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    Question Taurus - "The Judge"

    Does anyone have it, shot it, have a review to offer? I like the idea of having the 45 and 410 in one revolver. Sounds like one hell of a good home defense gun... or at the least, something new and fun. I've seen a couple articles talking about it, but no real reviews of it.
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    i saw a video on youtube about it. it looked pretty cool. they advertised it as a car gun. to me that makes alot of sense. apparently the rifling makes the shot spread even faster. seems like a good way to deal with close confined situations (in a car)

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    Originally Posted by Mrs_Muscles View Post
    Does anyone have it, shot it, have a review to offer? I like the idea of having the 45 and 410 in one revolver. Sounds like one hell of a good home defense gun... or at the least, something new and fun. I've seen a couple articles talking about it, but no real reviews of it.
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    I hear some guys raving about it @ my gun shop. Then the ancient Vietnam vet dude behind the counter was like "Buy a shotgun and then a revolver before this..."

    After thinking about it I would agree; although I don't care for revolvers. My dad has 5 of them and swears by them.

    EDIT - If you have a quailty gun shop by you; go try it out and talk to the pros there. LEO's and gun bunny's tend to hang out @ mine so it a pretty accurate assement.
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    I have a couple good gun shops in the area and neither of them have it... I didn't ask about it though. Perhaps it's not cleared for sale in CA yet. Damn California handgun sales roster

    I've never owned a revolver, but this may prompt me to buy one. That thing just looks badas. Doesn't appear to have too much of a kick either. Then again, a 410 really doesn't, and I'm pretty well used to a 45.

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    Originally Posted by Mrs_Muscles View Post
    I have a couple good gun shops in the area and neither of them have it... I didn't ask about it though. Perhaps it's not cleared for sale in CA yet. Damn California handgun sales roster

    I've never owned a revolver, but this may prompt me to buy one. That thing just looks badas. Doesn't appear to have too much of a kick either. Then again, a 410 really doesn't, and I'm pretty well used to a 45.

    Thanks for the info.
    Wouldn't shock me a bit if it was on the blacklist of guns in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, if only So Cal had Alaska's gun laws and Wyoming's cost of living, it would be perfect.

    As far as the gun itself goes, I'm not a huge fan of the Taurus 1911s, they seem much lower quality to me than their competitors, not too sure about the Judge though. Do you know if they are also made in Brazil like the 1911s? Not saying Brazil-made is necessarily bad, Springfield 1911s are made there and are great guns. Just wondering...
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    Originally Posted by ThatGuy950 View Post
    Wouldn't shock me a bit if it was on the blacklist of guns in the People's Republic of Kalifornia, if only So Cal had Alaska's gun laws and Wyoming's cost of living, it would be perfect.

    As far as the gun itself goes, I'm not a huge fan of the Taurus 1911s, they seem much lower quality to me than their competitors, not too sure about the Judge though. Do you know if they are also made in Brazil like the 1911s? Not saying Brazil-made is necessarily bad, Springfield 1911s are made there and are great guns. Just wondering...
    I'm from Wyoming I'd be happy if CA had WY gun laws. All ranchers have a gun rack in their truck. You're different if you don't. lol Need some target practice? Just head for the country... doesn't work that way around here. Bleh. Stinkin CA.

    I'm not sure where the Judge is made... will have to check that out.
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    Originally Posted by Mrs_Muscles View Post
    I have a couple good gun shops in the area and neither of them have it... I didn't ask about it though. Perhaps it's not cleared for sale in CA yet. Damn California handgun sales roster

    I've never owned a revolver, but this may prompt me to buy one. That thing just looks badas. Doesn't appear to have too much of a kick either. Then again, a 410 really doesn't, and I'm pretty well used to a 45.

    Thanks for the info.
    I believe it shoots a 45 LC, not a 45 ACP - not that the LC kicks much either.

