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Old 04-28-2008, 05:16 PM   #1
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O/T....I'm stretching here....but....

ok, I'm going to put this in here because we all screw with our hormones so I thought some of you educated bros could chime in. If MIB or any other mod thinks it's retarded and has no business here feel free to pull it. This has to do with my girlfriend. I'm going to list the "symptons"

1) NO sex drive (sucks cuz I'm on test , been beating off like a spider monkey)
2) VERY tired, I mean sleeps 10+ a night during the week and 13+ on the weekends, literally 45-50% of the time.
3) MOODY to beat hell
4) Losing weight despite wrecking her diet as of late with more fast food and sh!t snacking
5) NO MOTIVATION, if she has to get her a** off the couch she's b!tching about it.
6) Been going on for at least 8 months

This sounds hormone related to me. So far we have had a blood test, short of a hormone panel (yeah I know, brilliant but I wasn't there), everything 'looked' fine according to her GP. We've tried St. Johns Wort, Iron, caffeine to keep her awake, even bought a new king bed wondering if it was quality, not quantity. Now she just sleeps more soundly for amazingly long periods of time. She drinks very little alcohol, is about 18-20% BF with good muscle tone, overall very good shape, played D1 volleyball so not a stranger to the gym. She is also on Yasmin birth control.

What do you guys think? I know MOST of us aren't doctors, and she is talking with her gyno (yucky word) and GP more about it, but I still want everyones opinion. I'm fit to be tied. Any other suggestions on things to try, or things to ask the docs?
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Depression. Look into medicenes that affect Seratonin/Dopamin levels, but consult a doctor before taking them.
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It could be a million different things. A proper blood test needs to be done to check hormone levels, otherwise it's just speculation. Could just be good old fashioned depression. Like I said, anything anyone says here is just speculation and you guys should really be concentrating on the doctors.
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Kinda sounds like the symptoms my wife had for the year she was taking Yasmin. No period also.
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are you sure she's not taking any anti-depressant pills? Sounds like my ex when she was on Prozac
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Birth control are known to mess with sex drive greatly. Any doctor can give her a better pill. There are TONS of birth control that will lower testosterone levels, alot do, and women NEED testosterone as it ups there sex drive JUST like men, I think yasmin is actually a lower testosterone birth control. Ask your doctor for a higher testosterone birth control. Ellse? Eylese? whatever that is one of them I believe. As I got my gf to switch her BC as well.
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you guys should really be concentrating on the doctors.
we are, as I stated, she is in contact with her gyno and GP to discuss the next steps. I am asking to see what experiences and opinions you guys have had.

I honestly don't think it's depression, she is moody around crimson tide time, but honestly what woman isn't, other than she is pretty happy and is successful. Her GP was thinking depression too, which we of course address if necessary, but I also think the gyno and birth control is an angle that makes more sense for her.
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Birth control are known to mess with sex drive greatly. Any doctor can give her a better pill. There are TONS of birth control that will lower testosterone levels, alot do, and women NEED testosterone as it ups there sex drive JUST like men, I think yasmin is actually a lower testosterone birth control. Ask your doctor for a higher testosterone birth control. Ellse? Eylese? whatever that is one of them I believe. As I got my gf to switch her BC as well.
yeah that's what her and I were just talking about. Ever hear of birth control causing lethargy? That is really the main issue. Estrogen lethargy is what is coming to my mind, but that is what men see with elevated estrogen...but with women I really don't know to be honest...
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Kinda sounds like the symptoms my wife had for the year she was taking Yasmin. No period also.
did she gets switched to something different?
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are you sure she's not taking any anti-depressant pills? Sounds like my ex when she was on Prozac
can't say 100% but we live together and I've never seen anything, and I'm snoopy!

