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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    it gets extremely boring eating all those eggs i think to. But i would rather/and i feel better, if i eat 4 eggs, and 1 chicken breast at a meal( ill be good for a long time), instead of stuffing 2-3 chicken breat, that doesnt seem to get me going long enough.
    or you could just eat beef or dark meat chicken? Why the chicken breast? So dry and nasty...lol
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    Originally Posted by Starky1177 View Post
    So you and Endingphase are both experiencing the expected water and Glycogen weight loss...
    Starkyyy, we are still looseing so: water/glycogen/fat doesnt matter what we lost its still gone man. =) Still somthing to be proud of!
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    Originally Posted by jg_girl088 View Post
    or you could just eat beef or dark meat chicken? Why the chicken breast? So dry and nasty...lol
    I was saying that as an exeple, why i think Meat diet is harder to do then meat and egg.

    Meat and egg for me = changing meats lol.

    This week breakfast varied always four eggs with either bacon, sausage, or steak

    Lunch, again 4 eggs, with chicken or meatloaf or turkey

    And diner i had 4 eggs again, and steak or fish

    I need to be extremly focused mentally for the "steak and egg". And right now, I am not motivated like last summer. So meat and egg is what i'm doing and varying the meats. And since I eat out every meal, I dont cook, it seems to never get boring this way.
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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    I was saying that as an exeple, why i think Meat diet is harder to do then meat and egg.

    Meat and egg for me = changing meats lol.

    This week breakfast varied always four eggs with either bacon, sausage, or steak

    Lunch, again 4 eggs, with chicken or meatloaf or turkey

    And diner i had 4 eggs again, and steak or fish

    I need to be extremly focused mentally for the "steak and egg". And right now, I am not motivated like last summer. So meat and egg is what i'm doing and varying the meats. And since I eat out every meal, I dont cook, it seems to never get boring this way.

    I see...in your other post you mentioned eggs kept you going for longer, do you think they keep you fuller than meat? The only meats I really eat are beef, chicken, and salmon...not too interested in anything else.

    you eat out every meal, isnt that expensive? lol, where do you eat?
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    Originally Posted by EndingPhase View Post
    Starkyyy, we are still looseing so: water/glycogen/fat doesnt matter what we lost its still gone man. =) Still somthing to be proud of!
    you lose glycogen and water the 1st 2 weeks...But props to ya both
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    Originally Posted by Starky1177 View Post
    you lose glycogen and water the 1st 2 weeks...But props to ya both
    and FAT, and lbm to some extent.....you can't just lose 16 pounds of water and glycogen...
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    Originally Posted by MarkVI View Post
    and FAT, and lbm to some extent.....you can't just lose 16 pounds of water and glycogen...
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    I am a noobie at this and just saw this thread the other day and really liked it. I started on the steak and eggs diet yesterday but have some questions. I do three meals a day and take a multi and fish oil. Any more supplements? I am on a budget.

    I was wondering when preparing the meals what kind of seasonings you can use? or where I can get this info?

    I read that you can go on this diet for as long as you want and carb up if you want. Is this really ok? Also, when you do carb up, is it just for one meal? When should you start thinking about carbing up when you 1st start this diet. Also, how much and when should you carb up in the long-term. Help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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    A multi and fish oil is pretty good. its all i use.
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    Originally Posted by MarkVI View Post
    and FAT, and lbm to some extent.....you can't just lose 16 pounds of water and glycogen...
    Not trying to belittle his gains but..when your 272, 16lb of water/glycogen weight is probably pretty possibly, though im sure there probably has been some fat loss
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    Originally Posted by jg_girl088 View Post
    I see...in your other post you mentioned eggs kept you going for longer, do you think they keep you fuller than meat? The only meats I really eat are beef, chicken, and salmon...not too interested in anything else.

    you eat out every meal, isnt that expensive? lol, where do you eat?
    Yes eggs keep me fuller longer and going longer so thats why even when im sick of them at every meal, its still worth eating them.

