Best Creatine with Beta-Alanine Sup

[KnockoutLB_old]

Im lookin for a good Creatine and Beta-Alanine product all in one; preferably with a little bit of sugar in it... I'll most likely take it preworkout.

Ill stack it with Orange Triad, Purple Wraath, Fish oils, Whey Protein, and a Weight Gainer.

[Amino89]

Pretty good stuff for your needs
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/prima/n20.html

[in10city]

Im lookin for a good Creatine and Beta-Alanine product all in one; preferably with a little bit of sugar in it... I'll most likely take it preworkout.

Ill stack it with Orange Triad, Purple Wraath, Fish oils, Whey Protein, and a Weight Gainer.

Non-stim - Clout.
Stim - Vasocharge (aka Primal N20) .

[Salty99]

Get Cold Fusion EX by LG Sciences..I've got great results from it!!!

[KnockoutLB_old]

Never taken an NO2 supp after i tried no xplode for 2 days, but got splitting headaches, so i stopped. Not sure if i should try another... Plus, Primal N20 only has 2.5g creatine?

[KnockoutLB_old]

besides that, they all look pretty good... Thanks guys

[KnockoutLB_old]

anyone ever tried Xpand?

[defyance]

no-shotgun and white flood. could also just buy bulk beta alanine and mix it with them, pretty cheap.

[syssstem]

try storm by universal nutrition... tastes great!!

or buy ab ig tub of creatine mono, a big tub of beta alanine, and a big tub of xtend..... lasts you like a full year lol

[Amino89]

Never taken an NO2 supp after i tried no xplode for 2 days, but got splitting headaches, so i stopped. Not sure if i should try another... Plus, Primal N20 only has 2.5g creatine?

That's not a bad dose, especially if your doing more than 1 scoop (which you will be after a while ) 3-5g. is all you need a day.

[Nsaladino]

MAN - Clout
Best creatine product out. It also has BA in it.

[nguyen949]

what does beta alanine exactly do?

[in10city]

what does beta alanine exactly do?

Read this -> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beta_alanine.htm

[user98511001541]

HANDS DOWN BODYFORGE


coming soon

seriously its got an AMAZING profile!!! dig it!

[lbarber4]

MAN Clout

[LakunaKoil]

The new version NO Xplode contains Beta Alanine

[DinoT1985]

Voluplex works well. Keep a look out for BodyForge and CryoShock.

[RB12]

Non-stim - Clout.
Stim - Vasocharge (aka Primal N20) .

good call, my only problem with n20/vaso is the clumping, quite frustrating, but still a good product

[Hatebreed13]

HANDS DOWN BODYFORGE


coming soon

seriously its got an AMAZING profile!!! dig it!

By Neogenix? Maybe...
but for now, it's MAN CLOUT. Bar none.

[INGENIUM]

but for now, it's MAN CLOUT. Bar none.

agreed. nothing comes close IMO

[nguyen949]

Read this -> http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/beta_alanine.htm

Thanks for the article it was very imformative i think ill give it a try and buy bulk beta alanine. Any brands you guys would recommend

[Armbender]

Clout

[Dlau]

HANDS DOWN BODYFORGE


coming soon

seriously its got an AMAZING profile!!! dig it!

whats so great about it ? just read up on it all i see is BA, CM and CEE.

[REPS-Forum-Rep]

Im lookin for a good Creatine and Beta-Alanine product all in one; preferably with a little bit of sugar in it... I'll most likely take it preworkout.

Ill stack it with Orange Triad, Purple Wraath, Fish oils, Whey Protein, and a Weight Gainer.

I would recommend one of the REPS Pre-workout flavors by Supplement Direct as it has the two ingredients you are interested in along with many other great ingredients in a full disclosure label. It is on sale now for only $9.99 in the 215g size!

REPS is a innovative pre-workout formula designed to increase performance and work capacity while in the gym, on the field and during periods of sporting competition. REPS works on many different levels within the body, in order to improve work capacity and performance. REPS combines the following ingredients into a powerful and efficient pre-workout intensifier.

