Pre-Workout Stack

[cobb87]

I am re-working my pre work-out stack; was wondering if there are any 'no-no's' of mixing supplements in pre-workout.

So far I'm thinking
-Beta Alanine
-Creatine
-Nitric Oxide

Just curious if some of these are redundant or if they could potentially turn out to be a potent combination of supplement.

[urg862]

What exactly are you hoping to get out of your pre? I'm guessing at least pumps bc of the nitric oxide..

[Blainex]

I am re-working my pre work-out stack; was wondering if there are any 'no-no's' of mixing supplements in pre-workout.

So far I'm thinking
-Beta Alanine
-Creatine
-Nitric Oxide

Just curious if some of these are redundant or if they could potentially turn out to be a potent combination of supplement.

Creatine is a staple, but doesn't necessarily need to be taken PWO, just 3-5g a day. Same with BA, take 3.2 grams daily - any time. NO will increase your pump..

[cobb87]

Thanks for the replies guys.
Looking for pump; but mostly endurance and energy throughout workout, to not get fatigued and be able to workout harder longer. Essentially don't want to overload on caffeine/stimulants.

[kissdadookie]

Thanks for the replies guys.
Looking for pump; but mostly endurance and energy throughout workout, to not get fatigued and be able to workout harder longer. Essentially don't want to overload on caffeine/stimulants.

Carbs, protein/aminos, stimulants. You welcome.

[Squatticus]

Thanks for the replies guys.
Looking for pump; but mostly endurance and energy throughout workout, to not get fatigued and be able to workout harder longer. Essentially don't want to overload on caffeine/stimulants.

IMO if you have to ask a question like this you're better off taking a "pre-made" preworkout. look into Twinlab MVP or Axis Labs rain maker

[TrainerTone]

Honestly I'd just take a stim free preworkout if you want to avoid stimulants

Some of my favorites are
iForce Hemavo
PES High Volume
Controlled Labs White Pipes

[Big.Jazayrli]

You could eliminate the need for a stack of separate products by using ErgoBlast and taking advantage of the B1G1 50% off sale

[IlliniTrack800m]

6-8g of citrulline malate will contribute to pumps and added endurance.

think about adding 1-2g of ALCAR if you want some focus benefits

[cobb87]

Thanks for your help everyone.

[mtpaquette]

Creatine doesn't need to be taken pre. Especially once saturation is met. Just take it whenever most days of the week to maintain saturation.


BA is better taken with food then pre. It offers no acute affects.


Not sure what you meant by NO? Nitrates? Citrulline? Etc. etc.?


Take a caffeine tab for energy if you need. They're cheap. As long as you get tabs (I use ProLab usually) they can be broken if you need.

[schneppy07]

I would just recommend adding in some caffeine for some extra energy.

[InItForFitness]

Honestly I'd just take a stim free preworkout if you want to avoid stimulants

Some of my favorites are
iForce Hemavo
PES High Volume
Controlled Labs White Pipes

Great list..

...but you left off Super Charge!

[cobb87]

Creatine doesn't need to be taken pre. Especially once saturation is met. Just take it whenever most days of the week to maintain saturation.


BA is better taken with food then pre. It offers no acute affects.


Not sure what you meant by NO? Nitrates? Citrulline? Etc. etc.?


Take a caffeine tab for energy if you need. They're cheap. As long as you get tabs (I use ProLab usually) they can be broken if you need.

Thanks for the info.
So I shouldn't use BA as a preworkout? What should then be taken as a pre, the caffeine tabs?
By NO I mean Nitric Oxide.

[Headway]

Thanks for the info.
So I shouldn't use BA as a preworkout? What should then be taken as a pre, the caffeine tabs?
By NO I mean Nitric Oxide.

It's not that BA SHOULDN'T, it's that it doesn't NEED to be.

I would look into something like Alpha GPC, Cit Mal. You also don't just take "Nitric Oxide". You use ingredients to increase your NO levels.

What's the issue with purchasing a pre-made pre-workout? Something like Hemavo2 max + caffeine, or pre-kaged?

[cobb87]

It's not that BA SHOULDN'T, it's that it doesn't NEED to be.

I would look into something like Alpha GPC, Cit Mal. You also don't just take "Nitric Oxide". You use ingredients to increase your NO levels.

What's the issue with purchasing a pre-made pre-workout? Something like Hemavo2 max + caffeine, or pre-kaged?

I'm looking into Pure Encapsulations' Nitric Oxide Support; I'm going off Michael Matthew's 'Bigger Leaner Stronger' program, and he mentions to take a NO supplement if your Pre doesn't have it.
I prefer to take supplements in their most natural form rather than synthetics or combined with others. But it looks like I might just have to settle for a 'premixed' supplement.

[Headway]

I'm looking into Pure Encapsulations' Nitric Oxide Support; I'm going off Michael Matthew's 'Bigger Leaner Stronger' program, and he mentions to take a NO supplement if your Pre doesn't have it.
I prefer to take supplements in their most natural form rather than synthetics or combined with others. But it looks like I might just have to settle for a 'premixed' supplement.

Am I missing something or what makes you think the way the ingredients are derived are different between a bulk powders versus pre-created?

The one you're looking at looks fine ingredient wise, citrulline underdosed IMO

[cobb87]

Am I missing something or what makes you think the way the ingredients are derived are different between a bulk powders versus pre-created?

The one you're looking at looks fine ingredient wise, citrulline underdosed IMO

It's not that I think they are derived differently; I just prefer to use manufacturers who I know use organic all natural variations of the supplements. Whereas I don't necessarily know where other more popular brands get their supplements from. Personal preference I guess.

How much should I be looking at for citrulline? My post-workout protein has the amino acids (as well as L-Arginine)

[mtpaquette]

It's not that I think they are derived differently; I just prefer to use manufacturers who I know use organic all natural variations of the supplements. Whereas I don't necessarily know where other more popular brands get their supplements from. Personal preference I guess.

How much should I be looking at for citrulline? My post-workout protein has the amino acids (as well as L-Arginine)

And how do you know they're "all natural"? All you can do is take that companies word for it.

2-4g of Citrulline or 6-8g of Citrulline malate.

Don't worry about arginine as it has no bioavailability when it comes to synthesizing NO. Citrulline and nitrates are where you want to be for NO.