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    Tdog gets it on with Propadrol/Hemadrol Stack

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    All Supplement Dosing

    1. Propadrol 30mg first thing in the morning before breakfast plus 1200 fish oil, 200mg caffeine, multi and 600mg SAMe
    2. Around 4 or 4:30 50mg Hemadrol, serving of whey for pre-workout (stopped taking creatine 2 weeks ago)
    3. Post workout whey, fat free milk, Glutamine, banana and one teaspoon of peanut butter and olive oil mixed up in blender
    4. Last meal of the day 30mg Propadrol, serving a protein mix, cottage cheese, 1200mg fish oil, multi and 200mg SAMe

    Workouts
    • Monday: Morning ABs and Evening Chest and Triceps very heavy
    • Tuesday: Morning Cardio, bike ride home from work and no workout in the evening
    • Wednesday: Morning ABs and Evening Legs
    • Thursday: Morning Cardio, bike ride home from work and Shoulders in teh evening
    • Friday: morning ABS, Bike ride home from work and no workout
    • Saturday: morning Back and Biceps
    I will be posting my lifting stats here, but in order to see my workouts in detail you will need to click on the following link. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=6642511

    Current Cutting Diet
    Figured I would post some examples on this, my calorie intake on workout days is around 3000 and cardio days it drops below 2200 and no workout days it is well below 2000 and no carbs



    Final Note: I will be doing my PRs this evening, starting picture, body stats and sizes

    PCT Will be nothing, but a normal OTC combo
    • Novedex XT week one 6 a day and lowing to one
    • Beast SuperTest at normal dosing towards the end of the Novedex XT
    • may also through in No Explode or try Superpump 250 for the first time
    Now if iForce can kick it in high and get their new PCT product on the market I will be using it.
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    Nice setup you got here, good luck w/ this stack.
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    looks good, i'm very interested in this combo.
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    Looking forward to watching this one. Good luck.
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    Day One

    Monday, April 21 Chest and Triceps
    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:

    Well strength was through the wall they must have kicked in right away JOKEING Nothing to report as far as the Hem and Prop goes, the first day I did not expect any real strength increases or any results at all.
    Diet
    My diet pretty much mirrored last Mondays diet, nothing fancy just stuck to the exact same thing, so I did not have to redo the macros and plan the meal out.


    Workout

    Flat Bench
    • 225/12
    • 275/8
    • 275/5
      unload
    • 225/8
    • 135/10

    Close Grip Bench
    • 135/10
    • 155/10
    • 175/10

    Decline DB Press
    • 75/10
    • 80/10
    • 85/8


    Incline flys
    • 45/10
    • 45/10
    • 45/10
    Dumbbell kick backs
    • 25/10
    • 30/10
    • 35/10
    Summary:
    Did not get my PRs done yesterday my workout partner did not show to spot me, ?I lift in my basement and my 4 year old and my 115 pound wife have a little trouble spotting anything over 300 for me

    Anyway this is a picture of my non show partner
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    good luck w/ stack man.

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    DAY 2
    Tuesday, April 22, 2008


    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:

    Nothing new to report, do not feel any different today then I did yesterday. Tomorrow is leg day and I am hoping to get a little kick out of the prop
    Well a little bit of Old School cardio today, little over 4 half hours worth LOL
    • removed top soil on a 6 by 12 area of land
    • hulled it off to another spot
    • spaded the ground
    • Plowed the ground with a tiller
    Final notes: The old timers were hard core, this is my first attempt at gardening sense I have my own land this year. I figured with gas prices and produce going up and up it would not hurt to save by planting one. I just never realized how much work it was and I am no where done yet.


    Diet:

    Diet was on the money today around 1500, mostly protein and carbs from veggies



    O YA I Forgot about my cardio at lunch, I ran as fast as I could after the UPS truck, WOULDN'T YOU



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    Omg.. lucky look at all that food you get to eat! lol..
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    Originally Posted by tdog69 View Post
    i wish the UPS female workers looked like that
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    Nice log, lots of detail!
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    Originally Posted by Dedicatedforlif View Post
    Where the hell did you find a hot UPS girl?
    ???? I thought she was sent by EST to deliver the goods.
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    Day 3


    Tuesday, April 23, 2008
    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:

    No noticeable difference in the gym, but I do feel good overall more so than usual and even after an hour workout on legs I still had the energy to go on another MT bike ride. Tomorrow, ?guess it would be today sense I am a day behind on posting?, is a high carb day and shoulder workout. I think the two should start to kick in just as far as energy and pumps in the gym, we will see this evening. Also right below my shoulders my back is killing me, but this is from going the extra mile and killing myself with stiff leg deads.