An individual who weighs between 201-250 pounds would consume 5 rounded scoops which would result in the following quantity of ingredients being ingested:

Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate.......... 1.5 grams
Creatine Monohydrate................... 4.0 grams
L-Citrulline Malate........................ 3.0 grams
Beta Alanine............................... 3.0 grams
Caffeine..................................... 200 milligrams
Taurine...................................... 4.0 grams
Ribose....................................... 3.0 grams
__________________________________________________ ________
Total......................................... 18.70 grams of active ingredients


There are currently three versions available:

-ELECTRIC LEMONADE (Caffeinated)
-GRAPELICIOUS (Caffeine Free)
-WILD WATERMELLON (Caffeinated)

Supplement Direct felt that it was necessary to offer a Caffeine free pre-workout formula for the following reasons:

-Some individuals train later in the evening or at night and need a caffeine free product.
-Some individuals are currently taking some form of fat burner and do not wish to consume added caffeine.
-Some individuals have allergic reactions to caffeine and or similar stimulants.
-Many customers are disappointed with the current Pre-Workout formulas available and feel that many are just flavored caffeine water. Supplement Direct decided that in the interests of the consumer, it is imperative that they are able to try the formula with out caffeine, in order to truly feel the power of the other 6 ingredients.

Hear is the REPS link on Bodybuilding.com:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/reps.html

For a listing of all Supplement Direct Products please click on this link:
http://bodybuilding.com/store/sd/sd.htm

For common questions regarding REPS please click hear:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7604231

Not only does Supplement Direct tests each and every batch of raw material, but they also freely give the laboratories information and copies of the Independent Third Party Lab Assays. Supplement Direct uses the following lab:

San Rafael Chemical Services

2180 E. 4500 S. #125

Salt Lake City, UT. 84117

801-277-8228

[REPS-Forum-Rep]

The goal of every hard training individual is to break down the maximum amount of muscle while training in the gym, or on the field. You do not grow muscle when you train! Instead you grow muscle while you sleep through the body using protein, carbohydrates, fat and hormones to replenish and repair muscle tissue. The sole goal of training in the gym is to break down the muscle fibers further by constantly making small continual progress. Progress in the gym is usually measured in the following ways: adding more reps, sets and or weight on the bar. In fact the mathematical equation for size is as follows:


Hypertrophy=(Load)(Time Under Tension)(Volume)


What the equation means is that hypertrophy or size is determined by the load or the amount of weight on the bar multiplied by the time under tension or the number of reps you do, followed by the volume or total number of sets you perform. REPS works by increasing your ability to make continual progress on each of the three pathways mentioned above which will allow you the ability to add more muscular size.


Creatine Monohydrate and Ribose work synergistically in a very powerful role. Together they help increase the muscle fuel called ATP or adenosine triphosphate. ATP is the primary energy-producing molecule for short bursts of energy or vigorous muscle contraction. Lifting heavy weights, sprinting for short burst and any form of sparing all use ATP for the muscle's primary energy source. Unfortunately, as you are exercising, ATP releases its energy at the time of contraction and it breaks apart, loses a phosphate atom, and forms adenosine diphosphate (ADP). The body only maintains a small supply of ATP which is sufficient to last a few seconds. This is why it is paramount to supplement with Creatine and Ribose. Oral supplementation of Ribose has shown to increase athletic performance in young male recreational bodybuilders. In one study the group that received Ribose had significant increases in muscular strength and total work performance after four weeks, compared with pre-treatment levels. No changes were noted in those using a placebo. (15) In 1998, a study conducted showed that creatine can increase both strength and endurance in athletes. Creatine was given to 25 football players who had reached a plateau while undergoing a difficult weight-training program. After 28 days of supplementation with creatine, researchers measured a 41 percent increase in "total lifting volume" (sum of all lifts). (11) Have you ever reached a training plateau and wanted to break through it? Supplementation with Creatine and Ribose just might be the ticket for you. One year later, another study which lasted 35 days showed that 42 football players had improvement in both strength and mass. (7) Creatine and Ribose do not only work for men, as a study of 29 women who took supplemental creatine for ten weeks also made improvements in strength and muscle mass. (16) Some researchers have shown strength gains with as little as five to seven days of supplementation. (14),(17) Creatine supplementation is also beneficial to older weightlifters and athletes. In a double blind study conducted at the University of Saskatchewan, found that creatine supplementation in conjunction with a weight training program demonstrated a significant advantage of creatine over placebo in terms of increased lean body mass, reduction in body fat, and increased muscular strength, and endurance in men over the age of 70. (5) Overall creatine and ribose supplementation enhance muscular function and size along with cardiovascular, and neurological function. (8) (18)


