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01-12-2009, 08:20 PM #1651
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"Some people are like Slinkies. They're not really good for anything but they sure bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs."
My Training Journal - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=145043261
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01-12-2009, 08:42 PM #1652
I guess I wasn't clear; what I meant to say was to go ahead and run; it'll be good for your sore legs, just start out at a real slow pace, and then gradually build your speed to whatever you can handle. It will really help alleviate DOMS, getting the blood in there. I am not a believer in laying on sore muscles; you don't want to weight-train them, but you need to use them, in some fashion; it speeds recovery. On the rare occasion when I have heavy leg DOMS, I'll walk my usual 30 minutes, then do 2-3 sets of squats, with just the bar, or maybe 135. Always helps.
Yes..tomorrow is day one with resistance and supinationNo brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-13-2009, 05:15 AM #1653
- Join Date: Apr 2007
- Location: Mentor, Ohio, United States
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Congrats...that's some good hard work.
It would be tough. You just repped a ton of weight on the LP. Effort = progress. Nice work.
Looking forward to how the turn out for you.
Good balanced leg work. Nice leg session Bill.
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01-13-2009, 06:04 AM #1654
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01-13-2009, 06:09 AM #1655
This was in the PL forum last night and i thought you would like to read it.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=106416741
Pretty much gives a scientific basis what you do!Happily married father of four and grandfather of two and one on the way. Edit: Grandfather of 3 as of 02/28/2009.
http://workout.bodybuilding.com/MtnBikeMike/
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=113013061
"Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end!" Texas A&M University.
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01-13-2009, 06:57 AM #1656
Thanks, Kevin. I've been on the high-rep leg press quest for 3 months now; I hit my 25, and I'm going to move on. I'll probably go back to a squat-based leg routine; I'll decide by next Monday. I know one thing for sure-there isn't going to be a 25 rep anything in the routine, at least for a while!
Good deal.I expect it will go well.
That's a great link, Mike; excellent explanation. Thanks!
Everyone who weight trains, whether they know it or not, periodizes. They can either schedule it, or let their body "schedule" it for them. If the body does the scheduling, it seldom turns out well.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-13-2009, 07:36 AM #1657
- Join Date: Sep 2007
- Location: New Hampshire, United States
- Age: 57
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- Rep Power: 7009
Outstanding work on the 650x25 Bill! Who says you can't keep breaking your own PRs and gaining later in life?
"Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum"
I made my mind up 15 years ago, that I was going to burn-out, instead of rust-out. I expect my last day on earth will probably be either leg or back day, in the gym, and that's okay with me. - Ironwill2008
I have a NEW journal!?!
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=269153861&posted=1#post269153861
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01-13-2009, 08:35 AM #1658
- Join Date: Oct 2006
- Location: Kentucky, United States
- Age: 59
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Great leg day. How you can do that much leg press and then do anything, I'll nev... well, maybe I will just be able to figure it out and EVEN do it one day. Thanks for the motivation.
BTW, I hate it when my leg day is the day after yours. I think I need to change my schedule.My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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01-13-2009, 08:53 AM #1659
Thank you Joe. Just between you, me, and a million members of this site, I'm happy I hit the 25, and can now move on to something else!
Thanks, storm. It simply comes from consistent training. I've been pounding my legs (along with everything else, of course) once a week, for 16 years now, steady. You just add a little weight here, a rep there, and after all that time, it adds up. I refuse to quit on a leg exercise; I'd rather grind myself into dust than let a leg move beat me. And I don't recall ever having trouble getting psyched-up to train my legs, ever. I've had more problems with arm workouts than legs. It's just the way I'm wired, I guess; go figure.
One thing, though; after this length of time, it is difficult to continually push the numbers. Sometimes improvement comes in other ways.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-13-2009, 09:45 AM #1660
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01-13-2009, 11:47 AM #1661
- Join Date: Nov 2008
- Location: Colorado, United States
- Age: 54
- Posts: 1,272
- Rep Power: 1310
My legs are just aching period! Bill never ceases to amaze me with his workouts.
