Chronic nausea and GERD

mmmcookiesnmilk · 03-20-2008, 09:52 PM

Does anyone else have trouble with this? I've had it for about 5 years now and been on just about every medication out there. Prilosec mitigates my symptoms but it's becoming more and more out of control, to the point where I don't think I've had one non sick day in the last month

I just feel nauseous all day long and it is seriously starting to wear on me. Anyone else dealing with this?

amy78 · 03-20-2008, 10:27 PM

I can relate. I have had a lot of digestive issues, they were never found to have a cause.
I have been on potent digestive enzymes as well as Probiotics for about a month now and hardly ever suffer symptoms now.
I would see a Naturopath if you haven't already... sometimes doctors can't see it all and natural therapies can deal with the issues.
I know how bad it can be, I hope the above works for you.

Oh.. and I was taking Nexxium for ages and it wasn't really working as well as the above.

mmmcookiesnmilk · 03-20-2008, 10:48 PM

thanks hun. I did try probiotics for a few months and didn't find any benefits unfortunately. yeah I feel the same, I feel like the doctors weren't really sure what was wrong with me so they just try to treat the symptoms. I'm going to work on keeping a more strict diet, hopefully that will give me a bit of relief

amy78 · 03-20-2008, 11:26 PM

The probiotics aren't what work for me, it is the digestive enzymes.
I had it explained to me by a Naturopath I went to see 3 months ago.
Some people have problems breaking down dairy/wheat or may not have enough stomach acid, or too much, etc. Digestive enzymes you take before each meal (3x day) and it assists your body in breaking down the enzymes.
I had all kinds of tests, I am talking 10+ tests and medically all were fine, enzymes are not really a part of a doctor's plan, so you may need to look outside that.
If you haven't tried it, I would give it a go, nothing to lose, but everything to gain. Life can suck with GERD....

mmmcookiesnmilk · 03-20-2008, 11:38 PM

which enzymes specifically are you taking? I thought I had taken those as well, but I'm not completely sure... may be worth a try again. It almost feels like some kind of food allergy to me. I also read something about avoiding sugar and I noticed that it has gotten worse as I've been eating more sugar, so I'm going to try to minimize that and see if it helps.

danapetersen · 03-20-2008, 11:53 PM

Hello,

I would go back to the gastro. I've suffered from gerd etc and tried all the same meds as you. It did get better after I had my gallbladder removed this last summer, although I do still suffer from it. I try to stay on top of the meds and carry tums. It can get bad if I eat to closely to exercise.

I know eating clean helps me. Probably one of the major factors I do eat clean. If I eat anything, others would consider "normal", I get ill and literally have to stay home! Eating small meals help too.

Things I know upset some with Gerd:
Chocolate
Chewing gum
Caffeine
Spices
Drinking fluids with your meals (solid)
Alcohol etc.....
Eating before bed

Oh and sleeping flat. Have you tried sleeping on a small incline with your head elevated?

Anyway, hope I helped if only a bit!

Dana

amy78 · 03-21-2008, 02:54 AM

Try Zymax. (Dig. Enzymes)

Npeart · 03-21-2008, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mmmcookiesnmilk

thanks hun. I did try probiotics for a few months and didn't find any benefits unfortunately. yeah I feel the same, I feel like the doctors weren't really sure what was wrong with me so they just try to treat the symptoms. I'm going to work on keeping a more strict diet, hopefully that will give me a bit of relief

Nexium???

mmmcookiesnmilk · 03-21-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by danapetersen

Hello,

I would go back to the gastro. I've suffered from gerd etc and tried all the same meds as you. It did get better after I had my gallbladder removed this last summer, although I do still suffer from it. I try to stay on top of the meds and carry tums. It can get bad if I eat to closely to exercise.

I know eating clean helps me. Probably one of the major factors I do eat clean. If I eat anything, others would consider "normal", I get ill and literally have to stay home! Eating small meals help too.

Things I know upset some with Gerd:
Chocolate
Chewing gum
Caffeine
Spices
Drinking fluids with your meals (solid)
Alcohol etc.....
Eating before bed

Oh and sleeping flat. Have you tried sleeping on a small incline with your head elevated?

Anyway, hope I helped if only a bit!

