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    Which would win? Presa Canario or Wolf

    Here is the Presa Canario:





    It has been bred for a long time as a cattle dog and guard dog, and also for it's ability to fight. They aren't really tall, but they can be mean and fierce.
    The Presa should be powerful, balanced, and imposing in appearance. It is heavily built, but able to move with great athleticism.

    The head is broad, massive, square, and powerful. Proper head and good expression are part of the breed standard, and are manifest in the best breed specimens.Males average between 23.5-25.5 inches at the withers and weigh between 110-130 pounds.
    They of course can be bigger than this.

    Here is the Gray, or Timber, Wolf





    It is adapted and evolved for endurance, especially in travel. It is generally a team-work fighter and maybe not very effective when solitary.
    Wolf weight and size can vary greatly worldwide, tending to increase proportionally with latitude as predicted by Bergmann's Rule. In general, height varies from 0.6 to .95meters (26?38 inches) at the shoulder and weight ranges from 20 to 62 kilograms, which together make the gray wolf the largest of all wild canids.[4] Although rarely encountered, extreme specimens of more than 77 kg (170 lb) have been recorded in Alaska and Canada.[5] The heaviest wild wolf on record, killed in Alaska in 1939, was 80 kg (175 lb)
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    I'd have to go with the Presa Canario. More adapted to one on one fighing while the wolf has evolved to hunt with other wolves in a pack.
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    people give wolves way too much credit!

    wolves power is in their numbers, alone they are weak.
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    1 vs 1 = Presa, wolves hunt in packs. Also in NO a few years ago 2 pitbulls almost murdered a giant bull. It would've taken an entire pack of wolves to do that much damage.
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    Originally Posted by Iron_Chef View Post
    1 vs 1 = Presa, wolves hunt in packs. Also in NO a few years ago 2 pitbulls almost murdered a giant bull. It would've taken an entire pack of wolves to do that much damage.
    WOW. I mean, WOW. Single wolves have been observed and photographed killing large prey, including buffalo, and moose on their own.

    They kill things EVERY DAY.

    A bunch of self proclaimed wolf experts here. A wolf is an amazing animal. Show some respect.

    Do you even know how long a wolf fight lasts? Less than three minutes and then the other animal is dead.

    Anyway. A friend used a presa canario for bear hunting. It went chasing after a wolf and out of sight. When the hunter reached his dog is was missing it's snout and choking to death on it's own blood. There is no fight between a wolf and a dog. The hunter had to shoot his dog. So the wolf basically ripped the dogs face off and left. Get it? It was proably a lot easier than what the wolf was used to. If you want there are a lot of documeented cases of what happens to ANY breed of dog when it faces off with a wild grey wolf.

    I have spoken to experts, literally. Also, why do you think on Discovery Channel they had Wolf vs Cougar and not wolf vs large dog? Hmmmm? Because that would be stupid...

    There is much to be leaarned but I'm not going to sit and teach it. For one they have bigger teeth and they have a huge gape, bigger than a dogs. This is a beautiful animal. They kill HUGE animals every DAY. They hunt in packs because it's more intelligent to do so. They don't HAVE to. Also, most wolf packs are mom, dad, and the pups...
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    Oh, and since you seem to think highly of pit bulls skill

    Originally Posted by Iron_Chef View Post
    1 vs 1 = Presa, wolves hunt in packs. Also in NO a few years ago 2 pitbulls almost murdered a giant bull. It would've taken an entire pack of wolves to do that much damage.

    This might be of interest to you

    Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic (Dangerous Encounters: Bite Force, 8pm est 8/18/2005) ? Dr. Barr measured bite forces of many different creatures. Domestic dogs were included in the test.

    Here are the results of all of the animals tested:

    Humans: 120 pounds of bite pressure

    Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepherd Dog, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The American Pit Bull Terrier had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.

    The rott had the hardest bite

    Wild dogs: 310 lbs wild dogs are smaller than pit bulls... and it only nipped the tester, wolves have HUGE heads.

    Lions: 600 lbs

    White sharks: 600 lbs

    Hyenas: 1000 lbs

    Snapping turtles: 1000 lbs

    Crocodiles: 2500 lbs

    There are documented cases of a single wolf killing a rott. More than one actually.
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    *Shaking head*

    Are you dolts that continue to vote presa canario even reading the information? Well, you can't help IQ ... The Presa lost! Face ... Gone!

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    Originally Posted by nichole09 View Post
    This might be of interest to you

    Dr. Brady Barr of National Geographic (Dangerous Encounters: Bite Force, 8pm est 8/18/2005) ? Dr. Barr measured bite forces of many different creatures. Domestic dogs were included in the test.

    Here are the results of all of the animals tested:

    Humans: 120 pounds of bite pressure

    Domestic dogs: 320 LBS of pressure on avg. A German Shepherd Dog, American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), and Rottweiler were tested using a bite sleeve equipped with a specialized computer instrument. The American Pit Bull Terrier had the least amount of pressure of the 3 dogs tested.

    The rott had the hardest bite

    Wild dogs: 310 lbs wild dogs are smaller than pit bulls... and it only nipped the tester, wolves have HUGE heads.

    Lions: 600 lbs

    White sharks: 600 lbs

    Hyenas: 1000 lbs

    Snapping turtles: 1000 lbs

    Crocodiles: 2500 lbs

    There are documented cases of a single wolf killing a rott. More than one actually.
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    Originally Posted by nichole09 View Post
    Are you dolts that continue to vote presa canario even reading the information? Well, you can't help IQ ... The Presa lost! Face ... Gone!

