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    I just did a huge search on "most recommend NO product/ pre-workout supp." and I would recommend nano vapor. i found it to be one of the most recommended and i am currently on it and i have amazing pump and drive. i have taken NO-Xplode and i wasnt too impressed it just gave my a huge caffeine rush right after i took it but it only last for about a half hour and it takes the stuff about 45 min to start noticing the pump. or what little it gave me. the nano vapor u take 15 pre-workout and it kicks it pretty quick. One thing i really like about nano compared to xplode is no jitters(caffeine rush).
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    Originally Posted by Sapperdrol View Post
    Ok because you are fairly new, I will help you out.
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    yeah, Suppahpump TO fitty
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    animal pump

    i just finished 1 box of pump and i really liked it the first couple times i used it, but then the pumps really subsided im not gunna get it again plus its pretty expensive.........i got my eyes on gaspari superpump 250, anyone try it yet?
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    I prefer velocity xt because it contains PEA which gives you great focus for intense workouts. It doesnt rely on caffeine but still delivers a great rush of energy that doesnt make you crash afterwards.

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    Originally Posted by Drzman View Post
    5 scoops of reps = roughly 2.7g of BA....kinda underdosed I feel

    especially since most will take 3 max 4 scoops...which means 1.7-2.2g only

    that being said...for the price...its good stuff

    btw, what kind of creatine are we looking at? mono?
    Thank you for your positive input on REPS. Allow me to make a few corrections though. A 201-250 pound individual would take 5 rounded scoops which would result in 3.0g of Beta Alanine. A common dosage for Beta-Alanine in studies is between 3.0-3.2g. Anyone between 251-300 would take 3.3g in 6 rounded scoops. REPS also uses Creatine Monohydrate as that form of Creatine has more favorable research conducted on it currently.

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    Dr. Hoffman and Colleagues recently examined stacking Creatine and Beta-Alanine together and the results were simply amazing. The study used 33 highly trained college football players and monitored their results for 10 weeks. Prior to and following the 10-week study, the researchers had the football players keep a log of their dietary intake, measured the athletes' body composition, body weight, one-repetition maximum in the bench press and squat. The football players who consumed creatine and beta-Alanine increased their 1 repetition max on the bench by roughly 25 pounds. Increases in one-rep squat max were even greater, in that the increase in their 1 RM was improved by nearly 50 pounds. The athletes also gained a significant amount of muscle mass and lost 1.2% of body fat. The group that received the above gains ingested 5.0 g of Creatine Monohydrate and 3.2 g of Beta-Alanine. A second group ingested only 5.0g of Creatine and the third group received a placebo. The workout program that the subjects were placed on had the usual exercise, as well as followed conventional training methods for football players: bench presses, squats, deadlifts, power cleans, incline presses and flyes, rows, etc.

    10). Hoffman et al. Effect of creatine and beta-alanine supplementation on performance and endocrine responses in strength/power athletes. Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2006 Aug;16(4):430-46.
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    well for someone your weight, you would use 3 scoops. so its 10.00 for 13 servings. So it's not bad, on par with white flood.
    Naw, I'll use one serving pre-workout and then my own beta alanine/creatine/CLA combo for the rest of the day (small amounts through out the day is what I found works for me). Most research I read points towards that type of usage.

    Originally Posted by deserusan View Post
    The creatine/ beta alanine mix is patetnted so anyone using it and not using CarnoSyn branded beta alanine is in violation of the patent. This is why you rarely see the combo used. It's a lawsuit waiting to happen.
    Buying them separately and then combining them isn't (which is what I meant). And there are a lot of brands that have beta alanine and creatine in them.

    I use Higher Power's creatine and beta alinine (separate) with a CLA (put a post about it a while ago).
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    Vapor def the best. have tried sp250,vapor,fast twitch,n.o. explode,nano x9, etc. with vapor have constant strength, awesome pumps and no jitters. also very good on stomach. taste isnt great but ok, also great if you are trying to hold off extra bdy fat
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    i've been on sp250 for a month. good pump energy and focus, but i also get these weird headaches an dizzy spells. but if you can stand that then go for it
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    These ingredients looks great havent tried it yet though

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    Originally Posted by RonShipman View Post
    Shock Therapy blows away most
    do i need to pull the thread where you claimed White Flood was the best thing since sliced bread?

    what happen to those thoughts on White Flood?
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    NaNoX9 by muscletech is a great pre-workout supplement..it's a bit pricy but it's definitely worth it..I also heard N.O. Shotgun was a great pre-workout supplement.
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    IMO, most NO products and designer creatines are a bit over the top. If you are looking for a good preWO energy boost, try Core ZAP. It will give you some serious energy, but without the jitters or crash. You can always buy bulk creatine for super cheap and stack it with it. If you want a sample, check the thread in my signature, we know you will love it when you try it!
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    do i need to pull the thread where you claimed White Flood was the best thing since sliced bread?

    what happen to those thoughts on White Flood?
    White Flood and Shock Therapy are pretty equal.. My two favorite pre workout products. I switch back and forth on them
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    Originally Posted by RonShipman View Post
    White Flood and Shock Therapy are pretty equal.. My two favorite pre workout products. I switch back and forth on them
    but White Flood doesn't contain creatine so it's really not a complete pre w/o NO supplement. by saying that it also contains too much caffeine and it makes you feel dizzy and make your heart feel like it's about to beat out of your chest.
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    white flood, no massive surge of energy, just clean energy that lasts for a long workout, good, not great pump, and doesn't cost a fortune. Also no crash after like alot of stim products.
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    Originally Posted by GolferMan View Post
    white flood, no massive surge of energy, just clean energy that lasts for a long workout, good, not great pump, and doesn't cost a fortune. Also no crash after like alot of stim products.
    i agree with it not giving a pump or vascularity like with other pre N.O supplements and it did make me crash like Windows 98 after every workout
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    i agree with it not giving a pump or vascularity like with other pre N.O supplements and it did make me crash like Windows 98 after every workout
    im sorry to hear that, this proves that supps effect everyone differently.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    but White Flood doesn't contain creatine so it's really not a complete pre w/o NO supplement. by saying that it also contains too much caffeine and it makes you feel dizzy and make your heart feel like it's about to beat out of your chest.
    White Flood is good stuff, you can add a little creatine to if desired. When I'm not wanting creatine White Flood is my pre workout powder of choice. Shock Therapy isn't perfect either, it's a little to low dosed in beta alanine, so I add a little to it and it's perfect.
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    White Flood is good stuff, you can add a little creatine to if desired. When I'm not wanting creatine White Flood is my pre workout powder of choice.
    i'd rather use Purple Wraath instead of White Flood for a off creatine cycle, but that's just my opinion.
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    Originally Posted by quank View Post
    i'd rather use Purple Wraath instead of White Flood for a off creatine cycle, but that's just my opinion.
    Wraath is good stuff, I just think White Flood is better. two different products, but the white flood gives me energy and focus and decent pumps. The Amino acids in Wraath are nice but I do enough protein powder so I'm getting plenty of Aminos.
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    I've just started using REPS, and like it so far, but I only weigh 170 and take only 3 scoops, and after reading everything, feel that I may need the recomended 5 scoops to get the benefit of the beta-alanine. Caffeine does not affect me at all either. What is the major benefit of everything in a pre-workout supp...
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