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Is she getting enough B Vitamins? My wife is a vegaterian so she has to supplement B complex.
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yeah that's what her and I were just talking about. Ever hear of birth control causing lethargy? That is really the main issue. Estrogen lethargy is what is coming to my mind, but that is what men see with elevated estrogen...but with women I really don't know to be honest...
Hm, not sure, does she have the higher testosterone birth control? Cause my wife went through quite a few before we found a good one. Kept going up the list in testosterone higher ones the doctor showed us.
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It could be a million different things. A proper blood test needs to be done to check hormone levels, otherwise it's just speculation. Could just be good old fashioned depression. Like I said, anything anyone says here is just speculation and you guys should really be concentrating on the doctors.
just reread my post, sorry to come across as a dik, didn't mean it that way bro....
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ok, I'm going to put this in here because we all screw with our hormones so I thought some of you educated bros could chime in. If MIB or any other mod thinks it's retarded and has no business here feel free to pull it. This has to do with my girlfriend. I'm going to list the "symptons"

1) NO sex drive (sucks cuz I'm on test , been beating off like a spider monkey)
2) VERY tired, I mean sleeps 10+ a night during the week and 13+ on the weekends, literally 45-50% of the time.
3) MOODY to beat hell
4) Losing weight despite wrecking her diet as of late with more fast food and sh!t snacking
5) NO MOTIVATION, if she has to get her a** off the couch she's b!tching about it.
6) Been going on for at least 8 months

This sounds hormone related to me. So far we have had a blood test, short of a hormone panel (yeah I know, brilliant but I wasn't there), everything 'looked' fine according to her GP. We've tried St. Johns Wort, Iron, caffeine to keep her awake, even bought a new king bed wondering if it was quality, not quantity. Now she just sleeps more soundly for amazingly long periods of time. She drinks very little alcohol, is about 18-20% BF with good muscle tone, overall very good shape, played D1 volleyball so not a stranger to the gym. She is also on Yasmin birth control.

What do you guys think? I know MOST of us aren't doctors, and she is talking with her gyno (yucky word) and GP more about it, but I still want everyones opinion. I'm fit to be tied. Any other suggestions on things to try, or things to ask the docs?
How does your house look? Clean as normal? Not saying spotless, just normal. If it is filthy, be cautious. Everytime I have had a woman show the symptoms you have described, dope has been involved. Coke, meth or the like. Call me crazy if you want but it has been my experience. I have kicked more than one to the curb for this very reason. Just remember, women can hide that **** well. PM me for more info.
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How does your house look? Clean as normal? Not saying spotless, just normal. If it is filthy, be cautious. Everytime I have had a woman show the symptoms you have described, dope has been involved. Coke, meth or the like. Call me crazy if you want but it has been my experience. I have kicked more than one to the curb for this very reason. Just remember, women can hide that **** well. PM me for more info.
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Hm, not sure, does she have the higher testosterone birth control? Cause my wife went through quite a few before we found a good one. Kept going up the list in testosterone higher ones the doctor showed us.
just know she is on yasmin, which is a higher estrogen bc than the new yaz. Also found this....

"Yasmin birth control pill is the only contraceptive pill where drospirenone, a synthetic progestin and estrogen can be found; these two are the female sex hormones. Further, the progestin content in the pill is not based on testosterone."

on some website...http://www.articlesbase.com/women's-issues-articles/take-the-pills-and-protect-yourself-185048.html

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also found this....again, she is on yasmin. This stuff is actually pretty interesting...

The compound is part of certain newer oral contraceptive formulations:

Yasmin contains 3 mg drospirenone and 30 mcg ethinylestradiol per tablet. It is indicated for the prevention of pregnancy in women who elect an oral contraceptive.

Yasminelle contains 3 mg drospirenone and 20 mcg ethinylestradiol per tablet and is used for contraception.

Yaz contains 3 mg drospirenone and 20 mcg ethinylestradiol per tablet and is given for 24/4 days with the same indications.
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just know she is on yasmin, which is a higher estrogen bc than the new yaz. Also found this....

"Yasmin birth control pill is the only contraceptive pill where drospirenone, a synthetic progestin and estrogen can be found; these two are the female sex hormones. Further, the progestin content in the pill is not based on testosterone."

on some website...http://www.articlesbase.com/women's-issues-articles/take-the-pills-and-protect-yourself-185048.html

have no idea what that really means but found it interesting none the less!

