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    Question Lat pull down ( front & rear ) what is the difference? WINGS ?

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    i wanted to know what is the difference between these 2 movements ?? i mean it is the LATS working but is it the same movement but in different directions or doing rear pulldown emphasizes more than the front ?? and can i do both ??

    i heard that the rear movement emphasize the lats & the back of the shoulder and the front movement may take some stress away from the lats and shift it to the biceps ..

    i wanted to know which workout DIRECTLY emphasizes the (WING area) or upper back watever it is called ?? cause my wing area is not well devoloped .

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    you lookin to fly?



    do some barbell rows and chin ups, them wings will evolve i tell ya!
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    might wanna try Vgrip pulldowns to your chest, works great for me...
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    Originally Posted by Al Swearengen View Post
    you lookin to fly?



    do some barbell rows and chin ups, them wings will evolve i tell ya!
    Chin Ups??? You mean wide grip pullups?
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    i know this thread is old, but so no one complains about a new thread. Do you do lat pulldown to the front, or behind the neck or both? I hear behind the neck can be bad for shoulders.
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    Originally Posted by donmiller212 View Post
    i know this thread is old, but so no one complains about a new thread. Do you do lat pulldown to the front, or behind the neck or both? I hear behind the neck can be bad for shoulders.
    behind the neck is not only bad for your shoulders, but you just look like an idiot doing it.
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    i prefer not to bring the lat pulldown bar to my chest not behind my head...
    my shoulders dont like it and the ROM is somewhat limited
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    Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post
    behind the neck is not only bad for your shoulders, but you just look like an idiot doing it.
    the bad part is, i was approached the other day by some guy telling me he recommends doing it behind the neck. on a similar note, do you go to chest level or chin level?
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    Originally Posted by CLandry View Post
    I don't do pulldowns.
    deadlifts, rows, and pullups?
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    Originally Posted by firefox16 View Post
    i prefer not to bring the lat pulldown bar to my chest not behind my head...
    my shoulders dont like it and the ROM is somewhat limited
    did you mean to put that first not?
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    Originally Posted by donmiller212 View Post
    the bad part is, i was approached the other day by some guy telling me he recommends doing it behind the neck. on a similar note, do you go to chest level or chin level?
    depends on you're body's natural range of motion i suppose, for me i only end up going just below my chin, because i can't get the bar lower then that because my arms are parallel to my sides at that point. same thing with pullups, the only way for me to pull my chest up to the bar is to go underhanded.
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    Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post
    depends on you're body's natural range of motion i suppose, for me i only end up going just below my chin, because i can't get the bar lower then that because my arms are parallel to my sides at that point. same thing with pullups, the only way for me to pull my chest up to the bar is to go underhanded.
    so would you say go as low as comfortable? or chin level is sufficient?
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    Someone (A CSU Fresno Safety) told me that doing behind the head pulldowns will increase your bench strength. Broscience? or possibly valid? Any thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by bhanson92 View Post
    Someone (A CSU Fresno Safety) told me that doing behind the head pulldowns will increase your bench strength. Broscience? or possibly valid? Any thoughts?
    some people swear by behind the neck overhead press and pulldown. While it may have some benefits in terms of strength, i think the overall consensus is that it is really bad for your shoulders. prob broscience.
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    Originally Posted by donmiller212 View Post
    so would you say go as low as comfortable? or chin level is sufficient?
    below chin level it becomes more of a bicep/rear deltoids thing. regarding lats, the most important part of the movement is between a full stretch (arms fully extended) and the chin.
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    Originally Posted by yepimonfire View Post
    below chin level it becomes more of a bicep/rear deltoids thing. regarding lats, the most important part of the movement is between a full stretch (arms fully extended) and the chin.
    thanks for the info
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    Originally Posted by donmiller212 View Post
    i know this thread is old, but so no one complains about a new thread. Do you do lat pulldown to the front, or behind the neck or both? I hear behind the neck can be bad for shoulders.
    Behind the neck movements work wonders for some while causing issues for others. I'd suggest trying them out. If your shoulders don't agree with it, then don't f*cking do it. Many use BtN movements because they feel they get a stronger and/or more focused contraction no the target muscles while doing it.

    My guess is the people who swear by the movement do not feel that the exercise has wrecked their shoulders. Hence.... them still doing it and swearing by it.

    Every single person is not made to do every single exercise. The best way to find out how your body responds to an exercise is to try it out.
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    behind the neck is not only bad for your shoulders, but you just look like an idiot doing it.
    will you please, stop f*cking posting already??
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    Originally Posted by chazzy1864 View Post
    Behind the neck movements work wonders for some while causing issues for others. I'd suggest trying them out. If your shoulders don't agree with it, then don't f*cking do it. Many use BtN movements because they feel they get a stronger and/or more focused contraction no the target muscles while doing it.

    My guess is the people who swear by the movement do not feel that the exercise has wrecked their shoulders. Hence.... them still doing it and swearing by it.

    Every single person is not made to do every single exercise. The best way to find out how your body responds to an exercise is to try it out.
    Okay maybe i'll give it a try, starting with some lower weight.
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