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01-13-2009, 12:02 PM #1662
Thanks very much, Tiffany! The last LP set was a nod to my ecto low-rep mentality. Chicken legs practically insist on staying skinny; you have to give them a really good reason to get bigger.
Thanks, 'hammer. The big payoff, besides having some decent quads, is the feeling of accomplishment after a leg session. That may be the biggest reason why I keep at this. Of course, I don't always better my previous session, but when I do, it's a great feeling.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-14-2009, 12:47 AM #1663
- Join Date: Nov 2007
- Location: Oregon, United States
- Posts: 6,508
- Rep Power: 7341
Hi Bill, it is truly interesting to see the performance of your wo's. I now see the deload factor...
Send a friend to invite on ********--> Marty Tolmich/Personal Trainer
My video are at https://www.********.com/pages/Action-Fitness-LLC/219746674743053
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01-14-2009, 05:39 AM #1664
I almost crapped ma pantz!! What were you on, meth?? LOL
That is downright amazing Will, and like Tiff said, you went up in weigh the next set.
How's the DOMS today buddy?
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01-14-2009, 06:57 AM #1665
Hello, BB! While I can't always push my numbers after deloading for a week, I almost always have a fresh mental attitude to put out the effort. I can remember only a few times in 16 years that I felt burned-out from training, and I got past them quickly.
ROFL! Getting past that one leg press set was good for me, mentally. I need to challenge myself, just to know I'm still in the game.
That is downright amazing Will, and like Tiff said, you went up in weigh the next set.
How's the DOMS today buddy?
How's your nutrition plan working for you?No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-14-2009, 07:02 AM #1666
Wanna eat some of my egg whites, I got enough. 23 per meal.
-that's what i think of my plan
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01-14-2009, 07:31 AM #1667
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- Location: South Carolina, United States
- Age: 62
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Morning Bill! Happy Wednesday!
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7
GOOOOO COCKS!!!!!! GOOOOO STEELERS!!!!!
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01-14-2009, 08:03 AM #1668
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- Location: Kentucky, United States
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Good morning Bill.
What's on tap today? I have another light chest/shoulder day in store. Hoping my left shoulder doesn't have any pain.My current log
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=158720023&p=1173746753&posted=1#post1173746753
A step backwards is better than a setback.
If this (insert whatever trivial thing that is upsetting me) is the worst thing to happen today, I'm going to have a great day.
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01-14-2009, 09:26 AM #1669
23 per meal? You're gonna sprout feathers!
Good morning, Sunshine!
Good morning, storm! The same, but different for me; heavy shoulders, light chest. I'm getting caught-up here, then it's down to the gym.
Easy on the shoulder, storm.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-14-2009, 09:39 AM #1670
- Join Date: Feb 2007
- Location: Georgia, United States
- Age: 52
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Have a great workout Bill.
Genshai
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01-14-2009, 10:26 AM #1671No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-14-2009, 02:08 PM #1672
Ironwill2008
I took Tiffany's advice, and had a great workout. After a slow start at the beginning of Sunday's session, things have been clicking all week. Thanks to all of you who have helped my motivation. Today's training was:
Shoulders/ Chest Maintainance
Smith Machine Seated Press
95x8 W/U
105x6 W/U
135x12
140x8
145x7
150x4
1-Arm Lateral Raise
45x6
40x9
40x8
Face Pulls
90x16 PWO
95x14
95x12
Hulks
30x8 "finisher" feels like a "mass builder!"
30x7
30x7
Barbell Shrug
335x6
335x7
335x7
Smith Machine Flat Press
185x6 W/U
225x7
Smith Machine Incline Press
205x7
Dumbbell Flye
65x11
Completed this session in 70 minutes; my shoulders are totally fatigued. I worked hard at everything today, but especially on the lateral raises; I took them to the wall. They're my best bet for a bit of width, and along with the Smith presses, I'm going to get some.