    Diet for the day
    Diet was a little screwed up, I believe my calories in was not enough compared to the calories I burned yesterday, then again I am on a cut, but still I think it was too low. That's what I get for not doing my macros the day before and then trying to wing it the day of my meals.


    Recipe for the CrawFish dish can be found here http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...6642511&page=3


    Workout

    Squats
    • 225/20 Warmup
    • 305/10
    • 355/10
    • 405/6
    Stiff leg Dead lifts
    • 135/10 no rest
    • 205/10 no rest
    • 225/10 no rest
    • 250/6

    Rocking Calve raise
    • 135/30 no rest
    • 205/20 no rest
    • 225/12 muscle failure
    Cardio

    5 mile MT bike ride home from work, I took the long way around today to get home and left the bike in the lowest gear the majority of the way, man did that hurt

    After my workout in the evening around 7:30 some friends from work called and they purchased bikes and wanted to go for a ride. So I figured what the hell I was still able to walk, so it would not hurt. It ended up being 5 of us me being the only one that has rode this year or sense they were in high school Two dudes from work and wife went, and of course my usual riding partner was there here is a pic of my normal solo riding partner



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    I'd probably go riding if that was my riding partner, keep up the good work.
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    Day 4
    Tuesday, April 24, 2008
    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:

    Nothing new to report on the supplements

    No workout yesterday, I went fishing instead. I will be incorporating my shoulder workout into my back and bicep workout on Saturday or may do it later today. Will post today's information regardless later this evening.

    Diet yesterday was on the money no cheating, "well I did have a MTDew at lunch dam it was good too", and around 2700 Cals. Once again doing the math I am still burning more then I consume, so I should be good at the cut.


    PS, went trout fishing yesterday and caught a 19" rainbow weighing in at 2.5 pounds fat fish.
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    Originally Posted by jcrue11 View Post
    I'd probably go riding if that was my riding partner, keep up the good work.

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    Day 5
    Friday, April 25, 2008
    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:
    I noticed a really hard pump almost to the point where it was painful after my workout. Strength is about the same as it was before, other then that nothing new to report.
    Diet:
    The diet pretty much follows last Friday's diet and I am planning to leave it where it is at, I am still loosing weight at a very slow pace which is good and I have not lost no strength. I am down from 215 to 204 with no mass loss just strictly fat, 4 more pounds and it is time to reward myself with a new pair of trail running shoes.
    Friday's Workout Shoulders

    Behind the Neck Standing BB Press
    • 135/10
    • 145/9
    • 155/6
    • 165/4

    DB Arnold Press
    • 45/10
    • 50/10
    • 55/8
    • 60/7

    3 sets of 25lb weighted decline setups

    Front DB Raises
    • 20/10
    • 25/10
    • 25/10

    Incline Lateral Raises
    • 20/10
    • 20/9
    • 20/6

    Handing leg raises for ABs, 4 sets of 10 reps
    Summary:
    Over all workout was pretty intense even though I did not feel like lifting, little bit of a stomach floor or food poisoning from eating some kind of dip at a birthday party at work. My shoulders were really pumped and it is now Monday and my bursitis in my right should is killing me, but I will just ignore it and drive forward, "did not want the down time for surgery to widen the space to releave the bursitis".
    Saturday
    Nothing to report, relaxed

    Saturday
    Nothing to report, went trout fishing and did a lot of hiking and hopping over rocks, "boulders".
    This evening is Chest, I am hoping to see some changes in strength and I am curious if the pump is more than it was on my shoulders on Friday. Today's diet is a little off, because I had to grab something real quick this morning when I got called in for a network outage at 5AM
    Side note:I am thinking about doing a new sport this year and with gas pricing soaring, some broken bones from past injuries I need something little safer then racing ATVs, I am thinking about doing this to get my fix for speed this year.