Beta-Alanine is the rate-limiting precursor of the amino acid Carnosine. What this means is that the more Beta-Alanine you ingest the more Carnosine your body can produce. Supplementation with Beta-Alanine has been shown to increase the concentration of Carnosine in muscles, decrease fatigue in athletes and increase total muscular work performed in one training session. (6)(9) A recent study by Dr. Hoffman and Colleagues recently examined stacking Creatine and Beta-Alanine together and the results were simply amazing. The study used 33 highly trained college football players and monitored their results for 10 weeks. Prior to and following the 10-week study, the researchers had the football players keep a log of their dietary intake, measured the athletes' body composition, body weight, one-repetition maximum in the bench press and squat. The football players who consumed creatine and beta-Alanine increased their 1 repetition max on the bench by roughly 25 pounds. Increases in one-rep squat max were even greater, in that the increase in their 1 repetition maximum was improved by nearly 50 pounds. The athletes also gained a significant amount of muscle mass and lost 1.2% of body fat. (10) Overall a very impressive study!


Citrulline Malate is a combination of two non-essential amino acids that play a role in nitrogen balance and metabolic processes. Citrulline Malate improves aerobic performance and capacity by influencing lactic acid metabolism and reducing fatigue. Citrulline Malate helps to reduce lactic acid during intense training. Lactic acid is one of the compounds that are responsible for the intense burn that you feel towards the end of a set. For most individuals, if the intense burn is buffered, they can usually get another repetition or two which can lead to more muscle mass when compounded over hundreds of workouts during a year of training. Citrulline Malate also has the ability to increase plasma levels of Arginine within the body which can also lead to an increase in Nitric Oxide, "NO" levels (7),(12). Citrulline has also shown to increase ATP (Andenosine Triphosphate), which is the major source of energy during exercise along with greater phosphocreatine recovery after exercise (3).


Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate is an advanced form of the amino acid Arginine used by bodybuilders and athletes to prolong the muscle pump, accelerate muscle growth, speed recovery and improve sexual performance. Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate is suitable for bodybuilders, athletes and regular gym users wanting to gain muscle size and strength, get a better muscle "pump" while working out, and improve sexual vigor. Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate works on many pathways within the body by stimulating the production of nitric oxide and insulin. Insulin is a very potent anabolic hormone, especially post workout. The anecdotal evidence reported from many satisfied gym users shows a clear increase in muscle pump, but what is more amazing is the possible strength increases associated with Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate. During an 8 week study, the group that received the AAKG increased their one repetition maximum on the bench press by an average of 19 pounds while the placebo group added only 5 pounds. (4) Who out there would like to add 19 pounds to their bench press?


Taurine is a conditionally essential amino acid and is the second most abundant amino in muscle tissue. Taurine has demonstrated muscle cell volumizing and insulin like effects, which can help to enhance protein synthesis and enhance glucose and amino acid metabolism. Taurine's powerful anti-catabolic effects have been well documented. Intense exercise and stress quickly deplete Taurine levels in the muscle. Therefore many researchers now believe that all high-intensity bodybuilders looking to maximize gains in strength and size should include Taurine in their daily supplement regimen. In one study a beverage containing Taurine, simple carbs and caffeine, just like in REPS increased endurance performance in humans (1). In REPS there is also 7 grams of Dextrose which will help in providing energy and keeping your blood sugar levels from dropping to low during physical exercise.

