M1T Log, first log

[loudenator]

M1T Log

So I have decided to do a two week cycle of Methyl-1-testosterone(from Andro-Tech), I know some of you refer M1T is garbage, rat poison, etc, and in any M1T log you always get the person asking/stating ?why would you ever use m1t, gear is so much safer and efficient.? Well i beg to differ, when taken with proper support supplements, strict diet, and proper training i believe it can be one of the best ways to increase LBM and strength, quickly and safely(anything over 20mg/ed or 3 weeks is overkill) Side effects tend to be harsh when exceeding the dosage or length of on-cycle.

This being my second time(first cycle of 2 weeks i gained/kept 6lbs after PCT) taking M1T, my goal is to gain 10lbs while keeping my BF % below 10%. My cycle is going to be short and sweet; 1 week pre-loading with support supplements, 2 weeks ?on cycle?, 3 week ?post cycle?. For the whole 6 week cycle i wont be taking any creatine, but starting my last week of PCT i will be taking the 21-Day Mass-System from NXCare.

The Cycle

Week 1 pre-loading

Mega Men Multis 2 capsules ED
B12 1000mcg
Omega Fish Oils 2 capsules ED
Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
NAC 1200mg ED
Hawthorne Berry Extract 600mg ED
Saw Palmetto 300mg ED

Weeks 2-3 ?on-cycle?

M1T 10mg ED
Mega Men Multis 2 capsules ED
B12 1000mcg
Omega Fish Oils 2 capsules ED
Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
NAC 1200mg ED
Hawthorne Berry Extract 600mg ED
Saw Palmetto 300mg ED

Weeks 4-6 ?post-cycle?

Nolva 40mg ED week 4 and 5 then 20mg ED week 6
6 OXO On week 5 start tapering;
500 mg x 3 days
400 mg x 4 days
300 mg x 5 days
200 mg x 6 days
Mega Men Multis 2 capsules ED
B12 1000mcg
Omega Fish Oils 2 capsules ED
Milk Thistle 1000mg ED
NAC 1200mg ED
Hawthorne Berry Extract 600mg ED
Saw Palmetto 300mg ED


The Diet

This is just a sample of what my diet will look like on any given day. I will be taking in at least 3000 calories a day, about 250 grams of protein, and somewhere around 80 grams of fat. I'll be eating every 2-3 hours.

Breakfast

3 whole eggs
3 egg whites
2 cups cooked oatmeal

Morning snack

8 oz low fat cottage cheese
1 cup sliced pine apple
6 whole-wheat crackers
1tbsp peanut butter

Lunch

4 oz turkey deli meat
1tbsp fat free mayonaise
2 slices whole-wheat bread

Preworkout

1 scoop whey protein in water
1 apple

Postworkout

2 scoops whey protein in water
1 medium sized bagel
2tbsp jelly

Dinner

8 oz top sirloin
1 large sweet potatoe
1 cup chopped broccoli
2 cups green salad
2tbsp dressing

Nighttime Snack

1 oz walnuts
1 scoop casein protein in water


The Workout

Much like my diet plan, this routine is just a guideline, i'm going to listen to my body so there is chance of variable change. One thing that is certain is for the first two weeks i'm aiming for 6-8 reps, weeks 3 and 4 8-10 reps and for weeks 5 and 6 10-15 reps. Each day i will do a 10 Minute cardio warm up, treadmill, bike, eliptical, heavy bag(intervals) or a mix. I will also stretch at the end of each workout. I wont be doing to much cardio.

