Reccomend me a supplement (serious, no cell tech)

LetFireFall · 04-30-2008, 05:27 PM

Alright guys, finally got a good job, recommend me some supps, I have basics like Whey, multi and creatine.

I'm open for suggestions

Joseph61189 · 04-30-2008, 05:28 PM

some goals would be nice for better recommendation

batmanman · 04-30-2008, 05:30 PM

Steak!

LetFireFall · 04-30-2008, 05:31 PM

Cutting right now but I don't want a fat burner.

I want to cut from 205 to 185 and than bulk, strength is my biggest goal.

LetFireFall · 04-30-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zachman08

Steak!

No, I have enough in my diet, I'm cutting right now. Please no bull**** responses like this I eat enough food I don't.

Vipersg123 · 04-30-2008, 05:32 PM

beta alanine

Joseph61189 · 04-30-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LetFireFall

Cutting right now but I don't want a fat burner.

I want to cut from 205 to 185 and than bulk, strength is my biggest goal.

what you have right now is good, personally all i would add now is some bcaa

PowerClean117 · 04-30-2008, 05:32 PM

NO-Shotgun. Best pre-workout supplement hands down.

LetFireFall · 04-30-2008, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipersg123

beta alanine

Thanks, I was personally interested in this, any ideas what brand I should go for or just bulk?

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Originally Posted by Joseph61189

what you have right now is good, personally all i would add now is some bcaa

Yeah I was thinking that too, any idea on what brand, maybe xtend?

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Originally Posted by PowerClean117

NO-Shotgun. Best pre-workout supplement hands down.

eh,thanks for the suggestion but I can't afford to pay for something that doesn't do much I get caffeine pills instead.

arsilva · 04-30-2008, 05:36 PM

nah..get vasocharge. prewrokout, has beta-alanine. i love it. i've actually really been liking Animal MStak...supposed to be good for a cut

Vipersg123 · 04-30-2008, 05:39 PM

Ide just go with bulk primaforce beta alanine.

jdawg2197 · 04-30-2008, 05:41 PM

purple wrath plus uw ont blue ur entire check bro

has eaa and bcaa which r good for keeping muscle during a cut

PowerClean117 · 04-30-2008, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by arsilva

nah..get vasocharge. prewrokout, has beta-alanine. i love it. i've actually really been liking Animal MStak...supposed to be good for a cut

I take shotgun and Betasine. LOVE that stack.

mattyoc3 · 04-30-2008, 05:45 PM

flax seed, vitamin c, vitamin b complex

LetFireFall · 04-30-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mattyoc3

flax seed, vitamin c, vitamin b complex

Yeah I have both of those except the vit b I never really saw them as supps, they've been part of my diet since I was young

Joseph61189 · 04-30-2008, 05:48 PM

ON's Instantized 5000 BCAA is not bad

PrincessSparkle · 04-30-2008, 05:53 PM

nooooooo one has mentioned FISH OIL

FISH OIL

50%+ concentration is best.

PowerClean117 · 04-30-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessSparkle

nooooooo one has mentioned FISH OIL
FISH OIL
50%+ concentration is best.

The hell does fish oil even do anyways?

Joseph61189 · 04-30-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessSparkle

nooooooo one has mentioned FISH OIL
FISH OIL
50%+ concentration is best.

care to explain to me how fish oil increases strength?

Vipersg123 · 04-30-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerClean117

The hell does fish oil even do anyways?

its mainly omega 3 fatty acids these are essential to anyones diet. Omega 3 and 6 are essential we lack to the desaturase enzymes to make any fatty acids under an omega 9 position fatty acid.

Omega 3 = anti inflammitory and anti clotting, can also help with fat loss. Helps prevent cardiovascular issues, too much can promote hemmorhaging and things like cerebral edema

Omega 6= pro inflammitory and pro clotting, can help with fatloss as well and some can possibly help with muscle gain (arachodonic acid), helps prevent hemmorhaging and such, too much promotes cardiovascular and other inflammitory diseases.

reason its a good supp. is becaue barely anyones diet has a decent amount of omega 3's...

It won't affect performance much, but if anything could help decrease bodyfat easier on a cut.

PrincessSparkle · 04-30-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipersg123

its mainly omega 3 fatty acids these are essential to anyones diet. Omega 3 and 6 are essential we lack to the desaturase enzymes to make any fatty acids under an omega 9 position fatty acid.

Omega 3 = anti inflammitory and anti clotting, can also help with fat loss. Helps prevent cardiovascular issues, too much can promote hemmorhaging and things like cerebral edema

Omega 6= pro inflammitory and pro clotting, can help with fatloss as well and some can possibly help with muscle gain (arachodonic acid), helps prevent hemmorhaging and such, too much promotes cardiovascular and other inflammitory diseases.

reason its a good supp. is becaue barely anyones diet has a decent amount of omega 3's...

It won't affect performance much, but if anything could help decrease bodyfat easier on a cut.

ya increasing your ratio of 3's to 6's can also increase insulin sensitivity

so increasing your omega 3 intake and decreasing/elmiminating your omega 6's can help you lose fat and recover faster

Vipersg123 · 04-30-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessSparkle

ya increasing your ratio of 3's to 6's can also increase insulin sensitivity

so increasing your omega 3 intake and decreasing/elmiminating your omega 6's can help you lose fat and recover faster

slightly, there's a lot of mixed results on this topic so I tend to not include that in the explanation. But I will say that it deffinately might play a role.

WOH WOH WOH, NEVER ELIMINATE OMEGA 6's! Thats just asking for trouble... not to mention it would be pretty darn impossible to do such a thing. Whered ya get the recovery thing from?

PrincessSparkle · 04-30-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipersg123

slightly, there's a lot of mixed results on this topic so I tend to not include that in the explanation. But I will say that it deffinately might play a role.

WOH WOH WOH, NEVER ELIMINATE OMEGA 6's! Thats just asking for trouble... not to mention it would be pretty darn impossible to do such a thing. Whered ya get the recovery thing from?

this may give you some more insight

http://www.t-nation.com/article/diet.../the_fword&cr=

PrincessSparkle · 04-30-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipersg123

slightly, there's a lot of mixed results on this topic so I tend to not include that in the explanation. But I will say that it deffinately might play a role.

WOH WOH WOH, NEVER ELIMINATE OMEGA 6's! Thats just asking for trouble... not to mention it would be pretty darn impossible to do such a thing. Whered ya get the recovery thing from?

i meant to some extent peopls omega3/6 ratios can be out of wack. with all the crap oil america consumes like vegtable oil and ****, there omega3/6 rations can be like 1:20

Vipersg123 · 04-30-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PrincessSparkle

this may give you some more insight

http://www.t-nation.com/article/diet.../the_fword&cr=

no i fully understand... but you said eliminate omega 6's... that would be a dumb idea. And doing so would not lead to an increase in recovery. Infact doing so could completely blunt inflammation and the crucial proteins created during that phase which actually cause recovery... inflammation is a GOOD thing as far as muscle repair goes.

edit: Yeah i get that, thats why I said increase omega 3 fat intake because we don't eat enough.