Caffeine has been around for a long time and helps to increase exercise performance, mental focus and provide a short term reduction of fatigue. One study looked at caffeine and its direct effect on the central nervous system and strength gains. In this recent study, 37 men were divided into a caffeine or placebo group. The caffeine group received a supplement that contained approximately 200 mg caffeine and the other group received a placebo. REPS also contains 200 mg of caffeine which is the perfect amount for most individuals. One hour after ingestion of the supplements, each individual was tested for their 1 repetition maximum on the bench press and their total repetitions. The caffeine group demonstrated an increase in maximal bench press strength compared to placebo, and also performed more repetitions using a sub-maximal load. This study shows that when caffeine in the amount of a small cup of coffee is ingested prior to exercise workout performance measured in strength and total lifting capacity are improved (2).

Attached is the Independent Third Party Lab Assay for Taurine.

[spyderman4g63]

anyone ever tried Xpand?

I like it especially the plain with no caffeine. The energized xpand was too much for me. I don't think there is Beta Alanine in it though.

[DinoT1985]

whats so great about it ? just read up on it all i see is BA, CM and CEE.

3g of CM, 2g of BA, 2.5g of Creatine and 2.5g Glycine

That's what makes it great. Ingredients that work really well and in good doses. At 2 scoops, excellent doses giving 6g of CM (expensive ingredient) 4g of BA, 5g of creatine and glycine plus the extras . You dont need fancy new named stuff to make a product great. Anyone whos ever used citrulline malate and beta alanine along with creatine knows how great these ingredients are. Put them together and you have a powerhouse. There's a reason many companies are combining these three.

[NoNameNecessary]

I would recommend one of the REPS Pre-workout flavors by Supplement Direct as it has the two ingredients you are interested in along with many other great ingredients in a full disclosure label. It is on sale now for only $9.99 in the 215g size!

REPS is a innovative pre-workout formula designed to increase performance and work capacity while in the gym, on the field and during periods of sporting competition. REPS works on many different levels within the body, in order to improve work capacity and performance. REPS combines the following ingredients into a powerful and efficient pre-workout intensifier.

An individual who weighs between 201-250 pounds would consume 5 rounded scoops which would result in the following quantity of ingredients being ingested:

Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate.......... 1.5 grams
Creatine Monohydrate................... 4.0 grams
L-Citrulline Malate........................ 3.0 grams
Beta Alanine............................... 3.0 grams
Caffeine..................................... 200 milligrams
Taurine...................................... 4.0 grams
Ribose....................................... 3.0 grams
__________________________________________________ ________
Total......................................... 18.70 grams of active ingredients


There are currently three versions available:

-ELECTRIC LEMONADE (Caffeinated)
-GRAPELICIOUS (Caffeine Free)
-WILD WATERMELLON (Caffeinated)

Supplement Direct felt that it was necessary to offer a Caffeine free pre-workout formula for the following reasons:

-Some individuals train later in the evening or at night and need a caffeine free product.
-Some individuals are currently taking some form of fat burner and do not wish to consume added caffeine.
-Some individuals have allergic reactions to caffeine and or similar stimulants.
-Many customers are disappointed with the current Pre-Workout formulas available and feel that many are just flavored caffeine water. Supplement Direct decided that in the interests of the consumer, it is imperative that they are able to try the formula with out caffeine, in order to truly feel the power of the other 6 ingredients.

Hear is the REPS link on Bodybuilding.com:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sd/reps.html

For a listing of all Supplement Direct Products please click on this link:
http://bodybuilding.com/store/sd/sd.htm

For common questions regarding REPS please click hear:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7604231

Not only does Supplement Direct tests each and every batch of raw material, but they also freely give the laboratories information and copies of the Independent Third Party Lab Assays. Supplement Direct uses the following lab:

San Rafael Chemical Services

2180 E. 4500 S. #125

Salt Lake City, UT. 84117

801-277-8228

You need to relax with this. It is a bit excessive. Posting the entire write-up is not necessary.

I will give you this, though: it looks like a great product and I will be trying it soon.

[Big_Tom(tk)]

I liked Millennium Sports Ragnarok over the N2O.

[Sohan]

Voluplex works well. Keep a look out for BodyForge and CryoShock.

x2 on the voluplex. Looks solid.