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Old 04-05-2008, 02:16 PM   #1
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Prone Rear delt DB Row VS Bent Over Lateral Raise

i'll do the standing lateral raise for the lateral head...but for rear delts, I prefer the rowing movement (perpendicular to the body to emphasize the delts).

what do you guys think? Think theres any difference in development or weight moved? I try match the DB's i use for all the heads to keep me balanced.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:13 PM   #2
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Yes, you can do the rear delt rows lying down or standing up, like a bentover row to your upper chest. The range of motion on both of those exercises feels more comfortable to me than the bentover lateral raises.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:17 PM   #3
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you can do seated cable rows, but you'd pull into your face with elbows high, rather than stomach. however, you gotta mix it up. try doing bent over lat raises or if that feels awkward, do them on an incline bench, face down.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:22 PM   #4
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i'll do the standing lateral raise for the lateral head...but for rear delts, I prefer the rowing movement (perpendicular to the body to emphasize the delts).

what do you guys think? Think theres any difference in development or weight moved? I try match the DB's i use for all the heads to keep me balanced.
The lateral raise spreads the work across the upper back and the rear delt row targets the rear delt more specifically.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:52 PM   #5
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I think a prone, chest-supported rear delt row is much safer for the shoulder girdle than the rear delt flye ...it's also much closer to how you would move in a day-to-day task...no one uses leverage against themselves in normal activities...if you do use the flye, keep it light and high rep.
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Old 04-05-2008, 03:59 PM   #6
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you can do seated cable rows, but you'd pull into your face with elbows high, rather than stomach.
I tried that and my rear delts laughed at me, that feels more like trap exercise..
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whats a good weight for the rear delt dumbell row? like if 25s to 30s is pretty strong on the standing lateral raise, whats a good weight for rear delts to work towards?

im using like 17.5s but i think could easily go 22.5s (im keeping it at 17.5 to match my front raise...want to keep everything in proportion)
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Old 04-05-2008, 05:47 PM   #8
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whats a good weight for the rear delt dumbell row? like if 25s to 30s is pretty strong on the standing lateral raise, whats a good weight for rear delts to work towards?

im using like 17.5s but i think could easily go 22.5s (im keeping it at 17.5 to match my front raise...want to keep everything in proportion)
More like in the 40's range for you, I would think.
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Old 04-05-2008, 06:00 PM   #9
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More like in the 40's range for you, I would think.
yeah, it's a pretty solid position...

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I usually end up at 35s for bent over laterals. I do them the real old school way where you squat all the way down and bend at the waist. I hate resting my head on a bench or anything like that. It's hard not to use some body english for these, but as long as you keep squeezing the rear delt you'll be ok.

I do rear delts at the end of both back and shoulder day. Just one exercise each day for four or five sets. This has brought my rear delts up a lot, and my made shoulders look much bigger.
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personally, i do very strict rear lateral raises and it forces me to go very light. I think im going to try a mix between the exercise in the link above and my laterals. Maybe kind of come out wider as I'm rowing to full contraction. Also, I'm gonna try turning the DBs parallel w/ my body. It might be a good idea to let the negative portion of the movement appear much closer to a lateral since we have so much more power when lowering weights.
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More like in the 40's range for you, I would think.
..."for you" ....so your singling me out eh? -----> jk ...i used 20s today, 4 x 20 ...ill be at 40 in no time! ...im so weak lol
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..."for you" ....so your singling me out eh? -----> jk ...i used 20s today, 4 x 20 ...ill be at 40 in no time! ...im so weak lol
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post149296681
I do rear lateral raises at around 35 and the rear DB rows 55 or 60, so I was basing it on that. You said 20-25 so I guesstimated around 40 (maybe 35).
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I do rear lateral raises at around 35 and the rear DB rows 55 or 60, so I was basing it on that. You said 20-25 so I guesstimated around 40 (maybe 35).
oh i see! actually that gives me good info....so if im DB delt rowing 20s to 25s id only be rear raisin like 15

...it seems u thought i meant i was raising 20s....no im only rowing 20s lol



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