on flexibility.


Flexibility is HUGE, maybe even more important than strength when it comes to gymnastics and breakdancing.

So stretch your splits, pancakes (stradle on floor press your chest all the way to the floor), WRISTS, shoulders, back, and abs EVERY day.

I promise you, the last thing you want is to be strong an inflexible. All the muscle will be worthless and you'll just end up injuring yourself.

[Skippy_nate]

Ah yes, flexible wrists are a ****ing +++++++++++++ must be worked on! or handstands will rape your wrists forever.

[burningNun]

I don't think most gymnasts do much squatting. They don't look like they do, at any rate.

[raemerso]

The closest thing we do to squats is frog jumps in the pit, 1-leg squats on floor, and calf raises.

[washboardabs]

Gymnasts don't do a lot of work with weights--aside from weighted jumps and one-legged squats, etc. They mostly do bodyweight exercises. Check out gymnasticbodies.com, they've got some good stuff on there, and a forum.

[NrgExplosion]

Hey guys i am a Gymnast and have been since i was like 6... but yeah you would be surprised to know that we didn't ever do that much weight training, alot of it is just intense core body weight stuff....

Think about it we train 6 days a week for 3-4 hours a night, we do pull ups and swings on rings (rips your bis and shoulders and back),

we do dips and swings on
Parrallel Bars (rips triceps, arms, abs),

we do like squats and lunges on Floor (rips up your legs)

Vault we just do alot of explosive jumps also good for your legs,
Pommel horse is alot of core abdominal work and bis and tris.

And High bar uses your arms and back and core also.

So imagine doing all this 6 days a week for 3-4 hours a night, lifting your won body weight. Your going to grow!

Ps. Gymnastics stunts your growth so alot of the guys weight like 170lbs on a 5 foot 6 inches Frame>

Welcom Nrg

[Big_fuzzy]

Move yourself balaistically through the air.

[mroth86]

Originally Posted by NrgExplosion

Hey guys i am a Gymnast and have been since i was like 6... but yeah you would be surprised to know that we didn't ever do that much weight training, alot of it is just intense core body weight stuff....

Think about it we train 6 days a week for 3-4 hours a night, we do pull ups and swings on rings (rips your bis and shoulders and back),

we do dips and swings on
Parrallel Bars (rips triceps, arms, abs),

we do like squats and lunges on Floor (rips up your legs)

Vault we just do alot of explosive jumps also good for your legs,
Pommel horse is alot of core abdominal work and bis and tris.

And High bar uses your arms and back and core also.

So imagine doing all this 6 days a week for 3-4 hours a night, lifting your won body weight. Your going to grow!

Ps. Gymnastics stunts your growth so alot of the guys weight like 170lbs on a 5 foot 6 inches Frame>

Welcom Nrg

I am a gymnast too, but the "gymnastics stunts your growth" IS an old wives tale. I did some research on it for something at school actually, and it's mostly untrue. I know TWO gymnasts who are 6 feet or over (one is 6 foot, the other is 6'2") and have been doing it since they were 5. There is also a gymnast on U of Oklahoma that's 6'3" and U of Iowa has a bunch of that are 5'11" and 6 foot (and one that's 6'1" i think)

You definitely have an advantage if you're shorter, but to say that it stunts your growth..not usually, but sometimes

[washboardabs]

If you're still interested, a buddy of mine just started a forum about gymnastic training. it's at http://gymnastictraining.lefora.com --he actually switched over from bbing to doing stuff on the rings, mostly.

[mattogus]

if you ever want to have any ambition in breakdancing.. real term=bboying, then you really have to experience it for yourself.. find out where "jams" are happening... get involved.. practice wherever.. etc. you have to really have a LOVE for dancing yaknow?

overall for me it was/slightly still is one of the most satisfying artistic form of self expression. I kind of have "stopped" because of bodybuilding aspiration, that and if i still danced a lot I'd have to up my calorie intake by 1-2 thousand a day...

bboy.org use to be my most visited website ever.. god damm!! this makes me wanna get back! lol

if you truly have a love for the dance.. then its completely noticeable in your style..

or you can go for the powerhead route=
http://www.bboy.org/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=30723
thats KYS.. awesome powermoves. no style lol. he got owned at BC one
filipinobreaka=my old bboy.org name.

this was me two years ago lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX7uqjmopCI

heres a SUPER old video of me. watch
http://www.bboy.org/gallery/showphot...0&ppuser=56840
lol

oh yeah i was pretty damn good at airchairs too...
http://www.bboy.org/gallery/showphot...0&ppuser=56840

[toilatoi]

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[Nuno_AlveS]

Originally Posted by rsnuk

What do they do?

I want to be a good break dancer and figure i need to develop gymnastic type strength for planches etc...

[icezz]

If you want to be better at planches then do planches. If you're looking for power you need to work on your flexibility as much as your strength as stated above. A big note to remember is always warm up your wrists before you strength train or practice your so called "break-dancing". Most importantly have patience bboying is like weight training you don't see results instantly and could take up to months before you even realize them. Good luck!