Phera-Plex (Wet Gains) help

[Rstudler]

Im thinking about running a cycle of AE's Pher Plaex and read that it has Wet gains. Are there any other supplements that any of you know of that are rather close to the same as Pher-Plex results wisebut with dry gains? I would like to have a little less bulk in a cycle and more cut.

[cockdiesel101]

superdrol

[Rstudler]

What bout the Sides compared to PP

[Androgen]

side on sd tend to be more harsh than pp, with pretty bad shutdown and lethargy. I'd go with havoc/epi instead. Less sides, good gains and perhaps you could stack it with something (preferably non-methyl, maybe new 3-ad)

[Rstudler]

I took a cycle o havoc over a year ago and was very happy with the results and there was very little if no sides. But i had a friend that was running a cycle of PP and he deffinitly had more intense results. I know it coulda been that he did it more properly or it just reacted to his body better but Pher-Plex seems that it may produce better results. If im wong or you have more info let me know. and Also would a second cycle of havoc be as affective, more or less?

[Bloute]

Originally Posted by Rstudler

Im thinking about running a cycle of AE's Pher Plaex and read that it has Wet gains. Are there any other supplements that any of you know of that are rather close to the same as Pher-Plex results wisebut with dry gains? I would like to have a little less bulk in a cycle and more cut.

Why not an add an AI if you want dry bulking ?

[Androgen]

Originally Posted by Rstudler

I took a cycle o havoc over a year ago and was very happy with the results and there was very little if no sides. But i had a friend that was running a cycle of PP and he deffinitly had more intense results. I know it coulda been that he did it more properly or it just reacted to his body better but Pher-Plex seems that it may produce better results. If im wong or you have more info let me know. and Also would a second cycle of havoc be as affective, more or less?

PP is regarded as a stronger compound, higher on gains and sides in most cases. If you were to run havoc again gains may diminish but it really depends how long you leave in between the cycles. The longer you leave the better the results of you second cycle will be. Now you know how your body reacts to havoc you could always run havoc at higher doses if your worried about gains.

[Freakin_Rican]

I don't mind the wet gains especially since your not going to be taking this supp for to long, I've never tried the P-plex but you might want to consider the M-drol for dry gains.

[realitysfringe]

Just what IS a "wet gain"? If it's just water, then why not always go for "dry"gains? I'm confused by the terminology.

[J2jud]

I would go with P-Plex over Superdrol any day. The sides just dont equal the gains in most instances. If you're concerned with having "wet" gains, then stack it with an AI like Formestane. Remember to follow P-Plex with proper PCT.

[v4lu3s]

Please explain to me how pheraplex is "wet"?

it does not aromatize, has no estrogenic activity.

[J2jud]

Originally Posted by v4lu3s

Please explain to me how pheraplex is "wet"?

it does not aromatize, has no estrogenic activity.

I believe the same thing. As I've explained before, I think that some people have either ran Phera with something else and had wet gains, a sh!tty PCT, and or a bunk SERM in PCT which led to them to have gyno. There is a certain amount of water weight gained on every steroid and there should be.

[v4lu3s]

Originally Posted by J2jud

I believe the same thing. As I've explained before, I think that some people have either ran Phera with something else and had wet gains, a sh!tty PCT, and or a bunk SERM in PCT which led to them to have gyno. There is a certain amount of water weight gained on every steroid and there should be.

My experience shows no bloating with pheraplex, and Anabolics 2006 states it has no estrogen activity meaning no aromatization.
I lean more towards bad diet OR impure compounds.