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    Ergopharm GF Pro contains cow blood? yummie

    So I've read nothing but positive things about gf pro as a supplement, but decided to research the spray dried plasma ingredient.

    Turns out it's blood collected from slaughterhouses, then spray dried and put in everyone's beloved protein shake... say whaaat?

    Usually, this "Spray dried bovine serum plasma" is fed to pigs and baby calves.

    I usually try to stay away from 'crazy' supplements, and I'm not sure I'm going to be buying GF Pro anytime soon. Looking up the ingredients is like taking a science course.

    We got "Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1)
    "Results of clinical trials evaluating the efficacy of IGF-1 in type 1 diabetes and type 2 diabetes showed great promise in reducing hemoglobin A1C levels, as well as daily insulin consumption. However, the sponsor, Genentech, discontinued the program due to an exacerbation of diabetic retinopathy in patients "

    So... pharm companies are testing this on diabetics and its causing them to go blind? Oh... that sounds like something I'd like to take...hmm. This just got approved by the FDA in 2005, and is an approved drug to be given to short kids as a growth hormone...

    Lil bit of "Transforming growth factor, beta 1, also known as TGFB1, a human gene"
    And some "lactoferrin."


    I'd love some intellectual scientific responses, but I figured others would be interested since this product gets so much attention on here.
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    my gf pro doesn't contain any plasma. it does have fructooligosaccharides.
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    Originally Posted by shefler29 View Post
    my gf pro doesn't contain any plasma. it does have fructooligosaccharides.
    interesting response...

    At bb.com the plasma is listed in the description, but you're right, not in the ingredient list...
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/gf.html

    However, it's listed as an ingredient pretty much everywhere else...
    http://www.cheapvitamins.com/Product/Gf-Pro.aspx
    http://www.********************tore....e=pp&sptype=gg
    http://www.luckyvitamin.com/733428000429.html

    So I dunno what to say. Seeing as how Ergopharm has an entire scientific explanation of the 'bovine serum' on their website... I'm assuming bb.com is mistaken. Or are there multiple versions of this product?
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    Originally Posted by psdevere View Post
    interesting response...

    At bb.com the plasma is listed in the description, but you're right, not in the ingredient list...
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ergo/gf.html

    However, it's listed as an ingredient pretty much everywhere else...
    http://www.cheapvitamins.com/Product/Gf-Pro.aspx
    http://www.********************tore....e=pp&sptype=gg
    http://www.luckyvitamin.com/733428000429.html

    So I dunno what to say. Seeing as how Ergopharm has an entire scientific explanation of the 'bovine serum' on their website... I'm assuming bb.com is mistaken. Or are there multiple versions of this product?
    The Spray Dried Bovine Plasma was dropped and replaced with aminogen and fructooligosaccharides in GF-Pro v2.
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    This is the reason I never tried this product
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    I don't see a problem using GF pro.
    When you eat medium cooked beef steak, it is still some bloody.

    why not eat GF pro
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    Originally Posted by psdevere View Post
    So I've read nothing but positive things about gf pro as a supplement, but decided to research the spray dried plasma ingredient.

    Turns out it's blood collected from slaughterhouses, then spray dried and put in everyone's beloved protein shake... say whaaat?

    Usually, this "Spray dried bovine serum plasma" is fed to pigs and baby calves.

    I usually try to stay away from 'crazy' supplements, and I'm not sure I'm going to be buying GF Pro anytime soon. Looking up the ingredients is like taking a science course.

    We got "Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1)
    "Results of clinical trials evaluating the efficacy of IGF-1 in type 1 diabetes and type 2 diabetes showed great promise in reducing hemoglobin A1C levels, as well as daily insulin consumption. However, the sponsor, Genentech, discontinued the program due to an exacerbation of diabetic retinopathy in patients "

    So... pharm companies are testing this on diabetics and its causing them to go blind? Oh... that sounds like something I'd like to take...hmm. This just got approved by the FDA in 2005, and is an approved drug to be given to short kids as a growth hormone...

    Lil bit of "Transforming growth factor, beta 1, also known as TGFB1, a human gene"
    And some "lactoferrin."


    I'd love some intellectual scientific responses, but I figured others would be interested since this product gets so much attention on here.

    this stuff is not in our protein anymore

    we do sell it at giant nutrition in capsules under the name immunolin though

    a good place for information on this stuff is

    http://www.proliantinc.com/health/pr.../ImmunoLin.asp
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    Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold View Post
    this stuff is not in our protein anymore

    we do sell it at giant nutrition in capsules under the name immunolin though

    a good place for information on this stuff is

    http://www.proliantinc.com/health/pr.../ImmunoLin.asp
    If I'm not mistaken the immunolin helps with protein synthesis right?
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Farang View Post
    I don't see a problem using GF pro.
    When you eat medium cooked beef steak, it is still some bloody.

    why not eat GF pro
    I wouldnt eat that either, just personal preference.
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    Originally Posted by peteypab View Post
    If I'm not mistaken the immunolin helps with protein synthesis right?

    In a way.

    It is very beneficial for recovery and your immune system. I use the capsules now that it's not in GF-Pro.





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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    In a way.

    It is very beneficial for recovery and your immune system. I use the capsules now that it's not in GF-Pro.





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    I think P. Arnold was on the right track with that stuff...

    Protein Serum is the isolated IGF-1 and other immunoglobulin taken from the blood plasma of healthy, young beef cattle. Protein Serum is eight times stronger than whey protein isolate, making it the strongest protein source ever developed with health benefits no other can lay claim to. This product has the smell and taste of rich chocolate with over 60 studies conducted by legitimate third-party research facilities that have repeatedly shown Protein Serum can provide significant health benefits to your heart, muscles, immune system, body composition and body chemistry. You will feel Protein Serum do more for your body than any nutritional supplement you have ever tried, period. The protein is just a bonus and as the name Protein Serum implies, ?The Serum is in the Protein.?

    Q: What can Protein Serum do for you?
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    On a calorie reduced diet, Protein Serum allows your body to tone and lose body fat at record pace. Typically when you diet and lower calories below what is required to maintain your current weight, your body thinks you?re starving and significantly reduces its natural production of immunoglobulin. This causes body fat loss and your overall metabolism to slow dramatically. If you do lose body weight, the catabolic state your body falls into will cause you to lose muscle much faster than body fat because body fat is your body?s most valuable source of stored energy and means of survival. Supplementing with Protein Serum while reducing calories puts your body in an anabolic state opposite to the catabolic state it falls into when it thinks you?re starving. An anabolic state combined with reduced calories allows lean muscle to be maintained and significantly greater muscle tone to be achieved because stored body fat is used as your primary source of energy.

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    Is this "Protein Serum" the same as "Super Plasma Protein" that is in Protein Factory's Hydrodipeptide and Super Plasma Protein?
    It's damn expensive though..
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    i lol'd at your picture
    Uhh, congrats
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    Not a big deal to me. I take Uni-Liver so I'm in no position to judge. Dried cow blood doesn't bother me if there's benefits lol. Not that I'm going to even look into that...
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