Dana

Thanks Dana. Of all those, the only 2 I'm doing are spices and fluids w/ meals (haven't heard of that being bad before). I drink alcohol maybe once a week and in moderation, though that has been hard to stick with! I just added an incline to my bed and started sleeping on my left side, we'll see how that helps. Argh took all my sleeping meds in concert this morning and they made me half fall asleep at work

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Originally Posted by amy78

Try Zymax. (Dig. Enzymes)

are you sure? I googled it and it says it's a weight loss supplement. It contains ephedra, which makes my stomach feel awful.

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Originally Posted by Npeart

Nexium???

have tried it already, it worked about as well as Prilosec, which is cheaper. Thanks though.

danapetersen · 03-21-2008, 02:37 PM

LOL.....about the sleep meds. I have done! embarassing.One time at work with Ambien. Another time just took too much Seroquel the night before, after also forgetting I had a few glasses of wine. Glad the sleeping med days are over for me.

amy78 · 03-21-2008, 02:47 PM

Def not a weight loss supplement... maybe not sold outside Australia...

Let me get the bottle....ok... Zymax, DPPIV & PEP type activities.
Contains: Protease (DPPIV, PEP), Bromelain, Amylase, Lipase, Lactase.
Zymax is formualted to enhance digestion, support nutrient uptake, intestional health by reducing the exposure to potentially toxic peptides and impact of incomplete digestion of dairy/ wheat products.
It says it is made in Australia, but I am sure there is something similar in USA.

I can totally empathise with you on the GERD, I had tried all kinds of medicines and nothing really worked, but these have kept it all in check, alcohol, chocolate, sugar etc makes it worse, so I have now worked out how to keep it at bay with reducing those things and taking these....

Good Luck!

fabulous-farha · 04-06-2008, 10:36 AM

yes, i had the same thing. i went to a gastro who prescribed nexium and something else (can't remember), but i hate taking any drug, so i then went to an ayurvedic physician from india. he gave me herbs which relieved my symptoms COMPLETELY within 2 days!! (he also diagnosed me without even asking me about any symptoms, just by running his hand in front of my body!!!!) i was so stunned i almost fell off the table! i highly recommend dr. dube and dr. sumita.

www.amritaveda.com

also, buy goat milk, and heat it up on the stove. it is very healing and soothing to the entire digestive system. i have a quart a day, with some walnuts, as a meal.

Npeart · 04-06-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmcookiesnmilk

Does anyone else have trouble with this? I've had it for about 5 years now and been on just about every medication out there. Prilosec mitigates my symptoms but it's becoming more and more out of control, to the point where I don't think I've had one non sick day in the last month

I just feel nauseous all day long and it is seriously starting to wear on me. Anyone else dealing with this?

It only happens to me when I read one of Kalagan's posts.

amy78 · 04-06-2008, 07:24 PM

They did iridology on me to work out my issues. Natural therapy is best IMO on this type of thing.

Dangerousd37 · 04-06-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmcookiesnmilk

Does anyone else have trouble with this? I've had it for about 5 years now and been on just about every medication out there. Prilosec mitigates my symptoms but it's becoming more and more out of control, to the point where I don't think I've had one non sick day in the last month

I just feel nauseous all day long and it is seriously starting to wear on me. Anyone else dealing with this?

I have stomach issues as well. Certain things upset my stomach and I've learned to stay away from them. Do you eat before bed? Do you sleep flat or with your headup? What is your diet like? Exercising like?
Sometimes certain acidy foods that are healthy like oranges can upset a sensistive stomach. Keep a real close eye on what your eating and write down what if any reactions ( ie dizzy or nauseaus). See if there is a common link so if you have to go see a dr. you already have your ducks in a row. See if its a certain time of day and what you ate or did before the dizziness or nauseau came on. Just some suggestions. All the best of luck :O)

valby · 04-07-2008, 12:53 AM

Hi, I have this problem. I have had every test under the sun. I would get severe vomiting attacks too. Turns out it could have been the BCP i was on (yasmin). I take Nexium, but it takes a while to work for me.

MJK · 04-07-2008, 06:17 PM

I'm suffering also, Bumping it up to see if we can get more info.

mmmcookiesnmilk · 04-07-2008, 09:15 PM

wow guys, thanks for all the responses. I'm still struggling but I have it a bit more under control. I found out that not eating 3 hours before bed really helps! I was even able to have 4 drinks and only feel mildly sick the next day, on two occasions! also I really need to lay off the spicy food, although I love it so much. still feeling sick every single day but it's a bit milder. I've also doubled my dose of Prilosec (approved by dr) and am taking Metoclopramide again, though I'm not sure how much either of those changes help. something is working though and I don't want to mess with it.