Day 1: Chest, and Triceps, Abs
Day 2: Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Abs
Day 3: Rest Optional
Day 4: Delts, Traps, Abs
Day 5: Back, Bicep, Forearms, Abs
Day 6: Rest
Day 7: Rest or Cardio


Day 1, 3, 5 upper abs and lower back

Exercise Sets Reps

Crunch 4 25
Roman Chair 4 25
Back Extension 3 20

Day 2, 4, 6 lower abs and obliques

Exercise Sets Reps

Reverse Crunch 4 25
Hanging Leg Raise 3 30
Twisting Crunch 3 25

Chest

Exercise Sets Reps

Barbell Bench Press 4 6
Decline Bench Press 4 6
Incline Bench Press 4 6
Incline Dumbbell Flyes 3 6

Triceps

Exercise Sets Reps

Overhead Dumbbell Raise 3 6
Cable Pressdown 3 6
Close-Grip Bench Press 3 6


Quads, Hams, Calves

Exercise Sets Reps

Barbell Squat 4 6
Leg Press 3 6
Lunge 3 6
Leg Curl 3 6
Standing Calve Raises 4 10


Delts, Traps

Exercise Sets Reps

Seated Overhead Dumbbell Press 3 6
Wide-Grip Upright Row 3 6
Dumbbell Front Raise 3 6
Bent-Over Lateral Raise 3 6
Barbell Shrug 3 6
Dumbbell Shrug 3 6


Back

Exercise Sets Reps

Pull-Up 4 6
Bent-Over Row 4 6
Wide-Grip Row 3 6
Close-Grip Pulldown 3 6


Biceps, Forearms

Exercise Sets Reps

Barbell Curl 4 6
Preacher Curl 3 6
Dumbbell Curl 3 6
Reverse Barbell Forearm Curl 2 10
Dumbbell Forearm Curl 2 10


This is all for now, I start my preloading phase Monday April 14th, i will update then with full stats and pictures for before and after comparisons.

[ksheab]

good luck with the M1T, ill definitely b checking out your updates.

on a personal note, ill b doing a cycle later this year, but, itll definitely b at least 4wks long.
on my previous cycles i always started to really c the results right around week 4 and 5. every time.

but, like u stated, im not worried about any negative side effects due to my well-planned on cycle supps and pct.

the only suggestions id make right now would b to consider increasing your calories a bit, esp. if thats your normal amounts.

and dont forget to increase your workout intensity (wt and sets)

good luck

[loudenator]

Its good to have you on board ksheab!

Are you going to be logging your 4 week cycle?

It's still up in the air right now but im considering Muscle Juice(weight gainer) for the extra calories, one shake a day with my diet would boost me well over 4000, but my goal is to make gains without altering my BF% too much.

I will being increasing my intensity and hopefully increasing the load each workout.

[ksheab]

oh ya, ill definitely b doing a log. and since my pct will not include clomin or nova, hopefully, itll b another example (like Dman's) of how otc pct's can b all thats needed for recovery.

since its still quite a few months away at the earliest, itll give me enuf time to re-read all the previous m1t posts and info. one of which is whether efa's and vit e, etc. (estrogen-like) should b discontinued during cycle.

muscle juice looks good with a scoop being about 220 calories. and itll make it last longer.

[loudenator]

I'm just curious as to why you wouldn't include nolva or clomid in your pct, especially after a longer cycle than two weeks? Whats the purpose of discontinuing EFAs and vit e during cycle? I'm looking forward to seeing your log.

I have to go to the supplement store today to pick up a few things before i start tomorrow. Casein, Whey proteins and possibly muscle juice or another weight gainer depending on the price.

[-ShockWave-]

Originally Posted by ksheab

oh ya, ill definitely b doing a log. and since my pct will not include clomin or nova, hopefully, itll b another example (like Dman's) of how otc pct's can b all thats needed for recovery.

ksheab...Dman hasnt gotten his final blood work done.(so we dont even know if his otc pct theory has brought everything back to normal..yet.) His first blood work resuslts were all out of whack after his cycle. Dude he also got gyno(hard lumps under his nips and puffy nips) with just using otc pct. Its almost gone now he says after taking some stuff but even Dman does have Nolva (SERM) on hand just in case Ksheab. Dont fool your self man. (unless you want to increase your chances of getting gyno too) Its better to be safe than sorry bro is all im saying..
Im glad to see Loudenator has some on hand as well..but lets carry on..

