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Old 03-17-2008, 09:08 AM   #1
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3 week cycle, qucik burst

so i am doing a bodybuilding contest june 7 and i would like to get a quick little burst of muscle, like 10lbs. nothing huge or insanely noticeable.

I read that it takes about 3 weeks for ur body to start to stop producing natural test, atrophy of the testicals...which i noticed in my last cycle 6 weeks prop, kick started 2 weeks m1t. 10mg

so i am planning on doing a quick little burst of 100mg of prop, 1 vials so 10 shots, about 2 1/2 weeks. and 2 weeks 10mg m1t. milk thislte 4 tabs ed. gunna try and get some proviron cause i really liked it during my last cycle.

i took the proper time off and everything is fine now.

so the question is, i shouldn't shut down much at all right because its not enough time "on cycle" for them to begin the shut down process correct?

i still plan on pct, but don't know if i should do 40/40/20/20 for pct or something lighter, anyways i'm taking around 220+protein and 200 carbs about.

thinking is it worth it? i think so, any opinions would be nice thanks
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Old 03-17-2008, 09:32 AM   #2
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Your body will notice the exogenous testosterone within hours of your first injection - you will be shut down. 3 weeks to start being shutdown? Nonsense.
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ya thats what i was thinking, i dunno where i read that but ya. well since it's so short i don't think i will have a problem getting back to normal then eh? any thoughts of a pct for this? 20 20 20 maybe? trib and or test booster aswell?
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^^^Agreeeeeed
You'll be shutdown.

WHY would you want to do this? Pre contest cycles shouldn't be about putting on weight. You want to use AAS to harden up/vascular. And I guarentee you there are better AAS than m1t for that. The prop would be cool if you were also running something like tren, masteron, or winny. M1T may make you hold water (NOT what you want). Plus many guys stop all oil based injectables 1-2 weeks out because of the possibility of lumps forming under their skin... you'll JUST be starting the oil based products at that time.

Personally, I don't like this idea. This isn't how a precontest cycle should go IMO.
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seemed to work ok for me. before and afters are on pg 4.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7401761

anyone who tells u its not gonna be easier to recover from a 3 week cycle than a 6 or 12 or 20 weeker needs their head checked!
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you'll JUST be starting the oil based products at that time.
wait, what?

i must have missed something, i thought he was talkin about starting it now.
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seemed to work ok for me. before and afters are on pg 4.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7401761

anyone who tells u its not gonna be easier to recover from a 3 week cycle than a 6 or 12 or 20 weeker needs their head checked!
I never said it wouldn't be EASIER TO RECOVER. He asked if he'd be shutdown. I said, he would be. Obviously the longer you're shutdown the harder it will be to recover, but HE WILL STILL BE SHUT DOWN.
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I never said it wouldn't be EASIER TO RECOVER. He asked if he'd be shutdown. I said, he would be. Obviously the longer you're shutdown the harder it will be to recover, but HE WILL STILL BE SHUT DOWN.
uhhh, i didnt say u did dude....no need for all the capitalization. u weren't quoted and the post wasnt directed at u.
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seemed to work ok for me. before and afters are on pg 4.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=7401761

anyone who tells u its not gonna be easier to recover from a 3 week cycle than a 6 or 12 or 20 weeker needs their head checked!
3 weeks? I thought you were running a low dose of tren. Congrats.
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3 weeks? I thought you were running a low dose of tren. Congrats.
pics are at 18days so less than 3 weeks actually. and ya i was running a low dose of test, tren and drol. i wasnt necessarily talkin about the compounds used, just that u can make progress on a short cycle.

i'm a little confused on the OP's plan here now tbh.
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Shutdown starts imediatly but does take up to 2-3 weeks to complete. Its not a complete instant thing. It would be much easier to recover before atrophy and other factors came into play than til weeks after total shutdown occurs. And like stated above, the longer the HPTA is shutdown, the harder. I know several people that use 2-4 week cycles for a quick 10 lbs and recovery is nothing for them.
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wait, what?

i must have missed something, i thought he was talkin about starting it now.
Christ dude, I read his post and thought he was using this cycle as a pre contest cycle to help harden up/hold onto mass! lol I see he wants to do the cycle now to put on 10 pounds.

I still would get more gear and do a proper pre contest cycle, not use a burst cycle as a last ditch effort to put on more mass while you're dieting down for a show.

And my capitalizations are for emphasis, not yelling.
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I agree with KChris. I precontest stack will give you MUCH better results than a quick burst cycle. You might gain 10 lbs of muscle right now, but if you are doing a contest, you can easily burn 20 lbs of muscle while burning 20 lbs of fat. To take a cycle pre contest will not only help you from burning any muscle, but if done right you can actually gain a small bit of muscle. You will come out much further ahead that way.
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m1t bad, prop/tren/masteron ok methinks, but i dont have experience w/ such a short cycle so close to contest.
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pics are at 18days so less than 3 weeks actually. and ya i was running a low dose of test, tren and drol. i wasnt necessarily talkin about the compounds used, just that u can make progress on a short cycle.

i'm a little confused on the OP's plan here now tbh.
I might do 3 weeks of prop @ 100mg ed and tren ace @ 75mg ed with 50mg drol and 25mg naps ed. The thing is they will cost quiet abit.
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