    Eat your B vitamins people ...
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    wolves kill **** a lot more often than presas do.
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    Strong retardation in this thread, perro de presa canario weighs twice as much + has a strong killing instinct (my dad had 2 of em, beautiful dogs)
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    Originally Posted by Dodoz View Post
    Strong retardation in this thread, perro de presa canario weighs twice as much + has a strong killing instinct (my dad had 2 of em, beautiful dogs)
    a wolf probably has more killing instinct seeing as its a wild animal. also im pretty sure wolves have the strongest bite strength of all canines.
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    Originally Posted by Dodoz View Post
    Strong retardation in this thread, perro de presa canario weighs twice as much + has a strong killing instinct (my dad had 2 of em, beautiful dogs)
    Large wolves can weigh anywhere from 150-175lbs brah. How much does "perro de presa canario" weigh?


    Also, yeah Wolves fight in packs, but the Alpha wolf is going to fight off every other wolf in the pack for dibs on food/bitches. An Alpha wolf vs a domesticated dog would be interesting...
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    Originally Posted by nichole09 View Post
    WOW. I mean, WOW. Single wolves have been observed and photographed killing large prey, including buffalo, and moose on their own.

    They kill things EVERY DAY.

    A bunch of self proclaimed wolf experts here. A wolf is an amazing animal. Show some respect.

    Do you even know how long a wolf fight lasts? Less than three minutes and then the other animal is dead.

    Anyway. A friend used a presa canario for bear hunting. It went chasing after a wolf and out of sight. When the hunter reached his dog is was missing it's snout and choking to death on it's own blood. There is no fight between a wolf and a dog. The hunter had to shoot his dog. So the wolf basically ripped the dogs face off and left. Get it? It was proably a lot easier than what the wolf was used to. If you want there are a lot of documeented cases of what happens to ANY breed of dog when it faces off with a wild grey wolf.

    I have spoken to experts, literally. Also, why do you think on Discovery Channel they had Wolf vs Cougar and not wolf vs large dog? Hmmmm? Because that would be stupid...

    There is much to be leaarned but I'm not going to sit and teach it. For one they have bigger teeth and they have a huge gape, bigger than a dogs. This is a beautiful animal. They kill HUGE animals every DAY. They hunt in packs because it's more intelligent to do so. They don't HAVE to. Also, most wolf packs are mom, dad, and the pups...
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    Originally Posted by Dodoz View Post
    Strong retardation in this thread, perro de presa canario weighs twice as much + has a strong killing instinct (my dad had 2 of em, beautiful dogs)
    funny you used the word retardation...

    both weights are cleary stated in the first post. So your comment addressing that is wrong.

    How can a domesicated guard dog, fed in a bowl since it got off it's momma's tit, possibly have the killing instinct of a wild animal that only eats if it kills? I understand you merely said the canario has a "strong" killing instinct, but a wolf clearly has more motivation, and experience.
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    I have seen some pics on the web of what happens to dogs. I cannot post a link or pics for some reason.
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    Originally Posted by InternetsUser View Post
    This guy wears wolf shirts
    I actually do not have a "Wolf shirt"
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    Originally Posted by Dodoz View Post
    Strong retardation in this thread, perro de presa canario weighs twice as much + has a strong killing instinct (my dad had 2 of em, beautiful dogs)
    That doesn't mean anything. You don't know anything about wolves and apparently didn't read the other posts I put up.



    "Many dogfights in Russia are said to be tainted, with steroid-swelled dogs, or animals smeared with wolf fat to confuse or intimidate their foes, or dogs' mouths injected with Novocain to make them fight without hesitation. But Edgar Grigorian, Khattab's owner, said that at this level the matches were clean."

    From a dog fighting aarticle. Why would the smell of a wolf frighten the badass fighting dog? Hmmmmmm??? Because it would kill him. It would be like going up against jaws, there are plenty of pics on the web to prove this, but I can't post 'em.
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    I laugh at guys who think a dog can kill a WOLF.
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    I don't think it would be clear cut same winner every time but I'm sure some Presa's would kill a wolf. Ovcharka or Caucasian Sheppard on the other hand will kill a wolf every time, those dogs are unbelievable.
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    presa canario vs wolf

    I can verify several things. I've owned a wolf and I currently own a presa canario. The presa is 160 lbs, and 11 mths old, and I can tell u, he's already far more powerful that my wolf was fully grown. There r several difference. First the presa has a higher pain threshold. The person who made the post on bite force didn't tell the who story. The wolf had a bite force of 400 lbs. The mastiff breeds, which presa canarios r a part of were over 600 lbs. Turkish Kangals also called anatolian shepherds were over 700 lbs of bite force. Mastiff breeds have been bred to KILL WOLVES. I have a Canadian friend who breeds presa canarios to kill badgers and wolverines. I have witnessed it done with relative ease by these dogs. I've also witnessed both these animals whip a wolf's ass. If a presa grabs a wolf, the wolf will wanna quit, not fight. The presa canario would kill a wolf, every time. Superior strength, tenacity, fearlessness, aggression, bite force and a higher pain threshold = a dead wolf.
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    And also, caucasian mountain dogs an Tibetan mastiffs kill wolves for breakfast. Wolves aren't the baddest canines around. Not even close.
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