[ksheab]

i completely understand what u r saying Shock and the more info people have the better. however, his log involving the "otc pct theory" is not new at all and has been successfully used ALREADY by many people. check the logs from 2000-2002.)

i just want people who say u HAVE to have nolva, etc. on hand to realize that u absolutely DONT have to. if problems develop on cycle then u take the appropriate steps. (its drives me nutz when people tell people they MUST have their nolva first)

however, many people do not have any problems during their cycles and r able to recover and keep their gains after a pct. ive taken 1-t and prohormones on numerous occasions and never experienced any lasting side effects.

in fact, the compounds SHOULD produce side effects. if not, then, they arent doing their job. Dman's blood work should b abnormal. the main quest involves getting the blood work, test levels, etc. back to normal again, asap.
gotta get the boys back to soldiering!

[-ShockWave-]

Originally Posted by ksheab

i just want people who say u HAVE to have nolva, etc. on hand to realize that u absolutely DONT have to. if problems develop on cycle then u take the appropriate steps. (its drives me nutz when people tell people they MUST have their nolva first)

I agree you dont have to.. but why wouldnt you want to have something like Nolva on hand other than being stubborn because it seems that it annoys you when people say you MUST have Nova and you dont need it because a few people have gotten lucky with their bodys balancing out after a cycle just taking otc pct..you said "if problems develop on cycle then u take the appropriate s taking steps" Well let say hypothetically your on a cycle and gyno occurs during your cycle. Well since you didnt have Nolva, Tam..etc you can take your chances with a non SERM and take vit B6 and HOPE that it takes it away? If it doesnt then you will have gyno forever.( a high price to pay for stubborness) But the approprate steps would be to take some type of Nolva, Tam..etc that has been PROVEN to work for decades apon decades. Im saying here that being anti SERM probably is not good of an idea and otc pct only is a high risk when it comes to DS that are known to have high side effects. Its your body and you have to live in it forever so do with it as you will.. live and let live but im anti man boobs.. lol

however, many people do not have any problems during their cycles and r able to recover and keep their gains after a pct. ive taken 1-t and prohormones on numerous occasions and never experienced any lasting side effects.

however many people do have problems even dman did..

in fact, the compounds SHOULD produce side effects. if not, then, they arent doing their job. Dman's blood work should b abnormal. the main quest involves getting the blood work, test levels, etc. back to normal again, asap.
gotta get the boys back to soldiering!

steroids 101 I agree with this, but we will just have to wait for dmans blood work and see..

[ksheab]

again, i agree with what u say. and i am NOT anti serm.
dont mean to come across that way.

if i start gettin some damn boobies, my dr. is 5min. away.

u r right, its more of a philosophical difference and not vs taking/having.
its vs those who say u have to take or u will have lasting negative effects.

i am an example of someone who has gone thru multiple 2-6 week 1-t and others cycles, using only everyday ptc and my health is fine.

[loudenator]

So i start my pre-loading phase tomorrow for one week. I just got back from the gym, i didn't workout but i weighed in and got my BF%.

Official Start Weight: 182.5lbs
I weighed in unusually light this morning( i was on a empty stomach ), I'm usually around 190, 192 during my evening workouts.

Body Fat: 7.9%
I know this is inaccurate to some degree, i don't have access to calipers at the moment so i used the hand held tester.

I've also uploaded a few pics for comparison at the end.

[-ShockWave-]

Originally Posted by loudenator

I'm just curious as to why you wouldn't include nolva or clomid in your pct, especially after a longer cycle than two weeks? Whats the purpose of discontinuing EFAs and vit e during cycle? I'm looking forward to seeing your log.

Loud im just having this conversation with ksheab discusing your quoted question. No hijacking here buddy..no disrespect. Lol your log will be an interesting one for sure! good luck with your cycle btw bro!