    I too, have been intrigued by it for a defense and/or camp gun. Cannot see any practical use for it beyond that however.
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    Originally Posted by Mrs_Muscles View Post
    Does anyone have it, shot it, have a review to offer? I like the idea of having the 45 and 410 in one revolver. Sounds like one hell of a good home defense gun... or at the least, something new and fun. I've seen a couple articles talking about it, but no real reviews of it.
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    This guy doesn't think the .410 would do the job but maybe you could hit him with the .410 then hit him with 45's
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot30_2.htm
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    Originally Posted by IdahoViking View Post
    I believe it shoots a 45 LC, not a 45 ACP - not that the LC kicks much either.

    I too, have been intrigued by it for a defense and/or camp gun. Cannot see any practical use for it beyond that however.
    Yeah, it does shoot the 45 LC. Beyond close quarters type defense, I wouldn't have a use for it. It certainly wouldn't be one for target practice.
    Originally Posted by colt.45 View Post
    This guy doesn't think the .410 would do the job but maybe you could hit him with the .410 then hit him with 45's
    http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot30_2.htm
    Yeah, that was my thought. In the dark aiming can be a bugger, but with 410 shot you'd at least stun them enough to slow them down... then take aim and nail em with the 45.
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    As far as the gun itself goes, I'm not a huge fan of the Taurus 1911s
    Taurus has ONE 1911 clone and it's called the Taurus PT1911.

    they seem much lower quality to me than their competitors
    If you read the various reviews (and by judging from your comments, you haven't) you'd find out that it's very well made and priced very affordably.

    Do you know if they are also made in Brazil like the 1911s?
    I'm thinking that it is, but so what if it is? Does that make it less?

    Not saying Brazil-made is necessarily bad, Springfield 1911s are made there and are great guns.
    So your arguement holds no water.

    Just wondering...
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    Originally Posted by John Hicks View Post
    Taurus has ONE 1911 clone and it's called the Taurus PT1911.



    If you read the various reviews (and by judging from your comments, you haven't) you'd find out that it's very well made and priced very affordably.



    I'm thinking that it is, but so what if it is? Does that make it less?



    So your arguement holds no water.



    Stop wondering and start researching, then you'd know for sure instead of babbling incorrect crap!
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    geez, what crawled up your ass? everyone else has managed to stay civil. come on man
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    Originally Posted by Mrs_Muscles View Post
    Sounds like one hell of a good home defense gun... or at the least, something new and fun. I've seen a couple articles talking about it, but no real reviews of it.
    IMO, it falls into the category of "badly named guns".

    You get one, and then shoot somebody with it, defending your life either in your home or somewhere else. The prosecution would have an absolute field day with the name:

    Them: Please tell the jury what you shot the defendant with?
    You: A gun made by Taurus
    Them: What's it called?
    You: It's called, "The Judge"
    Them: Oh, so you think you're a judge?
    You: I didn't and don't.
    Them: Did you think you were a judge when you shot my client?
    You: I was legally defending myself.
    Them: Sooooooooo... you were being a judge when you shot my client?
    You: Again, I was defending myself.
    Them: You were being THE JUDGE, right?
    You: What?!?
    Them: You know... judge, jury and executioner! You decided to take the law into your own hands and unlawfully execute my client through your reckless actions. Could you please tell the jury who made you judge, jury and executioner?

    See where this goes? And this exactly the type of crap that the prosecution would do if the person you shot lived or died, it doesn't matter to them.
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    Originally Posted by John Hicks View Post
    Taurus has ONE 1911 clone and it's called the Taurus PT1911.



    If you read the various reviews (and by judging from your comments, you haven't) you'd find out that it's very well made and priced very affordably.



    I'm thinking that it is, but so what if it is? Does that make it less?



    So your arguement holds no water.



    Stop wondering and start researching, then you'd know for sure instead of babbling incorrect crap!
    http://www.taurususa.com/products/gu....cfm?series=19
    Just one, huh?

