u think bruce lee could really beat up the ufc guys i highly doubt it-guys like matt huhghes, frank shamrock, or even any of the heavy wegihts like randy couture- the 6 feet 2 guys 240. i mean these guys are not just skilled ,but also very big and strong too.
bruce was skilled ,but he wasn;t that big of a guy. hes more like a featherweight.
i now for sure he won;t be able to beat up the heavy wieghts,maybe at most the middle weights and thats like barely. . he proably he good in featherweight and lighweight, but anything over that he bail out. the guys are just too big and strong and also very skilled.
what do u guys think
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03-21-2008, 11:16 PM #1
bruce lee couldn;t beat the UFC guys-he too small
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03-21-2008, 11:45 PM #4
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And this is in response to........?
Not only does like, NOBODY on this board think that Bruce could actually beat a modern day mixed martial artist, but when you start talking about people who greatly outweigh him and are ALSO skilled, then you are pretty much just making a moot point.
I'm not sure if you're just trying to start a conversation or not, so if you are, sorry if I seem a bit short.
But you're right and I agree--Lee would get Pwned.
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03-21-2008, 11:59 PM #9
.......this arguement is stupid...that's like saying..."I bet the U.S. Marines could own the Roman empire...I don't see what's the hype about the Rome empire as being so tough."
Lets face it..Bruce Lee would never fight in UFC/MMA for that matter..he'd be too rich and could care less. However one can assume modern day Lee would adapt to MMA..after all he was the pioneer of MMA with JKD. Before him everyone stuck to 1 martial arts.
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03-22-2008, 01:52 AM #17
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This is an overly discussed topic, I was hoping these threads had gone quiet.
I think its safe to say that these Bruce Lee fanboys who think Bruce to be have been unbeatable have been outnumbered on more than 1 occassion. He was a brilliant martial artist, an intellectual, an actor and a teacher with insane physical abilities, but to pit him against much heavier, harder and more aggressive fighters with much more serious fighting experience would be a no-no. Sure, he may have a chance, but I think the UFC dude would just want to close the gap and quickly. The one inch punch only worked as the guy was standing there waiting, in a controlled situation. I haven't followed Bruce's fights and don't know all of his opponents, but I'm pretty certain he only fought within his comfort zone. He would not have the body to withstand the punishment a heavy weight pounder would deal out. What if Bruce Lee was jumped in the street by 3 200lb men?, Sure size isn't everything, but would he be able to rock and roll on the spot, to fight off the attackers? Some ppl look at his films and think thats how a real life fight would go down, '1 kick and your down' kinda thing.
There was some Bruce Lee vs Mike Tyson thread on another website with around 150 responses. Interesting read, but ultimately the BL fanboys were just spinning off stats and quotes from various martial artists of the day. The pro-Tyson arguers were just using common sense and reason, the guy has give or take 100lbs on Bruce, and isn't just some street bum either, he has speed, agility and a proven fight record. Outside the ring Lee would be the better man, but inside the ring it'd be carnage."Honor is something that all men are born with. It cannot be taken from you nor can it be granted. It must only not be lost."
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03-22-2008, 02:08 AM #18
I agree with some of what you said, but, just to clear up a few things:
I wouldn't just automatically state that another fighter is "more aggressive", and a professional fighting record does not necessarily equate to "more experience". Bruce Lee had an extraordinarily innovative mind, and the way he intertwined his philosophy with his martial arts, if you know what his feelings on them are, would make me very reluctant to call another fighter simply "more aggressive" because I've observed their aggression in the ring first-hand (e.g. Mike Tyson, as you brought up). Bruce Lee's state of mind that he fought out of was one of complete calm, peace, and contemplation. His style of fighting would was not out of fear or misplaced aggression. Rather, it was calm, collected, methodical, and reactive to the specific situation and opponent. In other words, his aggression would be reactive to the situation and depend on what he saw as the surest path to victory. If his opponent were too aggressive, he would take advantage of that, too.
That was really just for a display of power rather than as an actual technique for use in a fight. The idea of MMA is to build your arsenal and use what you have as the situation presents itself.
He actually won the 1958 Hong Kong boxing championships by entering as a random nobody and knocking every single person out, including the reigning champion. This was on a whim when he was around 18 or so, I believe, when he just sort of felt like "testing" himself.