    It can be expensive...but i dont make 8$ an hour lol

    This is where i went this weak

    Breakfast -> ihop, dennys, steak and shake, la madelaine

    Lunch -> went all week at tom thumb they have good ready to eat things, lots of choices of meat, and salad bar for the boiled eggs.

    Diner -> I ate once home, raw eggs + steak. Hated having to cook and clean lol. I went to ihop, salt grass steak house, outback steak house, and texas land and catle.

    Like i said in the other post, right now I'm not in the right mind set for this diet. So to make it easy i switch up a lot right now so i never get bored.
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    Originally Posted by Starky1177 View Post
    Not trying to belittle his gains but..when your 272, 16lb of water/glycogen weight is probably pretty possibly, though im sure there probably has been some fat loss
    You ary either negative, or jealous of him, have complex problem. You dont "suddenly" loose 16 pounds of water buddy.

    And me at 189 pounds. I had fat over my abs. The 5 pounds this week already is enough to get them showing a lot more. If it was "water" lose, i would not see them more like i do.
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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    Yes eggs keep me fuller longer and going longer so thats why even when im sick of them at every meal, its still worth eating them.

    It can be expensive...but i dont make 8$ an hour lol

    This is where i went this weak

    Breakfast -> ihop, dennys, steak and shake, la madelaine

    Lunch -> went all week at tom thumb they have good ready to eat things, lots of choices of meat, and salad bar for the boiled eggs.

    Diner -> I ate once home, raw eggs + steak. Hated having to cook and clean lol. I went to ihop, salt grass steak house, outback steak house, and texas land and catle.

    Like i said in the other post, right now I'm not in the right mind set for this diet. So to make it easy i switch up a lot right now so i never get bored.
    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    You ary either negative, or jealous of him, have complex problem. You dont "suddenly" loose 16 pounds of water buddy.

    And me at 189 pounds. I had fat over my abs. The 5 pounds this week already is enough to get them showing a lot more. If it was "water" lose, i would not see them more like i do.
    You lost 5 pounds eating out almost every night?
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    Originally Posted by Andrew69 View Post
    You lost 5 pounds eating out almost every night?
    Damn Jerry!
    I ONLY ate meat and eggs dont forget!

    And obvioulsy breakfast has no carbs. But for diner I also specified no sauce expect butter on my steaks or fish.
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    I do love my eggs and steak being from the mid-west.
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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    I ONLY ate meat and eggs dont forget!

    And obvioulsy breakfast has no carbs. But for diner I also specified no sauce expect butter on my steaks or fish.
    be careful with IHOP they put pancake batter in their omelets to make them "fluffy"
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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    You ary either negative, or jealous of him, have complex problem. You dont "suddenly" loose 16 pounds of water buddy.
    I hate to break it to you guys... but, he is exactly right. On a 275+ lb guy, this is very easily what is happening. I lose more than 10-12 in the first week of dropping carbs at anywhere above 215'ish.

    There was no need for him to be an ass about it and belittle the guy's accomplishments, but, in the interest of the truth... 12-14+ was water.
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    making it 2-4 pounds of fat loss! still not all water lol. I dont care what goes when it goes which goes first fat water, water fat, water water then fat. As long as i am looseing it i am making progress in a positive direction.
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    Originally Posted by jg_girl088 View Post
    be careful with IHOP they put pancake batter in their omelets to make them "fluffy"
    Thansk for the advice, I never know what they put in there scramble egg or omellete at all those places to make them taste so good, so i just stay with over medium eggs when i go there, just to be sure.
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    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    I hate to break it to you guys... but, he is exactly right. On a 275+ lb guy, this is very easily what is happening. I lose more than 10-12 in the first week of dropping carbs at anywhere above 215'ish.