By the time I got to my "finisher", the Hulks, I was finished. I could barely get the 'bells over my head. Good deal; muscle fatigue is where it's at.
I'm losing a bit of strength in my chest, as indicated by a slight drop in reps, except for the set of flyes, but that's okay for now. Chest still looks good, and I'll continue to let it play second fiddle to shoulders until I feel shoulders have responded. I'm thinking they look slightly better, but I'll reserve judgement for a month from now, or so.
I'm looking down the road to Friday; back day. I'm going to blast me some heavy chins; rows, too.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-14-2009, 02:18 PM #1673
Just keep hammering away Bill, I gotta believe you'll see a difference with that kind of intensity. Great job.
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01-14-2009, 02:23 PM #1674
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good solid workout again Bill.
ANy thoughts on how long you plan to do shoulders before chest?
Any thoughts to separate days for those parts?"Some people are like Slinkies. They're not really good for anything but they sure bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs."
My Training Journal - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=145043261
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01-14-2009, 03:55 PM #1675
- Join Date: Feb 2002
- Location: South Carolina, United States
- Age: 62
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Very nice job! What are hulks?
"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7
GOOOOO COCKS!!!!!! GOOOOO STEELERS!!!!!
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01-14-2009, 08:40 PM #1676
Thank you, Jason; I sure will. To me, my shoulders really need the most attention of the three bodyparts I'm working on improving, followed by calves and bi's. All three will improve.
Thanks, Rich. I'm going to go another month as things are; by then, I'll probably need to get back to training my chest hard.
Any thoughts to separate days for those parts?
Thanks, Diane; it was a good session!
Hulks are a "complex" that Carl was kind enough to share with us. Here's his demo, that I pinched off his journal.
He describes them as , "A lateral raise with a press at the end." He suggested them as a "finisher" for my shoulders, since I've targeted them as a weak bodypart in need of improvement. If you do them at the end of your shoulder routine, whatever fibers you've left untapped, these will kill 'em.Last edited by ironwill2008; 01-14-2009 at 08:46 PM.
No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-15-2009, 06:01 AM #1677
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01-15-2009, 06:49 AM #1678
Thanks, Kevin. By grabbing something solid with your non-working hand, and then leaning out towards your working hand/arm, you reduce trap involvement, and can also use a good bit more weight than doing laterals conventionally, with both arms at once. I like to do them really heavy; I'll power-up the heviest dumbbell I can get 6-8 reps with, after my shoulders are well-warmed up. They're a good variant.
thanks for the reminder...I may toss these in tonight.No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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01-15-2009, 07:53 AM #1679
- Join Date: Feb 2002
- Location: South Carolina, United States
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Oh -- cool -- thanks! I like watching videos of Carl because I've met him and, not only is he sweet, he's sexy! I did try to focus on the movement while watching that video.
That's a pretty neat exercise. I'll try to remember them for next week's shoulders as a finisher. I'd surely have to do those light. I'll try them seated and see how long it takes for a trainer to come up and ask me what the Hell am I doing?
Happy Thursday Bill!"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7
GOOOOO COCKS!!!!!! GOOOOO STEELERS!!!!!
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01-15-2009, 08:01 AM #1680
I like Carl's vids too, but not quite for the same reason as you!
That's a pretty neat exercise. I'll try to remember them for next week's shoulders as a finisher. I'd surely have to do those light. I'll try them seated and see how long it takes for a trainer to come up and ask me what the Hell am I doing?
Happy Thursday Bill!No brain, no gain.
"The fitness and nutrition world is a breeding ground for obsessive-compulsive behavior. The irony is that many of the things people worry about have no impact on results either way, and therefore aren't worth an ounce of concern."--Alan Aragon
Where the mind goes, the body follows.
Ironwill Gym:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=629719403&postcount=3388
Ironwill2008 Journal:
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=157459343&p=1145168733
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