Well, testimony from legitimate sources are legitimate forms of evidence. That's the way we obtain information about things that we were not there to witness ourselves (obviously), and are basic methods of piecing together history and methods of demonstrating legally-relevant evidence. Not to mention, his ideas about fighting, revolutionary and spot-on correct, could not have come about without a great understanding of fighting itself and is a display of a man of incredible talent. Knowing his speed, his power, and his ideas on the martial arts allows one to piece together a valid conclusion about Bruce Lee that would state he would've been a phenomenal fighter were he around and competing during a time when MMA was widespread and organized.Last edited by godzillaballs; 03-22-2008 at 02:24 AM.
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Common sense says no 150lbs man could beat the world's best 250lbs men in unarmed combat. The reason it comes up so often is that so many people like to believe in myths, magic and the Easter Bunny.
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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03-22-2008, 03:13 AM #21
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Bruce lee is like the ninja's, - Overhyped
When people of think of ninjas they think they were these cool looking guys who could run over water, catch sword blades with their bare hands and leap 15ft in the air when thats just not true.
When people think of bruce lee they think hes one of the worlds toughest fighters and could of kicked the sht out of anyone in his prime, which also isnt true.
Bruce lee was anorexic, he was a well dicipined decent man but theres no way he is or was ever one of the best fighters in the world.
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03-22-2008, 03:48 AM #23
Bruce Lee could shoot fuking fireballs out of his feet and acid out of his eyes. He could also fly around in space.
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03-22-2008, 04:08 AM #25
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Seriously? Man, what about Bruce Lee the MAN, not the legend, do you see as being able to beat up, let's see, even Georges St. Pierre?
I know about all the great feats of muscular endurance and the spectacular philosophies and whatever that he had, but GSP knows how to kickbox, box and twist people into pretzels, while avoiding having the same done to him.
Lee was popular at the start of the standup, Karate-type generation of hype. Just because there is a picture of him putting a loose-ass armbar on some guy, people act like he was a black belt in some mystical form of BJJ.
Bruce was a pioneer and led an interesting life--but he'd get smashed within five minutes.
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03-22-2008, 06:04 AM #27
This quote should be stickied everywhere...
James DeMile: Aloha Kevin, I never get tired of reflecting on my time with Bruce because there were only a few of us who have the memories that are part of his Legacy. I was a heavyweight boxer in the Air Force. Over a four year period I had over a hundred fights and never lost one. I had a very big ego and perceived myself as the toughtest man alive. I was 5ft 10inches and weighted 225. I could knock a man out with either hand. Then I met a small 135 lb 5 ft 7 kid who believed his martial arts could beat anyone. I decided to explain the reality of fighting to him and proceded to show him what street fighting was all about. Needless to say I learned humility in about 5 seconds. He not only stopped me cold, but tied me up in such a way that he could hit me at will and the only thing I could do about it was... nothing. Later I reviewed all my previous skills, including boxing and threw all of it out as it was impractical against Bruce's skills.... Bruce knew he could be hurt if he got hit, that is why he believed a street fight should not last over two seconds and his personal skills were designed for that attitde. I am very opinionated and willing to discuss with anyone my belief in why Bruce was the best fighter I ever knew. And I still feel that way, 42 years later.
Bruce was the best street fighter I ever knew. Not pound for pound, but against anyone in a street fight. People do not understand what Bruce did in a real fight. They relate his skills to the movies or JKD.Last edited by Chook Legs; 03-22-2008 at 06:13 AM.
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03-22-2008, 06:05 AM #28
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03-22-2008, 06:14 AM #29
http://www.cityonfire.com/unknown/in...mile/index.htm
you can always email James Demile if you want clarification.
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03-22-2008, 06:32 AM #30
OMG...
Bruce was one of the fastest martial arts. He developed a system of superior strength and such. His muscles were small but he was incredibly powerful.
Would he beat MMA fighters?
Think about it logically...if they stood there and traded punch-for-punch, Bruce Lee would do significant damage. He showed he he launched men twice his size 6 feet across the room with single punches.
Put him in a ring with a top MMA fighter and it's a different story. It would take a big guy to grab his head, knee to the face and I can almost assure you Lee would be knocked out on the floor.
He was an amazing fighter and in some circumstances he would win IMO. Then in others he wouldn't.
It goes on the circumstance. Lee's style was a deadly art. **** you use in defence...
IMO he could deliver a blow that could kill MMA fighters but then again they could rip his head off literally.
No for or against. Circumstances and how the fight is played out makes the difference.
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