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    Casein/Whey post workout?

    I read an article in Muscle and Fitness that suggested taking casein and whey protein post workout produced greater muscle mass than either one by themselves. Also they did a study comparing hunger after each. One group drank a whey protein shake and the other drank a casein protein shake. The group that drank the casein protein shake was able to eat more 60 minutes later than the whey shake group. This is interseting and I was wondering what you guys thought about using whey and casein post workout?
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    alot of people use whey/casein blends, here are some examples:

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    I use On Natural Whey and On Casien and use different amount blends at different times in the day. Usually post workout ill do 1 1/3 sc. Whey and 2/3 sc. Casien.
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    Or u can just get whey protein...and add milk to it when u want a blend.
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    Originally Posted by Adawg4929 View Post
    I use On Natural Whey and On Casien and use different amount blends at different times in the day. Usually post workout ill do 1 1/3 sc. Whey and 2/3 sc. Casien.
    Cool that is basically what I have been doing! 1 sccop of Whey and 1 scoop of Casein. Nobody thinks that the casein will slow the digestion of the whey and is a bad idea?
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    Originally Posted by slyc View Post
    Or u can just get whey protein...and add milk to it when u want a blend.
    Not really

    There is about 8 grams of protein in 1 cup of milk, 80% of that protien being Casien.

    So thats 6.4 g of Casien/Cup of Milk, Now to get those 23 grams of caisen you would get from 1 sc. of On casien. You would have to drink over 3 n 1/2 cups of milk or about 29 ounces. Now with 29 ounces of milk you can imagine the amount of Fat and Milk Sugar you will be taking in, def. not worth it. Much rather get my casien from On Casien.

    Originally Posted by Myosin10 View Post
    Cool that is basically what I have been doing! 1 sccop of Whey and 1 scoop of Casein. Nobody thinks that the casein will slow the digestion of the whey and is a bad idea?
    No that is the point, the point is that if you combine them together you will get the immediate amino acid flow from the whey but will also receive a constant flow from the casien. Your body can only absorb so much at one time, so instead of just trying to jam 50 grams of whey in and only getting in 1/2 you use 25 g of whey for your immediate replenishment and 25g of Casien for a constant flow. AS you were saying the casien might slow down the absorption of some of the whey but most will be absorbed before the casien.
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    I've read a couple of articles too on whey vs. whey/casein blend after WO. I just started doing this for a week now and will continue to monitor any changes if any. For giggles, I mixed 1 scoop of champion nutrition whey with 1 scoop of muscle milk lite with water along with either waixy maize or straight dextrose.
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    Originally Posted by cbs View Post
    I've read a couple of articles too on whey vs. whey/casein blend after WO. I just started doing this for a week now and will continue to monitor any changes if any. For giggles, I mixed 1 scoop of champion nutrition whey with 1 scoop of muscle milk lite with water along with either waixy maize or straight dextrose.
    ya i usually do 2 scoops of sam club style EAS whey protein + 1 scoop ON casein + 1 scoop WMS + 5g bcaas for post wo.
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    ya i usually do 2 scoops of sam club style EAS whey protein + 1 scoop ON casein + 1 scoop WMS + 5g bcaas for post wo.
    U just reminded me flex....I take Xtend bcaas too during and after i work out.
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    Originally Posted by cbs View Post
    U just reminded me flex....I take Xtend bcaas too during and after i work out.
    i was taking bcaas pre wo as well and like 20g whey 20g wms but... that plus gm and wf and my stomach was death during my workout so i stopped lol.
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    i was taking bcaas pre wo as well and like 20g whey 20g wms but... that plus gm and wf and my stomach was death during my workout so i stopped lol.

    Well, I just finished a tub of SP250 along with Xtend during and after but I had zero stomach issues. SP250 is a very good product.

    Now, I am trying something different by drinking a scoop of whey before WO. Again, you have to see what works and i want to see how my body will respond to this and to the post WO blend.
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    meh..1 shake a day whey postworkout with 2% milk oats an honey perhaps a banana is the best gains ive seen...i eat my cottage cheese before bed.
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    i was taking bcaas pre wo as well and like 20g whey 20g wms but... that plus gm and wf and my stomach was death during my workout so i stopped lol.

    DAM Flex...I just realized you live in chesapeake..I live in Hampton bro!!!
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    Originally Posted by cbs View Post
    DAM Flex...I just realized you live in chesapeake..I live in Hampton bro!!!
    lol, no ****??

    haha. i work at the NAS Norfolk base :-D
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    I do a scoop of ON whey and a scoop of ON casein after a workout. Can't go wrong.
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    lol, no ****??

    haha. i work at the NAS Norfolk base :-D
    Well, cool. I am a systems analyst for Bon Secours hospitals but I work in Richmond on some days. Where do you work out?
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    ya i usually do 2 scoops of sam club style EAS whey protein + 1 scoop ON casein + 1 scoop WMS + 5g bcaas for post wo.
    You are taking the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein..right? Also, 40 g (1 scoop) isnt very much...you would probably be better with 2 or 3 scoops.

