Possibility of pumps from supps causing less work/gains?

[potionmaster]

We got all these complicated supps to give us massive pumps and engorge our muscles. I was wondering, does that actually cause you to do less work?

Its like you can achieve those engorged pumps even without these supps, just by working wout really intensely. If by taking them allows me to feel the same pumps quicker and with less work, then isn't that kinda defeating the purpose? You get the killer pumps but since u didn't really 'earn' it per se, its thereby kinda cheating yourself?

Discuss.

[bigdog365]

It just helps you go to that next level, with engergy for example. Whey protien is a good supp but 2 cans of plain tuna fish out of the can is way better.

[potionmaster]

I was specifically targeting pump supps...like say supps that always are always marketed and reviews as giving massive pumps or crazy pumps..

IMO when i get a huge pump...i can't go on training much longer...muscle fatigue sets in and its like a rock. I'm just not convinced supps making u arrive at this point faster is a good thing.

[A1lthatrema1ns]

I was specifically targeting pump supps...like say supps that always are always marketed and reviews as giving massive pumps or crazy pumps..

IMO when i get a huge pump...i can't go on training much longer...muscle fatigue sets in and its like a rock. I'm just not convinced supps making u arrive at this point faster is a good thing.

its been happening to me recently, im using White Blood while i cycle off stims and i got the most insane pump in my left bicep i had to stop workout out. i was dumbell curling 40's but had once the pump set in even curling the 15s hurt too much so i left the gym it sucked balls

[nni]

ive gotten pumps before (even recently) that have caused me to end sets early.

[potionmaster]

bingo..exactly what i'm talking about...i think its interesting to find out if you are building the same amount of muscle both ways.

If you can build and work the same muscle as intensely using the pump supps then YES its great. However, if its giving you the pump without true work to the muscle, then once the pump subsides, ur workout was basically ****.

I mean where is the proof that pump equates to building muscle. Its a good feel for sure but I can definitely tell if my pump was from a supp versus the day i didn't supp and got 'the pump' from hitting the muscle till it died.

[pkirk330]

We got all these complicated supps to give us massive pumps and engorge our muscles. I was wondering, does that actually cause you to do less work?

Its like you can achieve those engorged pumps even without these supps, just by working wout really intensely. If by taking them allows me to feel the same pumps quicker and with less work, then isn't that kinda defeating the purpose? You get the killer pumps but since u didn't really 'earn' it per se, its thereby kinda cheating yourself?

Discuss.

Ive always interpreted the purpose to be to hold a pump longer therefore creating better gains in the long run. Not JUST to get you a pump.

[in10city]

We got all these complicated supps to give us massive pumps and engorge our muscles. I was wondering, does that actually cause you to do less work?

Its like you can achieve those engorged pumps even without these supps, just by working wout really intensely. If by taking them allows me to feel the same pumps quicker and with less work, then isn't that kinda defeating the purpose? You get the killer pumps but since u didn't really 'earn' it per se, its thereby kinda cheating yourself?

Discuss.

Sure... you could end up losing full range of motion quicker and end up getting too much of a pump to be able to contract fully... meaning the pump gets in the way of fully exhausting the muscle.

[potionmaster]

Exactly...self-defeating. Especially on some bodyparts like forearms and bi's, tri's...i mean really INSANE pumps would kinda render u useless, you'd have to drop so much weight...and makes u feel like whoa what a great workout, I just killed my arms...but did you?

Another thing is, i'm kinda scared to push too far past my huge pumps...afraid i might pop something, u dig?

[in10city]

Exactly...self-defeating. Especially on some bodyparts like forearms and bi's, tri's...i mean really INSANE pumps would kinda render u useless, you'd have to drop so much weight...and makes u feel like whoa what a great workout, I just killed my arms...but did you?

Another thing is, i'm kinda scared to push to far past my huge pumps...afraid i might pop something, u dig?

I dig it... some pump is fine, but it gets really annoying when the pump gets out of hand.

[JakeDub]

I bought into the n.o. supps for awhile, but I agree it was almost too much sometimes. Plus I get all the pump I need from a nice pre-workout sweet potato.

[Drexx]

I used to stop but usually I just stretch out that muscle a little bit for a few seconds and that usually flush's the blood a little bit

[mikestraussen]

I bought into the n.o. supps for awhile, but I agree it was almost too much sometimes. Plus I get all the pump I need from a nice pre-workout sweet potato.

The Placebo is strong with this one.

[JakeDub]

The Placebo is strong with this one.

Placebo from a sweet potato? You lost me...

[EMartNJ]

its been happening to me recently, im using White Blood while i cycle off stims and i got the most insane pump in my left bicep i had to stop workout out. i was dumbell curling 40's but had once the pump set in even curling the 15s hurt too much so i left the gym it sucked balls

why did this clown get unbanned

[chazzy1864]

Exactly...self-defeating. Especially on some bodyparts like forearms and bi's, tri's...i mean really INSANE pumps would kinda render u useless, you'd have to drop so much weight...and makes u feel like whoa what a great workout, I just killed my arms...but did you?

Another thing is, i'm kinda scared to push too far past my huge pumps...afraid i might pop something, u dig?

I know what you mean. My workouts already kill my arms enough. My forearms start getting pumped a ton, and I don't want to lift anything or squeeze. With NO products, there is extra pump that just makes it happen quicker. >.<