Val- thanks for the suggestion but that's not my problem. I think I may try Nexium again. I finally have an appointment set up to get a referral to get an appointment to see a gastroenterologist (wow that sounds kind've loopy lol).

Amy- I have tried quite a lot of the natural remedies, unfortunately none have really helped except for diet modification.

Fabulous- what a great experience. I'm afraid it's not for me though, I've been to a naturopath and tried that stuff. and actually nuts seem to make me more sick. not sure about the goats milk, but hey how about cows? lol. thank you.

Dangerous- yes I'm doing all the proper modifications. I've had my bed head up for about 2 weeks and haven't really felt much benefit from that and it feels so ridiculous.. diet is good but I love the spicy stuff, so now I'm trying to avoid that. exercise about 3x a week (if I'm not feeling sick). I have been keeping mental track of food reactions but I would like to do an actual journal, thanks for all the good suggestions.

Dangerousd37 · 04-08-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mmmcookiesnmilk

wow guys, thanks for all the responses. I'm still struggling but I have it a bit more under control. I found out that not eating 3 hours before bed really helps! I was even able to have 4 drinks and only feel mildly sick the next day, on two occasions! also I really need to lay off the spicy food, although I love it so much. still feeling sick every single day but it's a bit milder. I've also doubled my dose of Prilosec (approved by dr) and am taking Metoclopramide again, though I'm not sure how much either of those changes help. something is working though and I don't want to mess with it.

Val- thanks for the suggestion but that's not my problem. I think I may try Nexium again. I finally have an appointment set up to get a referral to get an appointment to see a gastroenterologist (wow that sounds kind've loopy lol).

Amy- I have tried quite a lot of the natural remedies, unfortunately none have really helped except for diet modification.

Fabulous- what a great experience. I'm afraid it's not for me though, I've been to a naturopath and tried that stuff. and actually nuts seem to make me more sick. not sure about the goats milk, but hey how about cows? lol. thank you.

Dangerous- yes I'm doing all the proper modifications. I've had my bed head up for about 2 weeks and haven't really felt much benefit from that and it feels so ridiculous.. diet is good but I love the spicy stuff, so now I'm trying to avoid that. exercise about 3x a week (if I'm not feeling sick). I have been keeping mental track of food reactions but I would like to do an actual journal, thanks for all the good suggestions.

For me it was the spicy and oily stuff that really did me in.. so I stay away from it now and just have an occasional spicy or oily thing. Like I love oranges & OJ and had to give it up because as much as I liked it my stomach didn't. I'm on metocloprimide too. For me it was the only one that did work. Having stomach issues is tough because you have to for go foods you like- even healthy ones. Another thing to look at is to make sure you're eating enough for your body... otherwise your stomach acids will start coming up ( sorry to be gross there). Also some vegetables, caffeine, mints, coffee, spicy foods, acidy or oily foods.. really trigger it. I have found for me atleast when it gets bad the only things that help are milk and if its too bad a lil visit to the bathroom with tons of water. Its just a process of iding the culprits and limiting them or eliminating them. For everyone its different- some can handle spicy and not acidy and others the other way around.

MJK · 04-09-2008, 05:05 PM

Here is what happened to me.

I was violently sick on Jan 3rd, and every day from there on out I felt nauseous and have a very upset stomach. I went to the doctor and they first tested me for a stomach ulcer. The text was negative. Then I got a G.E.D, were they put a scope in my stomach and took a biopsy, biopsy was negative, and the scope only showed a slightly ulcerated stomach. After a week the doc said I should be fine. Wrong still problems. I then got my gallbladder checked, and it is fine. Then I got a blood test to see if I had bacteria in my stomach acid, which came back negative. Just this pass week I had a hida scan to test the function of my gallbladder, I?ll have the results tomorrow. Some times the nausea is so bad I can only sit in bed with a bucket by my side.

I first was given Prilosec, and then I tried Nexium, that gave me really bad head aches and made me very fatigued. Now I?m taking Tagamet twice a day. It seems to help some, but I still have problems during the day. It can come on hours after I eat, or even right after I eat.

Beef, Caffeine, Bacon, and spicy foods to a certain degree bother me. I take Maalox when I get a flare up and it seems to help some. When I'm at work I take Rolaids. Have a ton in my pocket just in case. This stuff sucks badly.