    I generally avoid casein post workout as it forms a lump in your stomach and leaches out protein over the next several hours and it also slows down the absorption of whey...not exactly what you want PWO. The purpose of the PWO meal is to get nutrients to your muscles as fast as possible. Have another meal with slower digesting proteins about an hour after your PWO meal if you are interested in staying anabolic for a longer amount of time. I would go with a hydrolysate post workout..I know of an extremely high quality hydrolyzed casein that actually doesnt taste like ass, PM me if you want info.
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    Because you're anabolic for more time on Casein/Whey blend, aminos are constant. Whey is fast absorption.
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    Originally Posted by MedicineWheel View Post
    You are taking the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein..right?
    Why do you need to take the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein? I mix it with my PWO protein shake...
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    Originally Posted by MedicineWheel View Post
    You are taking the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein..right? Also, 40 g (1 scoop) isnt very much...you would probably be better with 2 or 3 scoops.

    I generally avoid casein post workout as it forms a lump in your stomach and leaches out protein over the next several hours and it also slows down the absorption of whey...not exactly what you want PWO. The purpose of the PWO meal is to get nutrients to your muscles as fast as possible. Have another meal with slower digesting proteins about an hour after your PWO meal if you are interested in staying anabolic for a longer amount of time. I would go with a hydrolysate post workout..I know of an extremely high quality hydrolyzed casein that actually doesnt taste like ass, PM me if you want info.
    thanks for the info! and u recommend 80+g of WMS 1 hr pre-wo?
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    Originally Posted by kwag7 View Post
    "You are taking the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein..right?"

    Why do you need to take the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein? I mix it with my PWO protein shake...
    The entire advantage of waxy maize is the high molecular weight which allows it to be pulled down into the gut immediately as it is ingested (rather than floating around in your stomach for a while like malto, etc.). Ingesting waxy with protein actually lowers the molecular weight and negates the entire advantage of taking it.
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    thanks for the info! and u recommend 80+g of WMS 1 hr pre-wo?
    If you want to take it pre workout, then I would take 1 scoop+5-10g bcaa pre workout, immediately post workout take 2 sccops+5-10g bcaa, and then 20-30 minutes after that, take your protein.

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    Originally Posted by MedicineWheel View Post
    If you want to take it pre workout, then I would take 1 scoop+5-10g bcaa pre workout, immediately post workout take 2 sccops+5-10g bcaa, and then 20-30 minutes after that, take your protein.

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    I guess I'll have to give that a try...thanks.

    Just curious but why do all these pre-made PWO shakes have WM mixed with protein?
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    Originally Posted by MedicineWheel View Post
    If you want to take it pre workout, then I would take 1 scoop+5-10g bcaa pre workout, immediately post workout take 2 sccops+5-10g bcaa, and then 20-30 minutes after that, take your protein.

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    thanks for the info! :-D

    if taking Purplewraath during my workout... still take 5g pre and post bcaas as well?
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    Originally Posted by kwag7 View Post
    I guess I'll have to give that a try...thanks.

    Just curious but why do all these pre-made PWO shakes have WM mixed with protein?
    because someone wants to sell you something "new and different" but selling two RTD pwo drinks is not really commercially viable. people want everything at once, not two steps.
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    Originally Posted by JuiceMasterFlex View Post
    thanks for the info! :-D

    if taking Purplewraath during my workout... still take 5g pre and post bcaas as well?
    That sounds good. Really, you cant go wrong with having more bcaa's around your workouts, the more the merrier!
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    Blended proteins are the best and give the best results, i would only use 100% whey post workout if i ran out of my blends.

    Blends>Whey
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    Originally Posted by MotorGUY View Post
    Blended proteins are the best and give the best results, i would only use 100% whey post workout if i ran out of my blends.

    Blends>Whey
    i always use to use ON instantized, the stuff that comes in the 4.4lb jug... good stuff.
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    Originally Posted by MedicineWheel View Post
    You are taking the waxy 20-30 minutes before the protein..right? Also, 40 g (1 scoop) isnt very much...you would probably be better with 2 or 3 scoops.

    I generally avoid casein post workout as it forms a lump in your stomach and leaches out protein over the next several hours and it also slows down the absorption of whey...not exactly what you want PWO. The purpose of the PWO meal is to get nutrients to your muscles as fast as possible. Have another meal with slower digesting proteins about an hour after your PWO meal if you are interested in staying anabolic for a longer amount of time. I would go with a hydrolysate post workout..I know of an extremely high quality hydrolyzed casein that actually doesnt taste like ass, PM me if you want info.
    Isnt that the point that whey digests fast and casein is a bit slower? So you stay catabolic for longer and a more even amount of time? I just read some articles one in muscle and fitness another in some other magazine about whey/casein protein mix giving better gains for post workout protein over whey or casein by themselves. Also in muscle and fitness there is a study that says casein protein will make you hungrier than whey protein 90 minutes after ingesting.

    Also I hate doing two shakes I also just mix my carbs in with the protein, creatine, bcaa, vit e, vit c and r-ala
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