Speedy's Oxodrol Pro Info

[Speedy_2007]

I recently started an Oxodrol Pro cycle (Epistane Clone). My stats are 32 years old, 5' 11, 171 lbs as of today, 11.2% body fat.

!!!!HISTORY!!!!

Weight lifting for 13 years, seriously for 2. Started at 120 lbs, plateaued at 148-150 lbs and pretty much stayed there.

Ectomorph body type.

Previous PH use: Methyl Masterdrol (SD Clone) 11-06; Superdrol 11-07
I have only used PHs once a year to bulk in the fall/winter. This has worked well for my personal goals.

I responded well to Methyl Masterdrol and gained 22 lbs and 30% in strength. I use bench press as my benchmark....max was 185 for a couple reps before, after 235 for a couple reps...could do more reps but was scared I'd hurt a shoulder as my right started acting up during cycle. Received cortisone injections for right shoulder and was told I'd damaged the soft tissue and needed to have part of my collar bone removed to correct it. I've not had that done. I backed my bench down to no more than 225 and have no current issues with shoulders.

I was moody on Masterdrol and was shut down by week 3. OTC PCT got me back on track within a week...used Nolvadex XT. Diet was poor as I didn't understand the calorie requirements like I do today.

Superdrol I didn't respond to as well. I only gained 14 pounds. I still didn't go above benching 225, I just increased the reps and could knock out reps of 10 no problem. Slight recurring shoulder pain. Very moody demeanor and again shut down by week 3. OTC PCT again and this time it took 2 weeks to get back to normal.

Had doc check blood work after Superdrol and things were fine. I have elevated cholesterol due to heredity.

Starting November 07 I started reading up on diet and got a good ectomorph clean bulking diet going. Increased calories from 2000/day to 3300-4000/day. My goal was to go from 158 to 170 before starting the Oxodrol Pro. This was accomplished even with a 2 week set back of the flu which cost me 8 precious pounds.

Visited my doc for base line labs supplement free for over a year back mid February before starting the Oxodrol Pro. Here are the results.

LIPID
NA 140
K+ 5.2
CL 102
CO2 31
Glucose 103
BUN 26 (marked as high?)

GLOMELULAR FILT
Creatine 1.0
GFR >90

BUN/CREAT Ratio 26.0 (marked as high?)
Total Protein 7.8
Albumin 4.6
Globulin 3.2
A/G Ratio 1.4
Calcium 9.5
Bilirubin Total 0.5
AST (SGOT) 31
ALT (SGPT) 50
ALK PHOS 104

Triglycerides 98
Cholesterol 236 (marked high which it has been since first tested. was 279 at one point)
HDL Cholesterol 40
LDL 176
VLDL 20
CHOL/HDL Ratio 5.9

Estradiol 19.2
Testosterone 513.3

I will get follow-up lab work done the week I finish the Oxodrol Pro to compare, then again after any necessary PCT. I told the doc I may need Nolva and he said we'd wait to see how the post PH labs looked and make a decision.

!!!Oxodrol Pro Log!!!
I will be using a 20mg/day dose with 10mg at 6am and 10mg 6pm.

I'm using Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support at 1 scoop/day with some protein and skim milk just before bed. This stuff is NASTY tasting and I just can't stomach it twice a day without vomiting. This product is good from an ingredient standpoint but due to the taste I won't be using it again.

Week 1 - The first thing I noticed is that Oxodrol Pro gives me a very calm feeling evident about 30 minutes after ingestion. By day 6 my stamina was AT LEAST double what I normally feel at the gym. I hadn't gained any weight by the end of week one, but I was shocked at the increase in stamina. Strength was also up about 10%. Left elbow giving some pain by day 7.

Day 10 - Body fat is down .5% and weight is up 1.5 lbs. Noticeable changes in body composition, more muscular appearance, clothes feel tighter especially in the butt and thighs. Girl friend notices larger stature. Strength is up as well compared to last week but nothing really dramatic. I'm getting a couple more reps than normal and added 10 additional pounds to final set. Both elbows giving some pain and twinges in other joints at times. Today was shoulders and back.