Ah that seems like a big problem just like n4cer said bro, The testoterone ones are best period. Ask your doctor for sure when you go back about a higher testosteorne birth control and her sex drive is low thats exactly what we did and problem solved. they usually got a chart and honestly some are WAY under half the testosterone than some of them and my wife had 0 sex drive to. now shes normal again for awhile.

women with low testosterone will show signs of depression like men and low sex drive, obviously they dont need to get a erection LOL but testosterone is stil lthere libido booster.
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hey bro my girl just started using that ring thing u put in there and leave and its working great, sex drive is higher than ever. i dont know quite how it works but it seems like it wouldnt mess with hormones quite as much, it just releases something in there where she cant get prego.
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my bet would DEFINATELY be on the birth control

my girl does the shot, doesnt seem to effect her sex drive, im diggin it
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sounds like me when i had mono.


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How does your house look? Clean as normal? Not saying spotless, just normal. If it is filthy, be cautious. Everytime I have had a woman show the symptoms you have described, dope has been involved. Coke, meth or the like. Call me crazy if you want but it has been my experience. I have kicked more than one to the curb for this very reason. Just remember, women can hide that **** well. PM me for more info.
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Ah that seems like a big problem just like n4cer said bro, The testoterone ones are best period. Ask your doctor for sure when you go back about a higher testosteorne birth control and her sex drive is low thats exactly what we did and problem solved. they usually got a chart and honestly some are WAY under half the testosterone than some of them and my wife had 0 sex drive to. now shes normal again for awhile.

women with low testosterone will show signs of depression like men and low sex drive, obviously they dont need to get a erection LOL but testosterone is stil lthere libido booster.
See this makes the most sense to me, she should get into her doc in the next week or so

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hey bro my girl just started using that ring thing u put in there and leave and its working great, sex drive is higher than ever. i dont know quite how it works but it seems like it wouldnt mess with hormones quite as much, it just releases something in there where she cant get prego.
That's something I want her to consider, about the time she gets this figured out I'll done with my cycle....no more constant boners boooo and she'll probably be rearing to go

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my bet would DEFINATELY be on the birth control

my girl does the shot, doesnt seem to effect her sex drive, im diggin it
Depo right? Having her consider that one too, the bc seems to make the most logical sense, that and depression but I just can't see it.

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sounds like me when i had mono.


bc is a good bet though
lol, yeah it does. As I type she has been passed out for 45 minutes, made it to a whopping 8:15 tonight....whoooppeeeee
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thanks for all the great responses. I know most of us are just giving opinions, but to be honest I value opinions of you guys more than some doctor who is getting certain meds pushed on him. To me alot of docs are whores to the pharm companies.

I hope she gets this figured out, being asleep at 8:15 is killing daddy's chances at some nookie, I have to catch her first thing in the morning, but even then her drive is so low I don't stand much of a chance!
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low test levels, high estrogen, elevated cortisol levels, androgen-related thyroid/pitutitary were affected from other hormones being affected

it could be all those or one of them to cause all that, among other things mentioned in thread
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thanks for all the great responses. I know most of us are just giving opinions, but to be honest I value opinions of you guys more than some doctor who is getting certain meds pushed on him. To me alot of docs are whores to the pharm companies.

I hope she gets this figured out, being asleep at 8:15 is killing daddy's chances at some nookie, I have to catch her first thing in the morning, but even then her drive is so low I don't stand much of a chance!
Here we go, this was the one that was like the 3rd from the top of the chart for testosterone increasing birth control that she got from being near the bottom n this one worked its "Alesse"


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Here we go, this was the one that was like the 3rd from the top of the chart for testosterone increasing birth control that she got from being near the bottom n this one worked its "Alesse"


ha I thought you posted some porn for me to fap to since she's passed out.... damn the luck!
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low test levels, high estrogen, elevated cortisol levels, androgen-related thyroid/pitutitary were affected from other hormones being affected

it could be all those or one of them to cause all that, among other things mentioned in thread
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ha I thought you posted some porn for me to fap to since she's passed out.... damn the luck! but I usually go to http://www.ovguide.com/adult.html and xvideos.com and redtube.com and pornotube.com and youporn.com
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She is also on Yasmin birth control.

There's your answer right there. Research Birth Control and you will see that all the symptoms you listed are those of birth control.

And your assumption is also correct. Hormones get changed drastically when on birth control. I suggest either a new pill or new form of birth control.


EDIT: LOL, just read through thread and I realize this has been said many times. Like others have said, change birth control. May have spotting issues at first (like three months), but if you get the right pill, she will come back to normal.
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