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    Nootropics... Anyone experimented with them, what do you recommend?

    Hello, Im currently using DMAE and choline, i have some piracetam, but have only tried it 3 times, and didnt really feel anything. Anyone have any recommendations for experimenting? As long as its legal for athletes to take ill be interested.
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    Piracetam has to build up in your system, gotta take it every day, not just every once in a while.
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    Pir is a waste in my personal experience, but it's only per my use.

    Aniracetam & sulbutiamine is my go to stack.


    Oxi is next on my to try.
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    Anyone try Noopept ?
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    Aniracetam & sulbutiamine is my go to stack.
    i forget who recommended sulbutiamine but that stuff is good. take it once or twice a week after i work overnight and it really helps to wipe away fatigue and help me to blast through work. i stack it with caff-free focus xt.
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    Originally Posted by warbird00 View Post
    Piracetam has to build up in your system, gotta take it every day, not just every once in a while.
    Daily for 2-3 months may give you some benefit
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    Originally Posted by Bifidobacterium View Post
    Anyone try Noopept ?
    Give it a search. There's a big thread on it.
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    Originally Posted by kevin1st View Post
    i forget who recommended sulbutiamine but that stuff is good. take it once or twice a week after i work overnight and it really helps to wipe away fatigue and help me to blast through work. i stack it with caff-free focus xt.
    One of my favourite stimulants. How are you dosing it now?

    Show any signs of tolerance yet?
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    Originally Posted by ChrisG12 View Post
    One of my favourite stimulants. How are you dosing it now?

    Show any signs of tolerance yet?
    only taking it once, maybe twice a week. 400mg.
    took 600mg. and got mildly euphoric and slightly anxious so i stick with 400mg. for now stacked with a scoop of caff-free focus xt. no tolerance yet - probably because i take it so infrequently?
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    Originally Posted by kevin1st View Post
    only taking it once, maybe twice a week. 400mg.
    took 600mg. and got mildly euphoric and slightly anxious so i stick with 400mg. for now stacked with a scoop of caff-free focus xt. no tolerance yet - probably because i take it so infrequently?
    Ah, thats good. I missed the part where you only take it that often in the first post.

    Definitely keep to that. I did 5 or 6 days in a row, and not only did a tolerance build up quickly, but the withdrawal was painful. DOn't think I've ever had a headache like that before.
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    Originally Posted by ChrisG12 View Post
    Definitely keep to that. I did 5 or 6 days in a row, and not only did a tolerance build up quickly, but the withdrawal was painful. DOn't think I've ever had a headache like that before.
    ahhhh good looking out!
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    Originally Posted by neddo View Post
    Pir is a waste in my personal experience, but it's only per my use.

    Aniracetam & sulbutiamine is my go to stack.


    Oxi is next on my to try.
    How is aniracetam? dose it inhibit the ability to get to sleep? I heard there are some stronger versions or piracetam out there.
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    Hold on, I think I Diesel0022 has posted his thoughts on the various racetams elsewhere -- I'll try to find it.

    Ani >>>>>>>>>> Pir

    Hasn't affected my sleeping.

    Piracetam - ****
    Imuracetam - Nil effect
    Aniracetam - Favorite Daily Racetam when price/efficacy comes into play
    Oxiracetam - Nothing Special
    Nebracetam - Very strong "feel good" effect
    Pramiracetam - Not bad, wouldnt pay for it
    Rolipram - Awesome memory and a sense of being "awake", though quite pricey
    Coluracetam - Trying to find a source

    And Phenylpiracetam, only racetam that had strong stimulatory properties along with cognitive enhancement, though, as stated above, I am very disappointed that the effects diminished like so.
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    Focus XT + Piracetam is unreal. I use it to help prepare for finals & mid terms. Cheap and effective, can't go wrong.
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    Originally Posted by ChrisG12 View Post
    Give it a search. There's a big thread on it.
    This, figured I'd see you in here haha.

    Here's my impressions of what i've tried:

    Piracetam: Did not use for long period of time, used twice stacked with focus XT and ALCAR and memory/focus was unbeatable
    Noopept: Increased mental endurance, heightened sense of awareness, really no noticeable effects for studying
    Aniracetam: Slight anti-anxiety effect, elevated mood, helpful writing papers
    Oxiracetam: Very good for memorizing and studying, lots of focus, effects last for about 6 hours

    Oxi + 200mg caffeine + 25mg DMAA is a great stack.

    Just bought a bunch of pramiracetam the other day, so we'll see how that goes.
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    Why do some people simultaneously use Piracetam and Aniracetam?
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    Originally Posted by PerpetualMotion View Post
    Why do some people simultaneously use Piracetam and Aniracetam?
    Different MOAs, different benefits.

    Aniracetam is also fat-soluble.
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    Thanks alot for all the infromation, reped everyone,

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    Are all these legal for an athlete to take?

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