Originally Posted by ksheab

again, i agree with what u say. and i am NOT anti serm.
dont mean to come across that way.

if i start gettin some damn boobies, my dr. is 5min. away.

u r right, its more of a philosophical difference and not vs taking/having.
its vs those who say u have to take or u will have lasting negative effects.

i am an example of someone who has gone thru multiple 2-6 week 1-t and others cycles, using only everyday ptc and my health is fine.

ahh I c at least you have a fall back, a doc to goto if the sh*t hits the fan. Thats a good peice of mind aka a saftey net. I agree that you DONT have to have a SERM for cycles. There is NO rule stating you have to have a SERM. So I think I understand your point since it seemed like you were coming across that you are anti serm (my bad). But let me ask you something? If someone didnt have a saftey net such as insurance for a doc(most people dont) or any access to a SERM would you suggest someone run a DS with no SERM? It seems to me like it would be like playing with fire. Sooner or later I feel you going to get burned..

I have seen people take 3 cycles with no SERM and never have any lasting sides,(so people who preach you will have sides forever without a SERM are ignorant indeed) But then again One person out of the 3 took another cycle and..all of a sudden the gyno sides showed up. So it could possibly happen at any time some people are just luckier than others I suppose. The only real way you know your fine is to get a blood test and check out the results for sure.

Im not busting balls here ksheab. I think I got your view point. You dont HAVE to have a SERM but your not anti serm. (so people who preach you will have sides forever without a SERM are ignorant indeed). But you dont like people saying you have to have Nolva all the time right as you stated. I think the people that say/suggest you should use a SERM is just good precaution and good advice because it has proven to work rather than just otc pct, which cannot really take care of a sudden side effect problem if it occurs such as gyno, a SERM can. Or in your case seeing the doc for $600 give or take can.

[loudenator]

Np shockwave, i don't mind the dialog going on, it's interesting, actually the first time ive heard of the otc pct theory, however i know there are tons of people out there that don't use serms atfer PH cycles but i believe in the statement " better safe than sorry "

[-ShockWave-]

Originally Posted by loudenator

Np shockwave, i don't mind the dialog going on, it's interesting, actually the first time ive heard of the otc pct theory, however i know there are tons of people out there that don't use serms atfer PH cycles but i believe in the statement " better safe than sorry "

It sure is buddy, it sure is!

[loudenator]

Well today was day one of my preloading phase, i took all my support supplements and my diet and water intake is in check.

I weighed in at 2:00pm before my workout and the result was 185.5lbs. I'm going to consider this my "official starting weight." I'll weigh myself every monday at the same time to avoid any biased readings.

Chest/Triceps/Abs

Bench Press barx15, 135x10, 225x10, 245x6, 245x6, 135x20
Incline Dumbbell Press 70x10, 80x8, 80x8, 90x6
Flat Flyes 35x10 40x10 45x10
Decline Bench 135x10, 185x8, 205x8, 205x8 (my chest was fried, lol)

Overhead Dumbbell Raise 80x10, 80 x10, 90x9
Cable Pressdown 120x10, 120x10, 120x10
I felt my tricep were punished enough and probably wouldn't have been able to perform close grip with proper form as my whole upper body felt spent.

I finished with Abs and a 10 minute fullbody stretch. Overall not a bad workout. Its going to be interesting to see how much my lifts will increase on this two week cycle.

[ksheab]

alright- hey im excited and glad to c you gettin this log going. im gonna b watching all the way thru.

without sounding too much like an ass, id like to suggest:

drop the 70x10 and 80x8 on the db inc. and go directly to 90x6 for the sets.
why wait? if u can do 90's on your 4th set u can definitely do em on the first.

same with all your exercises: once the chest is warmed up why wait going to your heaviest weights? go directly to your heavy working sets. only reduce the wts when necessary.

let us know about all the different physiological, mental, emotional side effects u experience. as much detail that u can feel comfortable giving, lol.
i know when i did a log with 1-t i just said everything...

[loudenator]

Thanks i appreciate you following my log, its just going to make me push that much harder.

Your not sounding like an ass, any comments/tips are welcome.