    Or really this could be my main reason for wanting to get into Mountain bike racing





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    Week Two


    Day 8
    Monday, April 28, 2008
    Second Week
    Hemadrol/Propadrol Summary:
    Still nothing new as far as strength gains, mood change, noticeable difference in the mirror, the only thing I feel is a really good pump. HB or Pete, when does this stack start to kick in or should I just wait till the end of the second week and make adjustments to the doses if I still have no response from the current doses 60mg prop and 50 Hem a day. Also I will be taking some updated pics this evening and comparing them to pics from March 31. I will also be re-evaluating my current diet, I am still losing weight and retaining my strength and muscle mass and this may be why I am not seeing any strength gains, the stack may just be assisting me in retaining muscle while below the amount of cals burned in the day.
    Diet:
    The diet pretty much follows last Monday's diet and I am planning to leave it where it is at, I am still losing weight at a very slow pace which is good and I have not lost no strength.

    Monday's Workout Chest and Triceps

    Flat Bench Press
    • 135/20 Warm-up
    • 10/225
    • 6/245
    • 4/275
    • 2/300

    Incline BB press, "slow, focus on form and full stretch"
    • 115/10
    • 135/10
    • 155/10

    BB Skull Crushers
    • 65/10
    • 75/10
    • 85/8

    Tricep Extensions
    • 35/10
    • 40/10
    • 45/10
    • 50/10
    DB Flys
    • 45/8
    • 45/6
    • 45/6

    Summary:
    Chest workout was a little painful in the right shoulder from the bursitis, so I could not go as heavy as I wanted to on the flat bench. Other then that I say it was a really intense chest workout, nice pump and strength is still up where it should be despite the low cal diet.
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    Nice log you got going here tdog,i was using prop at 90mg per day for the first 2 weeks and didnt notice anything,i bumped to 120 about a week ago and now im seeing a nice change in the mirror,ive gone from 195/196 to 193.5but looking a lot bigger,im looking forward to the next 2 weeks so my advice would be "bump it up"

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    lookin strong in here dude, good stuff. can't wait to see what happens once it kicks in.
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    Originally Posted by englanddog28 View Post
    Nice log you got going here tdog,i was using prop at 90mg per day for the first 2 weeks and didnt notice anything,i bumped to 120 about a week ago and now im seeing a nice change in the mirror,ive gone from 195/196 to 193.5but looking a lot bigger,im looking forward to the next 2 weeks so my advice would be "bump it up"

    good luck with the log dude.
    I am now on week two, so I think I am going to bump it up to 90 and then see if this week brings some strength increases. The Hemadrol should not deliver anything noticable other then some nice slow steady lean mass gains, so I will leave it at 50mg a day.

    Originally Posted by nrk5014 View Post
    lookin strong in here dude, good stuff. can't wait to see what happens once it kicks in.
    Me too, specially sense my caleries are now dropping pretty low, this is normally the point where I begin to loose a little strength and mass. I am hoping that this stack helps retain every single bit of the muscle mass in my cut. "that would be real nice"

    Thanks for stopping by guys I will try to keep it entertaining and as much detail as possible. O and I will be adding a Natty test booster on Cardio days, for today my choose for the Natty Test booster has been posted at the end of the thread.




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    Originally Posted by WannaGetLean View Post
    WTF is going on in here?!!?.. Pilllow fights.. ppaahhleeasee haha..
    see it worked, it got your attention
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    Originally Posted by Dedicatedforlif View Post
    Are you going to stick to this dosage or up it at one point?

    upped it today Pete, I started with 60 of prop for the first week and now I am on 90 day of Prop.

    do you have any recommedation on dosages?
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    Nothing new to report today, I missed my leg workout and will do it tomorrow


    I ended up going on a 10.5 mile MT bike ride through mud and up some killer hills. It is amazing how some muscle do not get hit when working out, but I will tell you this I am sore as shat and pushed extemely hard and did not back down on any hills.
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    Originally Posted by tdog69 View Post
    Nothing new to report today, I missed my leg workout and will do it tomorrow


    I ended up going on a 10.5 mile MT bike ride through mud and up some killer hills. It is amazing how some muscle do not get hit when working out, but I will tell you this I am sore as shat and pushed extemely hard and did not back down on any hills.
    Is this Lance Armstrongs log?!... did i click the wrong link??..

    Wow I haven't ridden a mountain bike in awhile.. hmm might have to go do that sometime....
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    Originally Posted by WannaGetLean View Post
    Is this Lance Armstrongs log?!... did i click the wrong link??..

    Wow I haven't ridden a mountain bike in awhile.. hmm might have to go do that sometime....
    Na Lance would have done 50 miles and then ran for another 50 LOL

    great cardio, I just can't get myself to run or jog unless something is chasing me
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