Not my full workout routine, but examples:
Smith Military Press: 1 x 135 @10 2 x 155 @7 1 x 165 @4 (never done 165 before)

Lat Pull: 4 x 220 @8 (last week was 3 x 220 @8 and 1 x 200 @8)

[StxNas]

I'm in. I have a couple boxes of these that I got when bb.com first started selling them. I couldn't resist the price

Sorry to hear that Cycle Support tastes that bad to you. I'm not sure which flavor you have, but I find that the peanut butter combines well with chocolate whey...if that doesn't work for you there's always Life Support.

Good luck with your cycle and I'll be following along whenever you update.

[RWoods]

Subbed for sure. it will be great to be able to reference your bloodwork

[Speedy_2007]

I'm in. I have a couple boxes of these that I got when bb.com first started selling them. I couldn't resist the price

Sorry to hear that Cycle Support tastes that bad to you. I'm not sure which flavor you have, but I find that the peanut butter combines well with chocolate whey...if that doesn't work for you there's always Life Support.

Good luck with your cycle and I'll be following along whenever you update.

I may try the peanut butter next time. I have chocolate now. There's something in it that is just awfully bitter. Little pieces of it stay stuck to my teeth after the last swig and it makes me gag every time. It took me about a week just to be able to drink it without nearly vomiting.

So, update today:

Very slight acne in a couple places. Nothing too big of a deal. It's so slight I wouldn't even think it related to the Oxodrol Pro, but I never have break outs at all, so it probably is.

Strength is still going up at about 10% a workout. Stamina wasn't as good today, but the time change has been a little tough since I hit the gym at 7am before work. I still get a very even kilter feeling, almost a relaxed sensation about 30 minutes after ingestion. My girlfriend says I'm much more even tempered than when taking Superdrol or Methyl Masterdrol. By this point in the Superdrol and Methyl Masterdrol weight was going up about a pound a day though, this hasn't done that yet.

My left shoulder is in serious pain at this point. I did an extra chest workout last night and although my strength feels pretty good, the shoulder is holding me back. I received my shipment of NOW Glucosamine and Chondriotin today, and have already started taking it. We'll see how it does. Elbows aren't as sore anymore, but this shoulder could be a problem.

Again, not a full workout log, but just the high points:

Today was legs and triceps.

Barbell Squats
Last week: 135 x 10 @1 225 x 8 @2 275 x 8 @1
This week: 135 x 10 @1 225 x 8 @1 275 x 8 @1 285 x 6 @1

Deadlift
Last week: 185 x 8 @1 205 x 8 @2 215 x 8 @1
This week: 185 x 8 @1 205 x 8 @1 215 x 8 @2 (and this felt very easy)

I got a sinus infection last weekend and have been taking an antibiotic so that may or may not explain why my weight isn't going up yet. I have about 2 days left on it. I have no idea how antibiotics affect these types of products.

[StxNas]

I believe it's the red yeast rice that you're tasting.

Have you thought about upping your EFA intake some too? That might help a little with your joints.

[Speedy_2007]

I believe it's the red yeast rice that you're tasting.

Have you thought about upping your EFA intake some too? That might help a little with your joints.

Hadn't thought of that. I take 2Gs of Flaxseed oil a day currently. Think I need more than that?

[StxNas]

Honestly, I'm not sure of the exact doses when EFAs are used for that.

I've thought about giving a Celadrin a try too.

[Speedy_2007]

Day 17

Strength was really pouring on today. Bodyweight: 170.5 Body fat 10.9% (BF down 1% from last week weight the same)

Today was chest and biceps (chest is my benchmark for supplements)
Not a full routine, but some examples:

Incline Dumb Bell - 75 x 8 @1 80 x 8 @1 80 x 7 @1 85 x 5 @1
last week: 75 x 8 @1 80 x 8 @1 80 x 7 @2
Bench Press - 225 x 7 @2 235 x 5 @1 205 x 7 @2
last week: 225 x 6 @2 215 x 7 @1 205 x 8 @1

Incline double dumb bell curls - 35 x 8 @1 40 x 8 @2 45 x 6 @1
last week: 35 x 8 @1 40 x 8 @3

Bench was VERY easy at 225, almost so much so that I questioned my spotter who swore up and down they offered no assistance.

Joints are still a problem. I've begun icing down my left shoulder at night. My elbows were pretty painful during curls today as well.

