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    does smoking bud effect muscle in any way?

    umm, im just...curious.
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    No it doesn't so long as you remain consistent with hard workouts and lots of good, clean food. Just keep your priorities in order.
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    No, but being an idiot does.
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    Originally Posted by kingtego View Post
    No it doesn't so long as you remain consistent with hard workouts and lots of good, clean food. Just keep your priorities in order.
    smoking bud would make it hard for this kid to eat clean food hahahahahh
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    well your great i used to be a pothead from 14 - 17 and i dont think so i mean as long as you dont munch out at taco bell or mcdonalds you know and also do it afterwards or non training days
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    by bud do you mean weed? as thats proven to lower testosterone levels and so yes does have a negative impact on muscle building
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    yeah if you smoke dro everyday for 3 months then there a slight possibility of lowering your test level
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    Originally Posted by fallenx33 View Post
    smoking bud would make it hard for this kid to eat clean food hahahahahh

    Marijuana doesn't force you to eat ****ty foods. It is perfectly possible to decide to eat something clean.

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    by bud do you mean weed? as thats proven to lower testosterone levels and so yes does have a negative impact on muscle building
    No, not at all.

    Any studies showing that the serum testosterone levels decreased after marijuana intake showed temporary, insignificant decreases that were still in normal levels. One study from 1974 showed decrease in testosterone levels, and now it is the basis for all anti-marijuana propaganda.

    And I have never in my life heard a study stating that marijuana affects muscle growth? Care to enlighten me?

    A new study by Dr. Robert Block at the University of
    Iowa disputes the commonly held notion that marijuana alters
    the level of testosterone and other sex hormones.
    The study contradicted a widely publicized 1974 study
    by Dr. R.C. Kolodony, which reported decreased testosterone
    levels in men who smoked marijuana chronically.
    The U. of Iowa study found that chronic marijuana use
    had no effect on testosterone, luteinizing hormone, follicle
    stimulating hormone, prolactin and cortisol in men or women.
    Noting that six other studies had failed to show
    lowered testosterone levels in men, Dr. Block concluded: "It
    appears that marijuana, even heavy use of the kind that's
    typical in the United States, doesn't alter testosterone levels."
    However, he cautioned that heavy use might have other
    adverse effects, including "possible effects on reproductive
    function and mild, selective cognitive impairments associated
    with heavy, chronic use."
    Block's study is published in Drug and Alcohol
    Dependence, Vol. 28: 121-8 (1991).
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    great another does weed affect my gains thread
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    I knew a guy on my football team in high school who could do 240lbs max on bench. Now this guy was like solid muscle and weighed 210. How does this happen? He smoked some dro before he lifted and couldn't focus on the lift. So as long as you don't do it during a work out or close to one, it really doesn't matter.
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    found this on musclescience.com------>In human males, cannabis smoking has been shown to decrease blood levels of the three hormones LH, FSH, and testosterone. Moreover, an increased incidence of low sperm count has been reported in men who were heavy marijuana smokers. Other studies did not find measurable differences in men who were light or heavy marijuana users. Acute THC treatment produces a consistent and significant dose- and time-related decrease in LH and testosterone levels in male rodents. In the male rhesus monkey, an acute dose of THC produced a 65% reduction in blood testosterone levels by 60 min of treatment that lasted for approximately 24 hr.
    (Please note: This text has been taken from a scientific text. Some sentences have been changed to improve understandability.)
    Murphy L. Hormonal system and reproduction. In: Grotenhermen F, Russo E, eds. Grotenhermen, F., Russo, E. (eds.): Cannabis and cannabinoids. Pharmacology, toxicology, and therapeutic potential. Haworth Press, Binghamton/New York 2001, in press.



    6.5.1 Effects on the male reproductive system

    In animals, marijuana, crude marijuana extracts, THC and certain other
    purified cannabinoids have been shown to "depress the functioning of
    the male reproductive endocrine system" (Bloch, 1983, p355). If used
    chronically, cannabis reduces plasma testosterone levels, retards
    sperm maturation, reducing the sperm count and sperm motility, and
    increasing the rate of abnormal sperm (Bloch, 1983, National Academy
    of Science, 1982; Wenger et al, 1992). Although the mechanisms by
    which cannabis produces these effects are uncertain, it is likely that
    they occur both directly as a result of action of THC on the testis,
    and indirectly via effects on the hypothalamic secretion of the
    hormones that stimulate the testis to produce testosterone (Wenger et
    al, 1992).



    Psychoactive Drugs and Athletic Performance
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    Marijuana. This drug is tried by at least a third of high school students and may be used more commonly than cigarettes because it is incorrectly perceived to contain fewer toxic irritants and ergolytic chemicals than tobacco smoke (14,15). Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the active ingredient, causes sedation and euphoria at low doses and hallucinations and psychosis at high doses. Its effects on athletic performance are increased reaction time, decreased fine-motor coordination, and increased heart rate. These effects, along with the vasodilating effect, cause an athlete to reach maximal heart rate at a lower than normal intensity of exercise, resulting in a decreased maximal work capacity. Chronic marijuana use has been associated with decreased motivation to perform and to give a maximal effort as well as with decreased circulating testosterone levels (8); this second effect may be persuasive when counseling teenage male athletes against marijuana use. Marijuana use is illegal and is banned by the NCAA. National and international sports federations test athletes for marijuana use on a discretionary basis.

    The Psychological Effects of Marijuana Use:

    Mahes Ramachandran
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    Effects on the reproductive systems of both men and women showed different effects. In men, a single dose of THC lowers sperm count and the level of testosterone (Hollister, 1986).




    As always there are counter studies, and doctors who say it has little effect on testosterone. Take everything as a grain of sand and make your own decisions.


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    Originally Posted by l3lackquel View Post
    I knew a guy on my football team in high school who could do 240lbs max on bench. Now this guy was like solid muscle and weighed 210. How does this happen? He smoked some dro before he lifted and couldn't focus on the lift. So as long as you don't do it during a work out or close to one, it really doesn't matter.


    sooooooooo what you're saying it.........


    obviously, smoking weed helped him?
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    Originally Posted by Cali Soca
    sooooooooo what you're saying it.........


    obviously, smoking weed helped him?
    The opposite of that.
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    Smoking weed especially during puberty has a weakening effect on your hormone production, therefore making you not up to par as you should be, on top of that what you are getting high off of is highly toxic to your body, and now your immune system has to both protect you overtime because you are more susceptible to disease by working out (why bodybuilders get sick alot) and your trouncing all over it with a bunch of toxic crap. If you smoke weed that's your own business, however, if you're already willing to smoke it I really don't think you ACTUALLY care about what kind of affect it has on your muscles.
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    god, another thread on this ?

    strong peer pressure...
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    I suppose doing it regularly would, but say if you do it once or twice a year I don't think it would.
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    quit smoking weed its no good for you
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    Originally Posted by MatthewLuke60
    and now your immune system has to both protect you overtime because you are more susceptible to disease by working out (why bodybuilders get sick alot)
    That's not true.
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    Yes! smoking burns calories
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    Promotes estrogen, and causes possibly gyno:

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    dear god find me one reputable study where it says marijuana promotes estrogen and causes gyno.

    why do our government and schools feel the need to promote such ridiculous misinformation
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    Originally Posted by big-muscle-19 View Post
    quit smoking weed its no good for you
    You're only saying that 'cause you bulk so easy.


    munchies = extra calories.

    Need to munch? I'm a big fan of toast with butter, as well as chili, eggs, and/or chicken.
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