    There was no need for him to be an ass about it and belittle the guy's accomplishments, but, in the interest of the truth... 12-14+ was water.
    The only reason i reacted, is the other guy looks like crap, and hes telling this other guy whos "working on it" and getting results, thats its only water weight and make him worthless. I've never been 275 so I couldn't actually tell you about water/fat weight loss stuff
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    Originally Posted by EndingPhase View Post
    making it 2-4 pounds of fat loss! still not all water lol. I dont care what goes when it goes which goes first fat water, water fat, water water then fat. As long as i am looseing it i am making progress in a positive direction.
    I got your back. Keep up the meat and egg/ steak and egg which ever your doing. the FAT will fall of by magic.
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    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    I got your back. Keep up the meat and egg/ steak and egg which ever your doing. the FAT will fall of by magic.
    Thanks man. Im not worried about it. Even if it is all water it just means im closer to burning that fat off. So to me i use it as fuel to work harder. Everyones imput is considerd no matter how it comes off. Its all good DD66. Thanks man. reps
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    your tellin me I look like crap? I may have no 6 pack but Im still better looking then you or most people! *arrogant F*ck*


    and im not jealous, im just realistic and now how these things work, as do Most of the devout ketoer's, I was trying to be mean, just putting things to perspective
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    Originally Posted by Starky1177 View Post
    your tellin me I look like crap? I may have no 6 pack but Im still better looking then you or most people! *arrogant F*ck*
    No one ever said anyone looked like crap... no need to call people like that.
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    The only reason i reacted, is the other guy looks like crap, and hes telling this other guy whos "working on it" and getting results, thats its only water weight and make him worthless. I've never been 275 so I couldn't actually tell you about water/fat weight loss stuff
    Originally Posted by Black_Spit View Post
    There was no need for him to be an ass about it and belittle the guy's accomplishments, but, in the interest of the truth... 12-14+ was water.
    Originally Posted by DD66 View Post
    You ary either negative, or jealous of him, have complex problem. You dont "suddenly" loose 16 pounds of water buddy.

    And me at 189 pounds. I had fat over my abs. The 5 pounds this week already is enough to get them showing a lot more. If it was "water" lose, i would not see them more like i do.
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    your tellin me I look like crap? I may have no 6 pack but Im still better looking then you or most people! *arrogant F*ck*

    and im not jealous, im just realistic and now how these things work, as do Most of the devout ketoer's, I was trying to be mean, just putting things to perspective
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    Originally Posted by jaim91 View Post
    K...everyone let's be friends again

    Start by repping the person who posted above you For serious! It's all good on the keto board.
    Alright sounds good lol.
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    i am not familiar with Keto, but this sounds reasonable and delicious.

    maybe i should read some more about this
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    Originally Posted by Ugabuga View Post
    i am not familiar with Keto, but this sounds reasonable and delicious.

    maybe i should read some more about this
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    Originally Posted by Ugabuga View Post
    i am not familiar with Keto, but this sounds reasonable and delicious.
    Read the stickies, but the short version is that keto is a high fat, moderate protein, low carb diet. It's based on fresh meat, fish, chicken, whole eggs, lots of green veg, and some nuts, seeds, olive oil, cheese, butter and cream to fill the gaps. No sugar, flour, grains, milk, fruit, root veg and absolutely no processed food or junk carbs.

    Although it sounds like a recipe for obesity leading to a heart attack, it produces consistent fat loss, and usually an improvement in blood pressure, cholesterol reading, triglycerides levels, and general health. Many people who are on medication for diabetics, high cholesterol, blood pressure, PCOS and other issues find that on keto, they improve to the point of being able to go off medication.
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    thx cool i read some sticky threads too, i get the idea now.

    But.. this Steak & Eggs version sounds like the best way to go.

    questions:

    - Do i have to prepare myself somehow before starting keto?

    - I think i also read here that its ok to sometimes cheat with some keto food right?

    - With S&E, do i still get to do the weekend carb thing?

    - One of the sticky threads mentioned that i shouldnt have fats on work out days. is this true? because i work out every day.

    - Should i change my work out routines? Some said cardio isnt needed anymore?

    - And, dang ~12 eggs seems like alot. How do you eat these? I mean i usually eat my eggs with bread. But from what i understand im not alowed to eat bread?

    thank you
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