I'm still finding it odd that I'm not gaining any weight, but maybe this product works differently than the others I've used. There's no doubt strength is going up. I felt I could have done more on bench, but things were feeling funny in my pecs so I always want to take it easy when using these products so as not to injure anything.

[Tireman84]

could someone tell me/private message me on how/where to buy nolva? thanks!

[Speedy_2007]

Day 19

Back pumps started up slightly yesterday afternoon. I can still feel it today. Kind of like a tightness in my lower back just above my kidneys. No big deal though. Also, muscles seem to cramp easier. For instance if I reach back to stretch like doing a double front bicep pose, my forearms will cramp right at the bend of the elbow. I had this same effect with Superdrol.

Strength is still doing really well. Today I weighed more (173.5 at 10.8 % BF) but although I weigh daily, I only actually "count" it once a week on Mondays to reduce fluctuations due to fluid intake, etc so we'll see what I'm at on Monday before saying I'm gaining weight.

Today was shoulders and back:

Not a full workout but some examples:

Smith Military Press: 135 x 8 @1 155 x 7 @2 165 x 5 @1 (really put a hurtin' on my left shoulder or I would have easily done more).

Lat Pull: 220 x 8 @4 (this felt pretty easy so next week I'll increase weight)

Dumb bell row: 85 x 8 @1 85 x 7 @2
Last week: 80 x 8 @3

Appetite is up today as well. This is something I experienced big time on Superdrol but not so much with this Oxodrol Pro. However, I've gotten my diet in much better shape than when I took the Superdrol, so that could be why, or maybe this product just took longer to kick in. I'll see if the increase in appetite continues. For instance this morning I had 1/2 cup oats, 2 cups skim milk, and a banana on the way to the gym (approx. 6am). At 9:30am I had an Ultramet protein shake mixed with water and 2 oz of home made beef jerky. Now (1pm) I'm having a grilled chicken breast, 1 serving of Velveeta shells and cheese, 4 peanut butter crackers, light cheese stick, 1 server of turkey pepperoni, and 1 serving of low fat Pringles. Usually by now I'm forcing down the peanut butter crackers, but today I'm still hungry. This is about 1800 calories so far today and nearly halfway to my daily goal of 4000.

[Speedy_2007]

Day 21

I'm STILL not gaining any weight. It's starting to frustrate me as by now on Superdrol I was gaining a pound a day EASILY. I'm eating 4,000+ cals a day as well with 2x my bodyweight in protein daily which is over 300 grams daily. If this product doesn't produce gains in mass, I don't think it worth using. I'll see where I end up, but I only have a week left.

My strength is still going up, so that another reason I can't understand not gaining weight. However, with this increase in strength I'm starting to notice being able to injure myself as well. Today doing standing leg curls I pulled my left hamstring pretty good. Muscles are also cramping VERY easily when flexed. I'm drinking nearly a gallon of water a day and eat plenty of bananas, but I'm going to up my water intake to 1.5 gallons to see if that helps as I feel thirsty a lot.

Today's workout was legs and triceps. Not a full workout but some examples:
Barbell Squat: 135 x 10 @1 225 x 8 @1 275 x 8 @1 295 x 7 @1
Deadlift: 185 x 8@1 205 x 8 @1 215 x 8 @1 225 x 7 @1 (personal best)

Super nose breakers: 90 x 8 @3 100 x 7 @1 (personal best)
Overhead tricep ext: 75 x 8 @3 75 x 7 @1

The Glucosamine and Chondroitin seems to help my joints some. They still ache but not as bad. Acne has gotten a touch worse on the tops of my shoulders, but nothing bad at all.

[TLUTT]

Hey, I was wondering what is Oxodrol. I have noticed that you are getting great results with it, can you explain what it is and where you got it?

[Speedy_2007]

Hey, I was wondering what is Oxodrol. I have noticed that you are getting great results with it, can you explain what it is and where you got it?

So far I'm not really that impressed with it compared to other products I've used, but if you say so....

Do some research before deciding to use:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/ids/oxo.html

[TLUTT]

Speedy,

What other supplements have you been on that has made you see better gains?

[Speedy_2007]

Speedy,

What other supplements have you been on that has made you see better gains?