I've lost about 10 pounds due to this problem, can't eat much, and I can only lift weights a couple times a week, makes it hard to gain any back.

mmmcookiesnmilk · 04-09-2008, 07:25 PM

^^wow that sounds awful

Dangerous- good to hear about the metoclopramide, I will be better about taking it, the only problem is it makes me so sleepy! I'm doing my homework now too to find out more about what triggers it other than the obvious alcohol, pain relievers and caffiene.

my doc ordered a full workup again, I'll be going in for another endoscopy, ultrasound and something to check gallbladder. I really wish they would just find out what it is! that would be so nice because then we could figure out how to treat it!

MJK · 04-10-2008, 02:57 PM

Whats does the Endoscopy check? Also is the ultrasound of your gallbladder or somthing else?

MJK · 04-14-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MJK

Whats does the Endoscopy check? Also is the ultrasound of your gallbladder or somthing else?

??????????

mmmcookiesnmilk · 04-14-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MJK

Whats does the Endoscopy check? Also is the ultrasound of your gallbladder or somthing else?

I don't have much time to reply now, but when in doubt wikipedia it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endoscopy

and yes the ultrasound is to check my gallbladder.

Thuirwyne · 04-14-2008, 04:00 PM

Endoscopy
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/gastr...article_em.htm

I've had GERD every since I was a kid. I seemed to grow out of it, but over the last year I started experiencing heart burn often and nausea more often.

One great night I did EVERYTHING wrong. Ate spicy fried chicken, had a Pinktini (vodka w/caffeine), took some motrin with a huge glass of cold water (promptly threw that up), and then ate some peppermints...(that was the kicker; I started throwing up violently, and it didn't look right), so it ended up that I had a peptic ulcer and it had ruptured with all the wrong stuff and it was bleeding a little...UGH.

Prilosec, no alcohol, laid off the chocolate, spices, etc. Moderate help, but I find that if I take 2 ginger capsules with meals, all is well.

Dangerousd37 · 04-15-2008, 09:17 PM

The other thing I thought of today for your problem.... what supplements are you taking?? For me some protein drinks and bars don't sit right. Additionally, I heard that some oils are good for you. So, stupidly I took a couple of oils in pill form and it did a job on my stomach. When I take my multi-vitamin I have to take it with a good solid starchy carb like bread or it upsets my stomach.

MJK · 04-19-2008, 05:46 PM

Anybody have any problems with creatine?

SupaFly78 · 04-28-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dangerousd37

The other thing I thought of today for your problem.... what supplements are you taking?? For me some protein drinks and bars don't sit right.

Exactly, I looked on her profile and one of the supplements she's taking is MuscleMilk light, which contains Casein Protein and Lactose, she may very well be lactose intolerant and not even know it.

missmarina · 04-29-2008, 11:51 AM

I've had GERD since i was 10(atleast thats when my test results came back) And I was taking meds for years, But i stopped taking them. its like pulling teeth to get me to take one pill. Id rather cut my big toe off or sell my first born. I still suffer from it of course, But i cant complain as much since I refuse to take the meds.

People seem to blow it off like its not "real' and its all in ur "head" atleast thats what I have gotten from family and friends my entire life.

Verti-gal · 04-29-2008, 03:51 PM

I used to have a lot of stomach issues, Acid reflux, bleeding uclers, nausea, you name it. They ran all the tests on me and didn't find a thing, they just chalked it up to stress. Well last June I had a food antigen test run and it turned out I'm allergic to 33 foods. I subsequently figured out that I was eating 7 foods I was allergic to before 8am every morning while I was training, no wonder I was miserable.

So I really had to adjust my diet since then and that's how I got into eating clean. My diet is extremely limited now, but I feel 100 times better now. The bleeding uclers are gone, no more acid reflux, no more nausea, no more bowel problems. And my allergies weren't just the typical foods you think of like peanuts, almonds, and soy. Mine include lettuce, bananas, broccoli, asparagus, brussel sprouts, eggplant, avocado, kidney beans, blue cheese, bakers yeast, brewers yeast, barley, grapes, strawberries, blueberries, cinnamon, nutmeg and cloves. So I have trouble with the alcohol too, but I now know exactly why.

So try to journal everything you eat and see if you can pick up any patterns from there. You may be able to pinpoint them if there aren't that many. Since you already think its food related, I'd recommend seeing an allergist and getting tested for food allergies. There are so many ways food allergies can manifest themselves and knowing what your allergic to is priceless.