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Favorite Bodybuilders of all-time (in no particular order):
Shawn Ray
Kevin Levrone
Flex Wheeler
Victor Martinez
Ronnie was the defending champ and Flex did not do enough to dethrone him. Ronnie was in good condition that year and had a TON of mass on Flex. Look at the difference in the pecs when they're just standing there... The only areas Flex has Ronnie on are the oil-enhanced ones...
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Ronnie was the defending champ and Flex did not do enough to dethrone him. Ronnie was in good condition that year and had a TON of mass on Flex. Look at the difference in the pecs when they're just standing there... The only areas Flex has Ronnie on are the oil-enhanced ones...
does that include abs? i thought flex had much better abs and his arms looked bigger to me too
I have learned that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.
-Henry David Thoreau
Favorite Bodybuilders of all-time (in no particular order):
Shawn Ray
Kevin Levrone
Flex Wheeler
Victor Martinez
I vote Flex over Ronnie due to personal preference in terms of asthetics,lines and that kind of aspects but if i were a judge i also would have choosen Ronnie for the winner...
But i don't think this is one of those years that Ronnie's win can be debated,if we were to debate Ronnie's wins when he probably could have lost,those years were 2001 and 2002...
does that include abs? i thought flex had much better abs and his arms looked bigger to me too
The arms were oil-enhanced....
And the may have been better relaxed, but ronnies arms are almost bicep peaks are probably the greated of all time. His tris matched Flex's too in actual flexing shots. Ronnie had much more "hardness" in his arms. Flex's were kind of just big...
Obviously Flex had better ab genetics, but their waists were very close to the same size and condition at this particular show.
Last edited by J_Bo; 04-29-2008 at 02:16 PM.
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Other then oil on his calves and shoulders i doubt Flex had oil on his arms,his biceps and triceps were always very big and full with a nice peak...but i can be wrong because Flex used to be a lazy dude and i would not be surprised if he also had a bit of oil in the arms...
No question that Ronnie was the clear winner though. His muscularity and conditioning wasn't even in the same universe as the other two. Lights out:
I would have placed Flex behind Cormier. Flex's arms and delts that year just took away from things IMHO.
Last edited by Duckenheimer; 04-29-2008 at 02:20 PM.
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No question that Ronnie destroyed him in overall mass, separation + conditioning - and in my personal opinion, due to Flex's disproportionate arms and delts - symmetry.
I think a lot of people are like that... They prefer Flex's look, but if you really break down the factors, Ronnie was obviously the superior bodybuilder...
Edit: just saw your edit... Damn! Cormier was awesome that year, too... Haven't had a top 3 that good in a while.
Last edited by J_Bo; 04-29-2008 at 02:21 PM.
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Other then oil on his calves and shoulders i doubt Flex had oil on his arms,his biceps and triceps were always very big and full with a nice peak...but i can be wrong because Flex used to be a lazy dude and i would not be surprised if he also had a bit of oil in the arms...
Judging by the way they look nowadays, I would have to assume he used it in his arms...
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I think a lot of people are like that... They prefer Flex's look, but if you really break down the factors, Ronnie was obviously the superior bodybuilder...
1993 Flex, with that kind of conditioning and quality, may have been a worthy challenger to a much larger Ronnie. But the softer and synthol filled late 90s Flex, just didn't have the edge on conditioning over Coleman, which would be necessary to fend off such a monstrously sized competitor.
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1993 Flex, with that kind of conditioning and quality, may have been a worthy challenger to a much larger Ronnie. But the softer and synthol filled late 90s Flex, just didn't have the edge on conditioning over Coleman, which would be necessary to fend off such a monstrously sized competitor.
But ronnie had moar hardness, a larger clavicle, and larger back and legs in 99
One thing that i always thought of is that Chris Cormier was the only bodybuilder who could trump Ronnie in the genetics department and overthrow ronnie coleman.
He had a great blend of asthetics size fullness and was a bodybuilders bodybuilder.
It's a video of both guys standing relaxed. One guy worked his a$$ off physically and mentally (Ronnie), and the other guy half a$$ed his way mentally and physically while injecting his body with oil (Flex). I like Flex, but I would never award a guy filled will oil as the winner. Flex without oil is one of the best of all-time though. Ronnie in 99' was just too big and ripped that year to lose. That is probably Ronnie at his best and in my opinion the best physique of all-time.
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Ronnie was the defending champ and Flex did not do enough to dethrone him. Ronnie was in good condition that year and had a TON of mass on Flex. Look at the difference in the pecs when they're just standing there... The only areas Flex has Ronnie on are the oil-enhanced ones...
I vote Flex over Ronnie due to personal preference in terms of asthetics,lines and that kind of aspects but if i were a judge i also would have choosen Ronnie for the winner...
But i don't think this is one of those years that Ronnie's win can be debated,if we were to debate Ronnie's wins when he probably could have lost,those years were 2001 and 2002...
i fail to see how ronnie was any less asthetic then flex in 99
you just think ronnie is and always was a un apealing mass monster.. he still had a small ass waist in 99
if anything i would pick ronnie as being more aesthetic then flex, and IMO he just blew everyone out of the water that year, i think 99 was ronnies best year.
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Originally Posted by Duckenheimer
I much prefer Flex's physique.
No question that Ronnie was the clear winner though. His muscularity and conditioning wasn't even in the same universe as the other two. Lights out:
I would have placed Flex behind Cormier. Flex's arms and delts that year just took away from things IMHO.
Wow, you read my mind (serious). At least goin by that vid. Flex was a little bigger in the limbs but Cormier's overall shape was better IMO, and Cormier's rear lat spread was better. Rear lat spread was always Flex's weak point.
Originally Posted by Newtime
i fail to see how ronnie was any less asthetic then flex in 99
you just think ronnie is and always was a un apealing mass monster.. he still had a small ass waist in 99
if anything i would pick ronnie as being more aesthetic then flex, and IMO he just blew everyone out of the water that year, i think 99 was ronnies best year.
Well I think Flex's waist was a little less distended but Ronnie wasn't totally bloated either. And honestly I also feel that Ronnie's overall aesthetics were better than Flex's that year.
This is just my opinion of course, but I feel that Flex looked REALLY good in the front double bi...but not much else. Oh ab and thigh looked good but overall didn't have the stage presence in it like the front double bi. Back double bi was good but severely lacked lower back thickness (not lower lat, I mean below the lats in the lumbar region, didn't have much of a christmas tree) so it threw the whole pose off.
Am I nitpicking? Yes. Still one of the greatest physiques ever, but I feel people tend to overlook his flaws, which honestly I found pretty glaring.
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Flex's shoulders and calves just bug the hell out of me.
I agree, the guy never should have placed in the top 5 after he did that **** to himself. Made a mockery of the sport and was an insult to the other competitors.
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i fail to see how ronnie was any less asthetic then flex in 99
you just think ronnie is and always was a un apealing mass monster.. he still had a small ass waist in 99
if anything i would pick ronnie as being more aesthetic then flex, and IMO he just blew everyone out of the water that year, i think 99 was ronnies best year.
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