Read this entire log and you'll get your answers.

[StxNas]

Damn, I was hoping for more by now...I hope this pans out for you.

[Speedy_2007]

Damn, I was hoping for more by now...I hope this pans out for you.

Me too, so far this stuff gets a thumbs down from me. The strength is nice, but the physical appearance just isn't the same as it was with Superdrol. The downside to the strength going up so rapidly is that it allows you to hurt yourself. I pulled the hell outta my left hamstring today doing standing leg curls. It'll take a week for it to heal probably.

I do "feel" better though. I'm not moody, depressed, or any of that weird emotional stuff I had to deal with on Superdrol. I'm still gonna have my blood worked ran just for grins. I've got the appt scheduled for April 1 as that'll be the day I take my last dose. If blood work is off AT ALL I'd say this product is NOT worth it. If my blood work is good, then maybe so for the strength if that's what you're looking for.

I'll keep updating my log none-the-less.

[StxNas]

Thanks, it's much appreciated. Especially the blood work.

[Speedy_2007]

Day 24

I upped my dose from the directed 2 tabs daily to 3 (making the increase from 20mg to 30mg). I decided to do this for the last week as this stuff really hasn't done anything for me to this point.

I've got follow-up blood work scheduled for Thursday 3/27 as well. That'll be my last day taking this product.

Weight 172.5 Body fat 11.9%

Today was Chest and Biceps

Full Workout:
Incline Dumb Bell Press: 75 x 10 @1 80 x 7@2 85 x 4 @1
Bench Press: 235 x 5 @1 225 x 6 @1 215 x6 @1 205 x 7 @1
Hammer Strength Decline: 315 x 8 @4

Incline Double Dumb Bell Curl: 35 x 8 @1 40 x 8 @1 45 x 8 @1 45 x 6 @1
Barbell Curl: 80 x 8 @4
Hammer Strength Curl: 80 x 8 @4

The Glucosamine and Chondroitin have helped with the joint pain. My left shoulder is much better, but my left elbow still feels pretty tight and was giving me a lot of grief toward the end of the curls.

I felt a little sluggish today. I attribute this to not eating a good dinner yesterday. I had a late Easter dinner and then just had a home made protein shake for dinner last night (750 cals) followed by some ON Whey and skim milk a couple hours later right before bed.

I'm still not impressed with this product. I've not really gained any appreciable weight on this and feel I should have by now. Strength is up, but not as much as I'd expected as compared to Superdrol. I'm curious to see my blood work.

My girl friend says I look much fuller than before. She'd been away for a week and came back on Friday and commented that I "appeared" to have grown, but the scale and body fat monitor don't really support that.

[Tireman84]

hey i was wondering what your protein intake and daily calories were per day? i have a box and havnt gotten any liver support and cant find out where to get Nolva from yet so i havnt taken it. I have two friends that took it and one saw good results and the other didn't. The only thing they did differently was in dieting, the one ate upwards of 300g protein per day and more calories, and the other had maybe 100g per day with less calories. Ive been told this product allows your body to absorb/use more protein because of the blocking effects it has on enzymes in the liver. So were you eating enough? Because i hear thats the main thing to focus on.

[Speedy_2007]

hey i was wondering what your protein intake and daily calories were per day? i have a box and havnt gotten any liver support and cant find out where to get Nolva from yet so i havnt taken it. I have two friends that took it and one saw good results and the other didn't. The only thing they did differently was in dieting, the one ate upwards of 300g protein per day and more calories, and the other had maybe 100g per day with less calories. Ive been told this product allows your body to absorb/use more protein because of the blocking effects it has on enzymes in the liver. So were you eating enough? Because i hear thats the main thing to focus on.

~ 4000 cals a day
~ 300+g protein daily

[lunab]

do you appear leaner than before? thats what i have nticed the most. I just dont like the way i feel here latley.. I felt alittle depressed on sunday... Just not a normal feeling for me. This will be the last time i use this stuff but i have noticed a good amount of gains and still have a week and a half to go on the cycle at 30mg's. But might cut it short due to getting jittery/light headed feeling everyday.

[StxNas]

20mg is on the low side of dosing. Most people only run epithio products at 20mg for about a week. I wouldn't expect a lot of gains at this dose, but I would expect to lean up, depending on my diet of course.

