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    Whats a good deadlift???

    Guys,

    If squatting 2X your body weight is very good, How would you measure what a good deadlift ratio would be??? (2.5 X bodyweight?)

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    Originally Posted by fnlights View Post
    Guys,

    If squatting 2X your body weight is very good, How would you measure what a good deadlift ratio would be??? (2.5 X bodyweight?)

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    Over 3x is considered on many strength charts to be Elite Strength Standard. 2x is decent though. 2.5x would be intermediate/advanced.
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    Originally Posted by RU4A69 View Post
    A good deadlift is 5lbs heavier than last week
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    Originally Posted by RU4A69 View Post
    A good deadlift is 5lbs heavier than last week
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    Originally Posted by mikecart1 View Post
    Over 3x is considered on many strength charts to be Elite Strength Standard. 2x is decent though. 2.5x would be intermediate/advanced.
    I guess I have some work to do.
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    Originally Posted by RU4A69 View Post
    A good deadlift is 5lbs heavier than last week
    reps for simple truth.
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    Originally Posted by khajja View Post
    reps for simple truth.
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    Originally Posted by mikecart1 View Post
    Over 3x is considered on many strength charts to be Elite Strength Standard. 2x is decent though. 2.5x would be intermediate/advanced.
    I have hit 2.5 times bodyweight but have a ways to go to hit 3 times.
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    Originally Posted by fnlights View Post
    Guys,

    If squatting 2X your body weight is very good, How would you measure what a good deadlift ratio would be??? (2.5 X bodyweight?)

    Thanks
    IMO it's not that simple. For an equation like that to work you would have to be talking about every bodyweight entered to consist of the same bf%. Like RU4A69 said, if your are doing better than before it is a good lift no matter what lift it is.
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    Originally Posted by 90redlx View Post
    IMO it's not that simple. For an equation like that to work you would have to be talking about every bodyweight entered to consist of the same bf%.
    What are you talking about.. its not an equation.

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    i'd say about 450lbs to start whoas


    i wouldnt be all WHOA if a 90lb emo lifted 200lbs, or an ant lifted a leaf-steam. Its still only a leaf-stem!!!
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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    What are you talking about.. its not an equation.

    Bodyweight multiples are just a rough guide to assess a person's strength levels.
    He means you can't just take your bodyweight and multiply by a number to give a "good" deadlift. Your build and height can seriously affect your lift numbers. A guy at 5'6" at 175lb will almost always deadlift more than someone 6'3" at the same 175lb bodyweight. The shorter guy has the mechanical advantage, unless the 6'3" guy has midget legs LOL.

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    i think the 400 deadlift is kind of the equivalent of the 300 bench. its what most people look to as impressive.....

    like another guy said though as long as you keep going up thats what counts cause we are all different and have different natural strangth levels, and different levels of potential through genetics...
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    Originally Posted by buening View Post
    He means you can't just take your bodyweight and multiply by a number to give a "good" deadlift.
    Sure you can. As a "rough guide", like I said.

    Originally Posted by buening View Post
    Your build and height can seriously affect your lift numbers. A guy at 5'6" at 175lb will almost always deadlift more than someone 6'3" at the same 175lb bodyweight. The shorter guy has the mechanical advantage, unless the 6'3" guy has midget legs LOL.
    Sure... but that just means the 6'3 guy needs to get stronger and fill out his frame if he wants to have a good lift. I don't see how it is contrary at all to the validity of bodyweight multiples.

    Originally Posted by buening View Post
    But the multiplier is a good rough estimate for someone of normal height/weight ratio.
    There will be skewing at extreme ends of both height/weight and anthropometry, definitely. But again, I don't see this as a problem for bodyweight multiples as benchmarks.
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    Yes it is a "rough guide", but just keep in mind that there are mechanical advantages when doing certain lifts. Shorter people can perform the deadlift much easier than taller people and the person's BF% and musculature will skew the magical 2.5xBW number

    For those that are taller, the conventional deadlift turns into a 1/2 squat 1/2 deadlift because of the extra height and ROM.
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    Originally Posted by dazzlepecs View Post
    i wouldnt be all WHOA if a 90lb emo lifted 200lbs, or an ant lifted a leaf-steam. Its still only a leaf-stem!!!
    I would disagree, to me it's impressive to see someone who is 150 or so pull 350. More so than watching someone who weighs 220 do the same weight.
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    Originally Posted by Kiknskreem View Post
    Why do I get the feeling you're a tall guy with a poor deadlift?

    Height has nothing to do with it by the way..... the relative size of your body segments is much more important.
    Well I guess if you consider 5'9" tall?


    It appears I was confusing it with the disadvantage with Squats. Sorry bout that I would think the fulcrum would be the same with deadlifts though, maybe not.

    http://www.myoquip.com.au/Biomechani...at_article.htm

    http://www.naturalstrength.com/weigh...?ArticleID=145
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