I tend to pyramid the weight in most of my exercises, but you do have a valid point, next week after my chest is warmed up ill jump to the 90's, ill probably do a light set with 70's first as i like to get the feel(get in the grove) of the weight. The only problem i might encounter is my gym has no 95's, or 85's for that matter.(ridiculous i know) it jumps from 80 to 90 to 100, and 100 is the highest dumbbell, i'm in more of a fitness club right now.(changing at the end of the month)As of right now, my training is not restricted in anyway, but it could become a problem in the future, and i do plan to put the 100's sometime during this cycle

You can count on this log being very detailed, more so when i start taking M1T next week. I will be sure to note any physiological, or physciological.

[-ShockWave-]

I have a tip for ya loud.. look both ways beforey you cross the street haha j/k bro.. Just stoping by to check up on your log. keep it up bro!

[ksheab]

lol- ya it can b tough when u have to jump 10lbs.

as for the warming up-- i guess its cuz i read it over and over when it comes to people working out and thats why i always seem to suggest it.

i warmup using a pyramid scheme, as well, but, i pyramid both the weight and the reps. my warmup is just that-- a warmup. i dont want any pre-fatigue at all.

for example- if im using 100's as my first working set, i will often do warmup sets (with full rests) of 80x1 and 90x1 to acclimate to the weight. lol, in fact, its often very hard to rest 2min or so inbetween cuz recovery is so quick.

then when i do my next chest exercise i may do another acclimation set of a rep or2, rest, then right into my working set.

anyways- ill b checking in...

[loudenator]

Thanks sheab.

Well today is Leg day its gonna be killer. I'm not doing the leg workout specified above, i've decided to do one that i got out of this months Muscle & Fitness, it looks good, somthing along the same lines as the one above.

Also I should be getting my blood work back soon, i had it done about two weeks ago. I'll update later after my workout.

[loudenator]

Legs

*Leg extensions 60x20, 60x20(warmup to get the blood flowing into those knee joints) 120?x6(drop the weight 20-30% and go to failure, drop the weight again and go to failure, 2 sets)

Squats 135x4, 225x4, 315x8(drop the weight 20-30% and go to failure, drop the weight again and go to failure, 3 sets of this)

Stiff-Legged Deadlift 135x4, 225x8(drop the weight 20-30% and go to failure, drop the weight again and go to failure, 3 sets of this)

*Leg curls 60x20, 60x20, 120?x6(drop the weight 20-30% and go to failure, drop the weight again and go to failure, 2 sets)

Seated calf raises 90x20, 90x20, 135x12, 135x10

*Note: Leg ext. and Leg curls were done on Kesier Air Compressed machines so i don't know the exact load.

I've never did a leg workout like this before but i thought it was pretty good. I had an extra long stretch at the end. After my first exercise my legs were pumped and i had a hard time walking. Right now my legs are completely fried and i had a very hard time walking down the two flights of stairs on the way out of my gym. I don't think i'll do this EXACT workout again but the drop sets were interesting.

On another note, I'm excited to start taking the M1Ts, and i'm anticipating a successful cycle. Can't wait till Monday

[superman1]

I'm in!

btw do you know any friends who've tried the "andro tech" product to know its not bunk?

good luck bro

[loudenator]

Originally Posted by superman1

I'm in!

btw do you know any friends who've tried the "andro tech" product to know its not bunk?

good luck bro

Its good to have you, i have a few friends that have tried this kind of m1t and had solid results.(Andro-Tech, white bottle with black label and chrome lettering.) I have also had friends try other m1ts that have been junk, for one excel performance is apparently crap, nothing but bad sides and no gains.

One thing i do want to note is the capsules from this bottle are mediumsized and blue. My friend had the same bottle but the capsules were a dark tan color, almost the same color as milk thistle capsules.

[loudenator]

Well i've decided to take today off because my chest and tris are still relatively sore and i feel i wont get the most out of my delt workout if i go in today.

My plan for today is to eat alot of food, drink lots of water, take a nap and then go see the girlfriend

[GEORDIE.NI]

Good luck mate, im subbed, looking foward to seeing your results. Exellent log so far.

