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Old 04-23-2008, 01:08 PM   #1
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neeed help with pushupss

My physical agility for my police test is comming up in the next few weeks... I can do the situps and the running but for some ****ing reason im struggling with the pushups...

i have to do 29 straight pushups, i know i know i know, should be easy, but i really really really have to push to hit 29.... ive been training with heavy weights for the past 3 months to build up chest/tri muscles and try to do pushups every other day...

anyone have any training ideas to help me do this! For reference, when i do chest workouts, i usually do incline then flat (plus other workouts) and on my last set of flat bench i do 70lb dumbbells for about 6/7 reps, so i mean i have some strength

I think my problem may be my arm length, pretty long, from hand to hand is about 6'2 but im only 5'10
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Old 04-23-2008, 01:13 PM   #2
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do more pushups. its the only real excercise you can do to get good at em.in h.s i got real good at em cause like everytime i went into my room or to take a **** i do like 20 or so. arm length has very little to do with it im 6'2 or i was before i joined the marines anyway and i could do upwards of 200 in a couple months for only doin like 6
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Get a backpack and put some weights in it and do pushups that way. If weights are uncomfortable use heavy books. This way, you are using the exact same form as regular pushups, just heavier.
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Get a backpack and put some weights in it and do pushups that way. If weights are uncomfortable use heavy books. This way, you are using the exact same form as regular pushups, just heavier.
i was thinking the same thing.... i thought i had a weighted vest but weights in a book bag is def a cheaper alternative
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Your muscles respond to how they are trained. If you are training your chest heavy, then that is how your chest will respond. It will be good at doing heavy weights for a short time.

You have to train it for endurance in this case. It sounds like you are already doing what is best. You want to do as many pushups as you can, so every two days or so, do a few sets of pushups with as many pushups as you can do.
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Bench pressing heavy won't help you much here. Do like 5 sets of 15 push ups if you can. Then if you can do that for at least 3 days a week, do 5 sets of 20 push ups. Then 25, then 30... At the end of each week do as much as you can for 1 set to see where you're at.
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I used to start my day off with push ups every morning. Right when you get up in the morning kick out 15-20 pushups. Every week into it, add 5 more. In 2-3 weeks you should be up to 30 no problem. At night you can try and do more in sets to build up your strength, but make sure you do them in the morning. You could also try and just get in 100 a day, no matter when you get a chance to do them, do them in sets of 10.
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Varying a little bit of your routine with dips might help as well.
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Varying a little bit of your routine with dips might help as well.
yeaaa i do weighted dips every other chest day
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kinda like pull ups, you just need to do more push ups. If that is the exercise you have to do then drop the heavy bench and start doing a metric **** ton of push ups. If i were you i would just start doing sets of push ups, switch your hand positioning around, etc. You should get to 29 push ups easily.
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thanks guys!!! appreciate the help a lot!!
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i was thinking the same thing.... i thought i had a weighted vest but weights in a book bag is def a cheaper alternative
That's a very dumb bit of advice that fella gave. If you want to do more pushups, train to do more pushups, not heavier pushups.

Most people get stuck at about 10, then 20, after that it tends to shoot up to 40-45.

I'd suggest doing pushups feet on the floor, hands on an elevated surface. If you have a means of lowering a surface gradually, like a stack of books or something, do so. Work it up to where you can do 35 easy, then lower it each day, doing just 35. If you had longer then I'd say do more sets, but you need to rest a bit just to make the short term goal.
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That's a very dumb bit of advice that fella gave. If you want to do more pushups, train to do more pushups, not heavier pushups.

Most people get stuck at about 10, then 20, after that it tends to shoot up to 40-45.

