Fish oils or glucosamine?

**Super_Kaioken** · 03-21-2008, 05:20 AM

I do alot of running, i need something good for the joints for future preference

which of these do u recommend? thanks

**in10city** · 03-21-2008, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by Super_Kaioken

I do alot of running, i need something good for the joints for future preference

which of these do u recommend? thanks

Why the binary thinking? Why not both? Why not consider Cissus, Chondroitin, & MSM as well?

Megadosing fish oil for preventative joint support isn't wise.

**Super_Kaioken** · 03-21-2008, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by in10city

Why the binary thinking? Why not both? Why not consider Cissus, Chondroitin, & MSM as well?

Megadosing fish oil for preventative joint support isn't wise.

because ive never heard of them ones lol

i dont plan on MEGADOSING fish oils man, whyd you say that?

even if i only took them then id only have it once whenever i go for a run

3-5 times a week.

is glucosamine better ???????? i heard it freezes joints rather than ''liquify'' them like fish oils

**in10city** · 03-21-2008, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Super_Kaioken

because ive never heard of them ones lol

i dont plan on MEGADOSING fish oils man, whyd you say that?

even if i only took them then id only have it once whenever i go for a run

3-5 times a week.

is glucosamine better ???????? i heard it freezes joints rather than ''liquify'' them like fish oils

I said that because you need to take a good amount of fish oil to reap the benefits.

I think you've been hearing things that are not necessarily true.

Look into hydrolyzed collagen, Vit-C, Curcumin, Quercetin, & Bromelain as well.

**Mad_Mike** · 03-21-2008, 06:27 AM

I don't believe there is strong evidence out there to support glucosamine/MSM as actually doing anything. There is a lot of evidence that fish oils are good for general health so I'd go with them.

**digitalgoodtime** · 03-21-2008, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by in10city

I said that because you need to take a good amount of fish oil to reap the benefits.

I think you've been hearing things that are not necessarily true.

Look into hydrolyzed collagen, Vit-C, Curcumin, Quercetin, & Bromelain as well.

in10city, do u use fish oil? If yes, how much per day? just curious...

**Hotmoltenlava** · 03-21-2008, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mad_Mike

I don't believe there is strong evidence out there to support glucosamine/MSM as actually doing anything.

Wrong, according to all the reputable sources below, including NIH, Mayo Clinic, Journal of Athletic Training on Pubmed. I also do a lot of running. I take glucosamine\chondroitin, along with fish oil daily.

According to the results of the NIH study:

"participants with moderate-to-severe pain, glucosamine combined with chondroitin sulfate provided significant pain relief compared with placebo."

According to the Journal of Athletic Training on Pubmed:

"Clinical studies indicate that glucosamine sulfate has been shown to be a safe and relatively effective treatment."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/glu...nt-glucosamine
http://nccam.nih.gov/research/results/gait/qa.htm
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...i?artid=155438

**Super_Kaioken** · 03-21-2008, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hotmoltenlava

Wrong, according to all the reputable sources below, including NIH, Mayo Clinic, Journal of Athletic Training on Pubmed. I also do a lot of running. I take glucosamine\chondroitin, along with fish oil daily.

According to the results of the NIH study:

"participants with moderate-to-severe pain, glucosamine combined with chondroitin sulfate provided significant pain relief compared with placebo."

According to the Journal of Athletic Training on Pubmed:

"Clinical studies indicate that glucosamine sulfate has been shown to be a safe and relatively effective treatment."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/glu...nt-glucosamine
http://nccam.nih.gov/research/results/gait/qa.htm
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...i?artid=155438

if i run 4 times a week
how much fish oil and glucoseamine shud i take and when?

**Hotmoltenlava** · 03-21-2008, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Super_Kaioken

if i run 4 times a week
how much fish oil and glucoseamine shud i take and when?

I run 5-6 times a week for about 35-40 miles. Currently training for a mini-marathon in early May. I have no joint pain. At 230lbs, that is saying something.....unless I just have good joints.....

I don't know what the optimal level for you would be, but I find taking 3 pills of fish oil twice a day and a dose and a half of the gluc\chond a day works well. I have heard of people taking twice or three times the level of fish oil that I take, but I am not sure upping the gluc\chond would do any good. Both are pretty cheap, if you shop around. The local drugstores run buy one get one sales about once a month. I can get a 6 month supply for around $30 for all.....just noticed you are in Britain, so that probably doesn't apply....

**Super_Kaioken** · 03-21-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hotmoltenlava

I run 5-6 times a week for about 35-40 miles. Currently training for a mini-marathon in early May. I have no joint pain. At 230lbs, that is saying something.....unless I just have good joints.....

I don't know what the optimal level for you would be, but I find taking 3 pills of fish oil twice a day and a dose and a half of the gluc\chond a day works well. I have heard of people taking twice or three times the level of fish oil that I take, but I am not sure upping the gluc\chond would do any good. Both are pretty cheap, if you shop around. The local drugstores run buy one get one sales about once a month. I can get a 6 month supply for around $30 for all.....just noticed you are in Britain, so that probably doesn't apply....

cool man. yeah i run alot too. i love running, its one of my specialties and i want to look after this speciality by taking stuff for my joints

these fish oils though, if i take one of them and one glucosamine before the run then maybe one fish oil later on in the day would that be okay still??

cos im taking enough supplements in a day as it is, i will prolly die of overdose with all the tablets im taking

e.g. amino, l-carnatine, flaxseed as well

**in10city** · 03-21-2008, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by digitalgoodtime

in10city, do u use fish oil? If yes, how much per day? just curious...

Yes... Right now I'm consuming ~ 1000mg EPA/DHA... I need to keep it on the low side now due to other supplements ...

When I said a "good amount of fish oil to reap the benefits", that was referring to theraputic benefits above and beyond general health benefits... which would be upwards and over 3-4+ grams EPA/DHA.

**power515** · 03-21-2008, 07:59 AM

FISH OIL - that doesn't give you acid reflux, fish oil is a natural anti-
inflammatory
COLLAGEN - type II
GLUCOSAMINE HCL - it's absorbed better than Glucosamine Sulfate

You can also experiment with CISSUS QUADRANGULARIS, Devil's Claw, Boswellin and Hyaluronic Acid.

**Lemonzest** · 03-21-2008, 08:46 AM

yeah dont go mega dosing the fish oil, it can increase SHBG and suppress hormones like test :S i found out myself the hard way. took a few weeks to fix it.

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