[Speedy_2007]

do you appear leaner than before? thats what i have nticed the most. I just dont like the way i feel here latley.. I felt alittle depressed on sunday... Just not a normal feeling for me. This will be the last time i use this stuff but i have noticed a good amount of gains and still have a week and a half to go on the cycle at 30mg's. But might cut it short due to getting jittery/light headed feeling everyday.

Not really. I feel a little more fat actually. I've logged my weight and bf% throughout this log. This morning I was 173 pounds and 11.2% BF, but I only actually count these measurements on Mondays to get rid of typical deviation due to fluid intake, etc. Yesterday (Monday) I was 172.5 and 11.9% BF. I'm typically under 10% BF, but that was before eating 4000 cals daily. I was 8.8% back in November when I began this diet and weighed 158. I'm not disappointed in putting on 3% BF with the 15 lbs of mass, but I'll be shaving that back down below 10% soon.

20mg is on the low side of dosing. Most people only run epithio products at 20mg for about a week. I wouldn't expect a lot of gains at this dose, but I would expect to lean up, depending on my diet of course.

That very well could be. I was leery to take 30mgs as back when I ran SD I went up to 30mgs after the first week and it really made me feel like crap. I understand these two compounds are different, but I didn't want to chance it. I've been on 30mgs for the past 3 days and feel fine to this point. I'll be done with this on Thursday.

[lunab]

hey speedy where in tenn are you?

[Speedy_2007]

hey speedy where in tenn are you?

Nashville area.

[Speedy_2007]

Day 26

I have a doc appt tomorrow for follow-up blood work. I'll post those results once I get them back. I'd expect them by next Monday 3/31 at the latest.

Bumping up to 30mgs daily has caused increased acne and joint pain. Strength was up pretty good at the gym, but exercises are more difficult to do because of the joint issues. My left elbow feels shot, left shoulder shot, and right elbow starting to act up.

Strength was pretty good at the gym today. But I've not gained a pound on this product.

Today was shoulders and back.

Full Workout:

Smith Military Press: 135 x 8 @1 155 x 7 @1 165 x 5 @1 165 x 4 @1
Front Side Dumbell Raises: 35 x 8 @1 35 x 7 @1 35 x 6 @1 30 x 8 @1
Cable Shrugs: 95 x 8 @3 95 x 6 @1
Smith Shrugs: 275 x 12 @3 275 x 10 @1

Lat Pull: 220 x 8 @1 230 x 8 @1 240 x 6 @1 240 x 4 @1
Dumb Bell Row: 85 x 8 @3
Cable Row: 170 x 8 @1 180 x 6 @1 (ran out of time for the third set)

[lunab]

well i started pcs just now... i went to the doctor today i have to go get the blood work done either tomarrow or friday along with a glucose tolerance test. I hate that i feel this way cause havoc was working for me and i was just getting into the good of it. Strength was setting in and getting lean/hard.. 3.5 weeks. Im doing the pcs 2 in the morn and 2 at night as directions stat then il start lean extreme in a couple weeks finish up with 6oxo. Im doing what dm is doing pretty much due to this is being first time to do a pct and this type of supplement.

[StxNas]

Lunab, your POST Cyce Support, 6-oxo, and Lean Xtreme dosing protocol all look good.

Speedy, I've heard celadrin is pretty good, but I've never tried it. Good luck with your elbow. I get tendinitis in my right elbow every now and then and it really makes chest and shoulders rough.

[Speedy_2007]

Day 27

Talked to Doc today, had blood drawn.

I asked Doc why so many guys are afraid to tell their docs that they're using these types of products and he said he wasn't sure as he wasn't going to blow the whistle on me or anything, but that these products were illegal for a reason. He's running LH, Free Test, Total Estrogen, and a few others. We'll see where it's at when I get the results back.

Will finish the Oxodrol Pro today and will begin PCS tomorrow. I'll likely do the same regimen as D-man with Lean Xtreme in a week or two, and 6-oxo as well as that seems to be the pretty well accepted OTC PCS. Now if my labs come back totally whack, I will ask the doc for Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolva). I asked him about this today and he said let's just wait and see what's screwed up before thinking about a solution.