Next Cycle. please critique

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 10:58 AM

I just finished recently a sustanon/tren/dbol cycle.
I am doing a bridge and plan on doing this:

Dbol 20mg ED
Test-Enanthate 500mg 1-4 then 750mg? (first time ever for me to use)

have decan and some tren also.
What would you recommend?

My goal is to pack on some more mass.
Stats are:
6'2-238
some fat on the stomach.

Thank you!!
PcE

marc_bennett30 · 04-23-2008, 11:02 AM

how many mgs of test did you run last cycle?

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 11:04 AM

i was doing sus eod at about 200mg, so about 600wk

marc_bennett30 · 04-23-2008, 11:06 AM

run the test-e week 1-the end at 750mg

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 11:07 AM

hmm ok
should i add any other gear? besides the dbol.

marc_bennett30 · 04-23-2008, 11:13 AM

you should know your limit.

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 11:21 AM

never used test-e before.
i wil prob add the deca.

Hugeward · 04-23-2008, 11:26 AM

I would suggest you continue using SUST. I just completed my 3rd cycle which was a 12 week TEST E cycle and didnt see great results. My first 2 cycles had SUST and i had great gains. I had ok gains from TEST E but nothing great. I had the side affects so it was legit. In week 10 I added some SUST that i had left over and started to see great results again but only for 2 weeks.

My next cycle is definitely going to be SUST for test.

drolfreak · 04-23-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugeward

I would suggest you continue using SUST. I just completed my 3rd cycle which was a 12 week TEST E cycle and didnt see great results. My first 2 cycles had SUST and i had great gains. I had ok gains from TEST E but nothing great. I had the side affects so it was legit. In week 10 I added some SUST that i had left over and started to see great results again but only for 2 weeks.

My next cycle is definitely going to be SUST for test.

I'm intriqued, test should have the same results regardless of ester. PM me more info on your results if you can (did you use the same dosage/source/diet etc)

OP, run the same test e dosage throughout, and your dbol dosage looks quite low, maybe consider upping it to 35/40mg. No need to add more compounds, but if your looking for out and out size deca should do the job nicely

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 02:07 PM

I have sopme good size already and I think my last cycle was not very good in obtaining more size. My dieat wasn't the best either.
I 'm hoping in changing the test, maybe I'll get a better result.
I like the idea of 750 weekly.
Whats the best way to break that out? every 3 days?

marc_bennett30 · 04-23-2008, 02:09 PM

eod if you dont mind or 2 times a week min.

drolfreak · 04-23-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hardcre99

Whats the best way to break that out? every 3 days?

twice a week is the standard with test e. so say 375mg monday morning, and 375mg thurs night. Basically you want 3.5 days (84 hours) between shots for the most stable levels

hardcre99 · 04-23-2008, 02:11 PM

Cool.
Thank you for that break down.

GorillaGenetics · 04-23-2008, 03:13 PM

i would do what everyone else pretty much said to and do the 750 throughout the cycle other than that you should put on alot of size with it bro good luck

marc_bennett30 · 04-23-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drolfreak

twice a week is the standard with test e. so say 375mg monday morning, and 375mg thurs night. Basically you want 3.5 days (84 hours) between shots for the most stable levels

eod will actualy give you more stable levels than twice a week

drolfreak · 04-24-2008, 04:15 AM

Strictly speaking your right (ED gives the most stable results with everything, but that doesnt mean its always a good idea), but EOD with test e takes a long time to peak, and your levels are fairly unstable at the start of the cycle as your injecting it so much quicker than your body can use it. If your planning to pin EOD then you'd be better off using test p.

PM me is you want to discuss this further, no need for us to hijack the thread

Rubin Carter · 04-24-2008, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcre99

I just finished recently a sustanon/tren/dbol cycle.
I am doing a bridge and plan on doing this:

Dbol 20mg ED
Test-Enanthate 500mg 1-4 then 750mg? (first time ever for me to use)

Sorry, i'm not sure i follow you, are you considering 750mg Test E as a bridge??

marc_bennett30 · 04-24-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubin Carter

Sorry, i'm not sure i follow you, are you considering 750mg Test E as a bridge??

I hope thats not what he ment

c_entw · 04-24-2008, 10:02 AM

Might I ask why you are bridging? Why not come off and run a proper PCT? Let your body recover and then hop back on.

hardcre99 · 04-24-2008, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubin Carter

Sorry, i'm not sure i follow you, are you considering 750mg Test E as a bridge??

Hi to answer your question NO, not a bridge on test. lol
Iwill be just using dbol , 5mg in the morning to piggy back off my morning natural test spike.

hardcre99 · 04-24-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c_entw

Might I ask why you are bridging? Why not come off and run a proper PCT? Let your body recover and then hop back on.

I normally do take the time off between cycles. Last time I took over 6 months off. Unfortunately I didnt get the results I wanted on the last cycle of Sus/Tren so I just want to keep this train going.

antidaephobe · 04-24-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugeward

I would suggest you continue using SUST. I just completed my 3rd cycle which was a 12 week TEST E cycle and didnt see great results. My first 2 cycles had SUST and i had great gains. I had ok gains from TEST E but nothing great. I had the side affects so it was legit. In week 10 I added some SUST that i had left over and started to see great results again but only for 2 weeks.

My next cycle is definitely going to be SUST for test.

Something probably wasnt right whether your training or diet was off, or maybe even your test was bunk because test is test all the ester does is dictate how long it takes to become active

hardcre99 · 04-24-2008, 02:30 PM

Most likely the diet and possibly the dosage was very light too.
The gear is always good.

Hugeward · 04-24-2008, 03:27 PM

diet was perfect, workout was perfect, sleeping was perfect. I'm very anal about them. nothing different in all 3 of my cycles except went from SUST to TEST E.

Hugeward · 05-01-2008, 08:23 AM

update... turns out it wasn't the sust. It was the sust on top of the 500mg of TEST E.

I removed the sust and increased TEST E to 1000mg for an extra 2 weeks after my cycle was supposed to end and i saw amazing results. Next cycle will be 1000mg of TEST E Mon/Thurs.

drolfreak · 05-01-2008, 10:58 AM

^^ I'm glad to hear you liked 1g of test so much, thats my next bulking cycle!