Chest and Tri's together, or bi's and tri's?

[hotsauce3333]

I have done both chest and tri's together, and an arms day. Sometimes when I do chest and tri's together, my tri's are torched by the time i'm done with chest. I like doing bi's and tri's together, cuz you get a total arm pump, and they are nice and fresh so you can get a lot out of them. what have you guys found to work best?

[The_Real_Hulk]

as far as I am concerned you should do tris and bis together no matter what. you can rotate and get them knocked out faster that way. Whether you want to put them on you're chest day is up to you. I used to and would feel incredible growth when I did it that way. Because all the blood is pumping around you're chest it feels good to do arms after.

However, I have a heavy work load right now so I am doing arms on the same day as my legs. Its working just fine. I prefer the pump I feel on chest days but my arms are just as strong.

Besides why are you worrying about bis and tris? Those are so unimportant, more so the bis than the tris. But really, go power clean or something haha. Just jokin, but really.

[tms.1978]

chest/shoulders/tri's for me. it doesn't matter that they are already tired when you get to isolate them because its the total workload that counts. hitting them when you do chest, then an isolation day as well and a separate shoulder day is 3x per week minimum. just too, when will they recover?

[STL_Lift]

I do chest/tris and back/bis for 4-5 weeks, then switch to dedicate a day to tris/bi's for 4 weeks, and repeat. I think you benefit from both, so I switch it up.

[Gaskicker]

Originally Posted by STL_Lift

I do chest/tris and back/bis for 4-5 weeks, then switch to dedicate a day to tris/bi's for 4 weeks, and repeat. I think you benefit from both, so I switch it up.

Good advice IMO. Although I do feel its good to work muscles by their function vs working them by bodypart.

[GApump]

I actually alternate between doing chest/bi, back/tri, and the standard chest/tri, back/bi. I like it b/c I get to hit my arms twice a week, once directly and once indirectly. You just have to space your workouts correctly during the week to make sure you have recovery time.

[ksheab]

i usually follow a split for about 8 weeks, take 1 week off or do very light maintainence, then, do another 8 weeks following a different routine.

personally, i think its mentally/physically refreshing to change things up regularly.

plus, theres the benefit of actually seeing your improvements when u return to a split u used previously.

use whatever splits u like and just mix em up now and then...

[hotsauce3333]

yeah, sounds good guys

[Aecannon1]

Try a good rotational combination of Back and Tri's, Chest and Bi's. You'll be surprised at the growth...

Thing is, when you do chest you obviously tire out the Tricep...not to the point of growth but almost pre-exhaustion. Then you hit tri's after your chest is done...and you don't have THAT much strength/energy to hit them VERY hard.

Same deal with Back and Bi's...you use your bi's when you do your back....these combo's are good in theory, but practically....not the best for building muscle and strength.

By performing Chest and Bi's, you're starting on your bi's as a fresh muscle group, not one that's been pre-exhausted. This effectively enables you to hit the muscle group as HARD as you possibly can.

Good luck matey

[henmaniac87]

I like to train bis and tris on the same day, the total arm pump is amazing, its helped me get some guns. Then my arms get some extra work when doing chest and back, just make sure you give your arms a couple days to rest before hitting chest or back.

[frankgpass]

Originally Posted by Aecannon1

Try a good rotational combination of Back and Tri's, Chest and Bi's. You'll be surprised at the growth...

Thing is, when you do chest you obviously tire out the Tricep...not to the point of growth but almost pre-exhaustion. Then you hit tri's after your chest is done...and you don't have THAT much strength/energy to hit them VERY hard.

Same deal with Back and Bi's...you use your bi's when you do your back....these combo's are good in theory, but practically....not the best for building muscle and strength.

By performing Chest and Bi's, you're starting on your bi's as a fresh muscle group, not one that's been pre-exhausted. This effectively enables you to hit the muscle group as HARD as you possibly can.

Good luck matey

Couldn't agree more...I usually do that work out of Chest and Bi's Back and Tri's and my arms have grown immensely...now if I can only get my chest to do the same!

[cell-tech-ABUSE]

Chest+Tri's guy here. I used to do an arms day, but I switched up to Chest/Triceps/Traps and my triceps got a lot more mass than before- not overworking them really helps.

[otongki]

Originally Posted by hotsauce3333

I have done both chest and tri's together, and an arms day. Sometimes when I do chest and tri's together, my tri's are torched by the time i'm done with chest. I like doing bi's and tri's together, cuz you get a total arm pump, and they are nice and fresh so you can get a lot out of them. what have you guys found to work best?

Whenever you do chest, you will always do your shoulders. Same thing with training back, your biceps and forearm will also take place. So, why not toast those muscles at the same day (monday: back, biceps, forearms; tuesday: chest, shoulders; etc)

I'd say starts with bigger muscle group (e.g. chest and back), the progress to smaller muscle group.

There are some ways to hit the exact muscle without lots of other muscle plays in role. For example use neck press as training chest than bench press. This isolates your pec without using much of your tri's and shoulder (check gironda's neck press). Also by pulling with your back muscle whenever you do back exercise. This release the tension from your biceps and forearms.

You might want to check DoggCrapp training, they have split which put chest, shoulder, and triceps with back, biceps, and forearms apart without losing any strength. It's a powerbuilding method of lifting.

[tomdip5]

for me, chest gets its own day, respectively. i then rotate with back/bi's and shoulder/tri's. or back/legs and bi's/tri's. or then shoulders/legs or shoulders/tri's.

i try to mix it up a lot, but chest is by itself, with abs in between sets if i get bored.

[Dr Clay]

While both ways are fine, I feel the same as you and prefer to do bi's and tri's together.

[BRC1989]

I have been doing chest and back on their own days, and then bi's and tri's on one day, and this week I just changed to chest/tri's back/bi's and I definently felt a lot weaker hitting tri's after chest and bi's after back. I think It's almost better to do chest and back early in the week where bi's and tri's are hit indirectly, then bi's and tri's at the end of the week hittin them directly.

[Tyrbolift]

Now here's a slight change from the traditional 2 alternatives.

I do chest/tri's/bi's on the same day.
Legs
Back/shoulders

and an arm day every few weeks.

[dazsmith69]

ive just gone from bi's/tri's day to chest/tri's and back/bi's and the changed has made a great difference, the pump you get in your forearm and bicep from a back workout then isolation afterwards is great, ive put half an inch on my arms and ive been doing it a month now.

i was always against this routine (as i felt i wouldnt work my arms hard enough after a chest or back workout as they'd be exhausted), but decided to give it a try and really has made a difference

[frankgpass]

I kind of feel like it depends on what you want to get out of your work outs...Yes I loved the feeling/look of bi's/tri's on the same day...huge and pumped but I like the results better with my split on chest/bi's back/tris. I feel like its working them a litter harder each week

[Bender247365]

Whats up guys, I have done arms all kinds of differant ways, however the way that I found works best is to do chest and TRIs back and BIs, but since on chest day your TRIs should be pretty fried I only do 2 excersices for them and the same with BIs. Then on the fourth day I hammer BIs and TRIs.

In the end this is all hear say because we all know that everybody responds differently. So in the end do what hurts and is making you get massive.