[ksheab]

itll b interesting to see if/when the compounds really start to kick in and u begin to recover very quickly. (and make some good comparisons to Geordie's cycle.)

then u wont even want to take any days off, lol!

[-ShockWave-]

Originally Posted by loudenator

Well i've decided to take today off because my chest and tris are still relatively sore and i feel i wont get the most out of my delt workout if i go in today.

My plan for today is to eat alot of food, drink lots of water, take a nap and then go see the girlfriend

Good thinking to chill! Your smart listening to your body. Most of my gains happen when I just chill and recover and eat right after tough workouts. This is what ive experienced. I started off at 155lbs now im 215.0 lbs. with no serious injuries. So I must be doing something right. Think of it this way if you going to see your gf. then maybe you can work out some secondary muscles with your gf. lool Also think of it as a rewarding cardio time..unless your a one hump chump lmao.. just clownin loud

[superman1]

Originally Posted by loudenator

Its good to have you, i have a few friends that have tried this kind of m1t and had solid results.(Andro-Tech, white bottle with black label and chrome lettering.) I have also had friends try other m1ts that have been junk, for one excel performance is apparently crap, nothing but bad sides and no gains.

One thing i do want to note is the capsules from this bottle are mediumsized and blue. My friend had the same bottle but the capsules were a dark tan color, almost the same color as milk thistle capsules.

thats some interesting info. thank you. what can you tell me about the 4-AD andro tech makes? white bottle shiny lettering. know anyone who have used it? what they say ect?

good luck on the cycle. its gonna get interesting to see from monday on...

[loudenator]

Originally Posted by -ShockWave-

Good thinking to chill! Your smart listening to your body. Most of my gains happen when I just chill and recover and eat right after tough workouts. This is what ive experienced. I started off at 155lbs now im 215.0 lbs. with no serious injuries. So I must be doing something right. Think of it this way if you going to see your gf. then maybe you can work out some secondary muscles with your gf. lool Also think of it as a rewarding cardio time..unless your a one hump chump lmao.. just clownin loud

Yup, no sense working out when the secondary muscles are still sore, thats looking for an injury and reason for me to not start this cycle! hah, never. I'm to pumped about getting this started! 155 to 210 i'd say your doing more than a couple of things right! keep it up! Whats your goal weight/bf%?

hahah yup so yesterday i had a little cardio workout with the gf, hope i didn't burn too many calories

Originally Posted by superman1

thats some interesting info. thank you. what can you tell me about the 4-AD andro tech makes? white bottle shiny lettering. know anyone who have used it? what they say ect?

good luck on the cycle. its gonna get interesting to see from monday on...

To be honest, i'm unfirmilar with the 4-AD by andro tech. I CAN'T WAIT TILL MONDAY I'm going to see my doctor today, he has the test results from my last cycle.(cycle was 2 months ago, did the blood work around 3 weeks ago.)

Well I'm off to the gym to punish the delts/traps, i'll update my lifts later!

[loudenator]

Delts/Traps

Dumbbell Press 60x10, 70x10, 70x8, 70x8
Upright Row 90x10, 100x8, 100x8
Dumbbell Lateral Raise 25x10, 30x8, 30x8
Bent Over Lateral Raise 20x12, 25x10, 25x10
Dumbbel Shrugs 80x10, 90x10, 100x10, 100x10 (sucks my gym only has 100's, i'm going to have to start doing barbell shrugs)

So i got by blood test results and everything is fine EXCEPT my creatine kinase level, it was crazy high! I'm not exactly sure what this is.. hence "creatine" but i haven't taken creatine in over 4 months.

Creatine Kinase 267 55-170 U/L(normal range)

Anyone know anything about this? My doctor said everything was fine even after looking at this lol?

[ksheab]

maybe its just because u have been working out hard for awhile and your body is overly stressed?

u did say that your delts were especially sore even tho u didnt work em directly?

but im definitely no expert, lol.....