I'd suggest doing pushups feet on the floor, hands on an elevated surface. If you have a means of lowering a surface gradually, like a stack of books or something, do so. Work it up to where you can do 35 easy, then lower it each day, doing just 35. If you had longer then I'd say do more sets, but you need to rest a bit just to make the short term goal.
Interesting... You say to leave my feet on the floor and raise my hands, many articles I have read said to offer a tougher workout is to keep your hands on the floor and raise my legs... Since I'm looking to up the amount of reps on regular pushups, raising my hands and gradually lowering them closer to the floor is better?
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Interesting... You say to leave my feet on the floor and raise my hands, many articles I have read said to offer a tougher workout is to keep your hands on the floor and raise my legs... Since I'm looking to up the amount of reps on regular pushups, raising my hands and gradually lowering them closer to the floor is better?
Yeah interesting indeed. That would essentially make it an assisted push up as you're raising the arms. Since your arm is endurance, i think his rationale is to work with even higher reps so you get that burn.
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That's a very dumb bit of advice that fella gave. If you want to do more pushups, train to do more pushups, not heavier pushups.

Most people get stuck at about 10, then 20, after that it tends to shoot up to 40-45.

I'd suggest doing pushups feet on the floor, hands on an elevated surface. If you have a means of lowering a surface gradually, like a stack of books or something, do so. Work it up to where you can do 35 easy, then lower it each day, doing just 35. If you had longer then I'd say do more sets, but you need to rest a bit just to make the short term goal.
Yeah, after I struggled to do 30 for a while, I went up to 45.

What I did was just do a ton of 30 set pushups. I don't really have a lot of experience, but I'm gonna say just do as many pushups as you can. My before bed plan is brush my teeth, set up my clothes, wash face and put on toner, and then put on lotion, (floss usually also), so before everything I did, I did 30 push ups, which totals a pretty good amount. Try setting up a routine like that; it worked pretty well for me. Just do as many as you can, btw. Like I said, my max was only 30.
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I gotta do 29 pushups straight, 39 situps in a minute and run 1.5 miles in 12:29.

Im fighting asthma but the last few times i ran the 1.5 mile i was in the 11:40 range (up and down hills, not even flat track, I have to take the practice running on sunday!), and the situps i did 2 weeks ago and did 42 in a minute and I work em everyday so im not worried.

I can do 30 pushups straight, but like I said I have to REALLY push to get em and dont feel comfortable enough to take the test with the way ive been doing them.
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Just keep banging out push ups when you can. If you are really worried about the test, supplement a push up program into your workout rather than bench pressing. Do sets of flat push ups, feet raised, weights on your back, etc. If anything else though, just do the push ups you will have to do for the test and build up the endurance. When I am all doen with my chest workout or an at home push up routine, I like to do the push ups on my knees and do as many as possible for a sweet burn out.
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When I am all doen with my chest workout or an at home push up routine, I like to do the push ups on my knees and do as many as possible for a sweet burn out.
cool idea! today is my chest/tri day as a matter of fact so im gonan throw that into the mix
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That's a very dumb bit of advice that fella gave. If you want to do more pushups, train to do more pushups, not heavier pushups.

Most people get stuck at about 10, then 20, after that it tends to shoot up to 40-45.

I'd suggest doing pushups feet on the floor, hands on an elevated surface. If you have a means of lowering a surface gradually, like a stack of books or something, do so. Work it up to where you can do 35 easy, then lower it each day, doing just 35. If you had longer then I'd say do more sets, but you need to rest a bit just to make the short term goal.
Holy ****, I'm agreeing with Kalt..

Pushup and pushup variations, not weighted are your best bet.
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That's a very dumb bit of advice that fella gave. If you want to do more pushups, train to do more pushups, not heavier pushups.
I don't agree 100%. While yes, to do more push ups you must train to do more push ups. But you're not using 100% slow twitch muscle fibers. There is still a portion that uses fast twitch, which is normally overlooked when training for endurance.

Example. Endurance runners. Lets say 70% of the run they are utilizing their slow twitch muscle fibers. That 30% of fast twitch is still being worked but doesnt have much direct work. Many endurance runners incorporate little sprinting and weight lifting to increase their fast twitch response. Doing this, without hindering their endurance workouts, actually improved their long distance times.
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I would also suggest variations. Don't stick with just regular pushups, try finger-tip. Elevated, diamond, hands further apart than normal. Make your muscles respond to the change in effort required, then when you try normal again it seems easier.
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You can also raise your feet. Put them up on a chair so you are exerting more force from your own bodyweight.

You can also use the book method to put your arms up more so you can then go deeper down into the pushup for even more range of motion. I use a couple of hex dumbbells. They give me an extra 2inches of height.
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