    What's the matter, can't afford a Colt or Les Baer so you have to get all uppity becuae I don't like Taurus? I've shot them, they feel cheaper and less well-built fit and finish wise than other 1911-type pistols. I'm not doubting they're affordable, but for the same price (roughly) you can get a SA GI or Mil-Spec which IMO is a better gun. If you're basing everything on reviews, go shoot some first, but I'm guessing you own one and that's why you manstruated all over your keyboard.
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    Originally Posted by ThatGuy950 View Post
    looks like one model, 7 finish options to me. They are all 1911 in 45acp with SA and 8+1, with 5" bbl. I think I may buy one just to see what they're all about.

    if you guys are done with your pecker contest, we could get back to talking about the revolver. I like the idea of it and was thinking about getting it for a home defense option. (and some fun when camping) The idea of the shot is to make it easier to hit your target fast and repeatedly. It's not necessarily gonna knock an intruder off their feet, but if you get blasted with a shot, you'll know what hit ya and want no more.
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    I read a review of it somewhere. That guy loved this as a car-defense gun. When the low-life thug approaches your driver's side window, you grab The Judge and put 200+ pellets of birdshot in his face at point-blank.

    I don't advocate birdshot for home defense, but at a car-jacking distance, birdshot to the face would be absolutely debilitating.
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    Originally Posted by PickItUp View Post
    I read a review of it somewhere. That guy loved this as a car-defense gun. When the low-life thug approaches your driver's side window, you grab The Judge and put 200+ pellets of birdshot in his face at point-blank.

    I don't advocate birdshot for home defense, but at a car-jacking distance, birdshot to the face would be absolutely debilitating.
    OMG, you must be kidding! Yes, it would be, as you call it, "debilitating" but since it's not a defenseable round by any means and would be looked at as being crippling and not true self-defense... this is a sure ticket to a lawsuit and some serious prison time.

    If you don't advocate it for home defense, then why would you do so for a self-defense situation?

    Imagine this: you shoot somebody with it (in the face, like you said), they live (barely), you are charged and go to trial. They wheel in a blind man who was blinded by YOU, and you actually think that a jury is going to give you a big ol' slap on the back and say, "Well done!".

    I'm sorry I can't go on anymore. Ask Massad Ayoob what he would do, that's all I'm going to say.
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    Just one, huh?
    Just ONE model of different varieties.

    What's the matter, can't afford a Colt or Les Baer so you have to get all uppity becuae I don't like Taurus?
    No, shoot what you want. Just tell the truth about Taurus; if you hate them, then that's YOUR problem - it has nothing to do with the gun itself or who manufactures it.

    I've shot them, they feel cheaper and less well-built fit and finish wise than other 1911-type pistols.
    Then why didn't you state that before? You don't like them because they FEEL different, not because they are inherently substandard.

    I'm not doubting they're affordable, but for the same price (roughly) you can get a SA GI or Mil-Spec which IMO is a better gun.
    Can you? The PT1911 is a gun built with "match" characteristics at a stripped down price - NO ONE has ever done that before on a 1911-type gun!

    If you're basing everything on reviews, go shoot some first, but I'm guessing you own one...
    Wrong again, I don't own one now, but the way things are going - I just might. There is no other 1911 pistol produced by a major firearm manufacturer that retails MSRP at or about 500 bucks like the PT1911 and has all the bells, lights and whistles like the PT1911 does.

    Just because a gun sells for less than others doesn't automatically make it "cheap". OTOH, you can have an "expensive" gun that turns out to be pure crap, usually by some friggin' gunsmith who wants to make a name for himself by customizing a 1911 pistol his way.
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    Ide get a mil-spec before a taurus. Even if all things are equal, Springfield has better customer service.
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    but all things arent equal, the taurus pt1911 is better than the mil-spec and closer to match grade. i know springfield has great customer service, BUT they do not like to sell their parts. which will leave you without a gun when you send it in to get it serviced. taurus i hear has a decent customer service. you're not gonna need it much with a 1911 anyway, your local gunsmith should be able to do any job fairly easily.
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    Originally Posted by anthrofighter View Post
    taurus i hear has a decent customer service. you're not gonna need it much with a 1911 anyway, your local gunsmith should be able to do any job fairly easily.
    http://www.taurususa.com/main/repair-policy.cfm
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    Originally Posted by John Hicks View Post
    yea i know their policy but im talking about what people actually say about their service. ive heard only good things about springfield, ive heard mixed but mostly good reviews on taurus based on their previous handguns.
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