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    I'm the skinniest piece of **** on here! (serious) (help)

    - I'm 21 years old.

    - My height is 5'4". (yes manlet)

    - I weigh about 102lbs. 105lbs on a REAL good day.

    - My face is about a 9 in looks. (thank god for that)

    - My body looks like a 12-year old boy.

    I'm built just like my father. I can practically eat a horse a day and not gain any weight. Gaining weight is seriously nearly impossible for me. My Dad didn't start gaining weight until he was in his 40's and now he's finally average and looks good.

    I always wear sweaters, jackets, and pullovers, because I look like a chode in a t-shirt.

    Everything else in my life is going ****ing fantastic except for this weight issue. I surprisingly have an insane amount of confidence for someone so puny, but I feel like a fraud. I'm seriously beyond ectomorph--I think my puny ass is in a class of its own.

    P.S.

    - I'm allergic to: fish, peanuts, milk, whey, and a bunch of other things.

    - Maybe I could gain a *little* bit of weight if I wasn't allergic to so many things. Sometimes I think I was just meant to be puny, ugh.
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    You can gain weight...anyone can gain weight if they eat enough calories.

    Wed have to see what your allergic to, to give you an idea of what to eat. I do know though that youll need to get in calorie dense foods to get calories in you.
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    lets see what a 'horse a day is.' Often people don't eat nearly as much as they think they do.
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    I will seriously do ANYTHING it takes, but I'm so bloody limited. This is going to be an enormous uphill battle, but I have no choice.

    I feel so small that I feel like someone could just pick me up and kidnap me. It ****ing sucks so much dick : (
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    Originally Posted by joeflex73 View Post
    You can gain weight...anyone can gain weight if they eat enough calories.

    Wed have to see what your allergic to, to give you an idea of what to eat. I do know though that youll need to get in calorie dense foods to get calories in you.
    Well, mainly just fish, whey, milk, and peanuts. I said a bunch of other things, but the other things aren't too significant. Any ideas bro?
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    - I'm 21 years old.

    - My height is 5'4". (yes manlet)

    - I weigh about 102lbs. 105lbs on a REAL good day.

    - My face is about a 9 in looks. (thank god for that)

    - My body looks like a 12-year old boy.

    I'm built just like my father. I can practically eat a horse a day and not gain any weight. Gaining weight is seriously nearly impossible for me. My Dad didn't start gaining weight until he was in his 40's and now he's finally average and looks good.

    I always wear sweaters, jackets, and pullovers, because I look like a chode in a t-shirt.

    Everything else in my life is going ****ing fantastic except for this weight issue. I surprisingly have an insane amount of confidence for someone so puny, but I feel like a fraud. I'm seriously beyond ectomorph--I think my puny ass is in a class of its own.

    P.S.

    - I'm allergic to: fish, peanuts, milk, whey, and a bunch of other things.

    - Maybe I could gain a *little* bit of weight if I wasn't allergic to so many things. Sometimes I think I was just meant to be puny, ugh.
    you arent the skinniest, eat whole eggs (shoot, eat the yolks and give away the white), nuts, olive oil and drink whole milk all the damn time.

    also sleep as much as you need to be rested

    do this and youll gain.. everyone can gain weight like the guy above me said

    EDIT: just saw what youre allergic to nvm ill make another post
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    Like hooked said, post up what you eat now. I bet it isn't as much as you think.
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    Relax....even considering you as an incredibly hardgainer, at your size, lets say 2500 calories a day. Thats considering in your height, age, weight and giving you some benefit of the doubt as a real hardgainer.

    2500 calories a day is not that hard to do. And even if its not enough, going up to 3000 calories a day is very doable.

    You can do it, but we need to know what you typically eat, what your allergic to and do you train at all?
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    eat beef, avocado, olive oil, whole eggs.

    if you really have problems, drink fruit juice instead of eating the fruit
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    Originally Posted by hooked4life View Post
    lets see what a 'horse a day is.' Often people don't eat nearly as much as they think they do.
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich

    - 1 bag of chips

    - 1 apple

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats

    - 1 cup of rice drink

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    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
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    Originally Posted by joeflex73 View Post
    Relax....even considering you as an incredibly hardgainer, at your size, lets say 2500 calories a day. Thats considering in your height, age, weight and giving you some benefit of the doubt as a real hardgainer.

    2500 calories a day is not that hard to do. And even if its not enough, going up to 3000 calories a day is very doable.

    You can do it, but we need to know what you typically eat, what your allergic to and do you train at all?
    im nowhere near ecto and im struggling to gain on 3200-3500, but i have no problem eating that much and am not complaining. heck i could do 4000 clean easily.
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    x2 post up the diet, and list some foods you can eat


    What can you have out of this list below:
    Eggs, Chicken, Turkey , Tuna, Beef, Salmon, Cottage Cheese, Yogurt
    Brown Rice, Whole Wheat bread / Wraps, Sweet Potatoes, Oatmeal
    Olive Oil, Avacadoes
    Fruit
    Veggies

    i know its small but this is all you need to bulk

    are you lactose intolerant? if you are they make lactaid milk and lactaid protein powders ( Dymatize is one of them)

    to get you some things to think about.
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    Thats not even alot of food.. If you've been eating like that and haven't been gaining weight, start adding some more food in. Your probably a hardcore ecto imo.
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich

    - 1 bag of chips

    - 1 apple

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats

    - 1 cup of rice drink

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    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
    That is NOT eating like a horse. That MIGHT cross 2500 calories depending on portion sizes.
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich

    - 1 bag of chips

    - 1 apple

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    -----------

    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
    Thats not very much, estimating about 1500-1800 calories. You definitely need to eat more. If large meals bother you, make them a little smaller and more frequent. You definitely need to be eating more if thats a typical day.
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal ~ 300 k cal

    - 1 cup of rice drink ~ 100kcal

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich ~saying 350kcal

    - 1 bag of chips ~150kcal

    - 1 apple ~80k cal

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables ~about 600 total

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats ~ 300

    - 1 cup of rice drink ~ 100

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    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
    2,000 calories.. yeah thats why your not gaining, and your also denying fats in your diet as well,

    Eat Veggies , Pasta + beef + Olive oil at least 2-3 times a day,

    are the oats dry or after its cooked? if so eat more of them and place olive oil on top of them for extra fats,

    start eating more Whole Wheat Breads and Pasta these arent very filling and easy calories.
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    i used to feel sick when i ate too much. so i manned up, ate anyway, and gained 65lbs in a couple of years
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    i'm kind of an endo and i am cutting on more. you can gain in the gym. eat more - lots more.
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    Originally Posted by Q-Ball83 View Post
    i used to feel sick when i ate too much. so i manned up, ate anyway, and gained 65lbs in a couple of years
    I don't mind feeling sick. I used to train and eat more than what I eat now, but it didn't do much of anything, so that's why I'm back into this state. I just didn't see it going anywhere.

    I have no problem manning up if I know that the thing I'm doing is going to work.

    Perhaps another issue is, I don't know what the **** to even do at the gym. I had a trainer and I learned some things, but then I couldn't afford it anymore.

    Great suggestions with the food guys. I am so grateful for your immense help--I'm taking everything here and going to try to come up with some sort of plan for myself. If I'm here, I must believe that there is some hope I suppose, or else I wouldn't be posting this, so maybe it's just that I'm not eating enough and I'm not training properly. I would like to think that.
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    ok - so eat more. and more fat. like lazie said. And you don't need a trainer.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sclark70.htm

    that is a good place to start - lots of solid compound heavy lifts. the site is full of vids. Spend some time looking around that.
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    I don't mind feeling sick. I used to train and eat more than what I eat now, but it didn't do much of anything, so that's why I'm back into this state. I just didn't see it going anywhere.

    I have no problem manning up if I know that the thing I'm doing is going to work.

    Perhaps another issue is, I don't know what the **** to even do at the gym. I had a trainer and I learned some things, but then I couldn't afford it anymore.
    Definitely do some reading on training then. The information is there.

    You can do the diet, its not a problem, but its all on how bad you want it. There isnt anyone who "Cant gain" or "Cant lose", everyone can.
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    stop making excuses and reflecting on the past. eat everything in sight that you can. you didn't do it right last time and you are not some magical specimen who can't gain weight, so eat more. be positive about it & set your goals.


    potato/sweet potato, steak, olive oil, rice, oats, chicken.
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    exactly what i thought, 3-4 meals a day. Try eating six larger meals a day and then tell me you cant gain any weight.
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    Eh I've met skinnier (including myself). When I was 14 I was your weight at 5'9.

    Just eat a lot (you don't need to clean bulk). For you 2800 calories might even be enough for now, since you don't weigh much,
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    Originally Posted by cncretecbwo View Post
    eat beef, avocado, olive oil, whole eggs.

    if you really have problems, drink fruit juice instead of eating the fruit
    x2.

    Keep up with the almond milk, make sure you're getting meat with plenty of fat, oats are great, sugar can probably do a lot for you also. If you do have as high of a metabolism as you say you do, just keep eating and forcing it down.
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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich

    - 1 bag of chips

    - 1 apple

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats

    - 1 cup of rice drink

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    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
    bro bro bro...You call this eating? Your breakfast is oatmeal and rice drink are you kidding? I eat 6 eggs and 2 oatmeals, trust me it gets old. Then lunch is 1/2 lb of chk with brocoli....Protein drink...anything I can get my hands on for dinner. I am an ecto 2, I still have trouble gaining one lb. But if I work out hard enough, I get hungry.

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    Originally Posted by need2growbig View Post
    breakfast:

    - 1 cup of oatmeal

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    lunch:

    - 1 sandwich

    - 1 bag of chips

    - 1 apple

    dinner:

    - steak, mashed potatoes, vegetables

    late night:

    - 1 cup of oats

    - 1 cup of rice drink

    -----------

    That's about a typical day. I have a hard time eating more than that. I must have a pretty small stomach or something because I feel sick if I eat too much.
    That's no horse son, I eat that by lunchtime. Just gradually but consistently increase your intake following the general consensus of advice from this thread

    Originally Posted by cncretecbwo View Post
    im nowhere near ecto and im struggling to gain on 3200-3500, but i have no problem eating that much and am not complaining. heck i could do 4000 clean easily.
    Do it then. I can eat 5500 cals "clean" without too much problem
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    Originally Posted by Diab0lic View Post


    Do it then. I can eat 5500 cals "clean" without too much problem
    If you would not mind letting me know how you go about doing that I would be much obliged. I am having trouble getting 4k, without eating ****e.

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