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    Banned Supplements for Air Force

    Here is a list of Banned Supplements for the Air Force. I have no idea about the other forces but this list is for Air Force. Just wanting to let all my fellow members know.

    androstanediol
    androstanedione
    androstenediol
    androstenedione
    bolasterone
    calusterone
    1-dihydrotestosterone
    furazabol
    13b-ethyl-17a-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one
    4-hydroxytestosterone
    4-hydroxy-19-nortestosterone
    mestanolone
    17a-methyl-3b,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,17bdihydroxyandrost-4-ene
    methyldienolone
    methyltrienolone
    17a-methyl-1-dihydrotestosterone
    norandrostenediol
    norandrostenedione
    norbolethone
    norclostebol
    normethandrolone
    stenbolone
    tetrahydrogestrinone
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    Thanks for posting this, I've been trying to find this list online for a bit to make sure I'm in the clear.
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    Very good post... something to write down for future references. I leave for Air force basic in September

    Thanks.

    BTW- - I know they do random testing for illegal drugs, when do they test for supplements such as the ones listed above?
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    Would you happen to know offhand if any common supplements have any of those in them?

    I use Purple Wraath, White Flood, Green Mag...I doubt they contain anything on that list, but just wondering. From what I've heard mostly anything but steroids is ok.

    EDIT:: To ndiguy, AF drug testing isn't exactly random. By "random" it's more like "if we have any hint you might test positive for something we will randomly test you." That applies more to illegal drugs than workout supps though.
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    Originally Posted by Wild_Weasel View Post
    Would you happen to know offhand if any common supplements have any of those in them?

    I use Purple Wraath, White Flood, Green Mag...I doubt they contain anything on that list, but just wondering. From what I've heard mostly anything but steroids is ok.

    EDIT:: To ndiguy, AF drug testing isn't exactly random. By "random" it's more like "if we have any hint you might test positive for something we will randomly test you." That applies more to illegal drugs than workout supps though.
    lol most of those are steroidal compounds

    Green Mag, White Flood, and Purple Wraath are NOTHING like them
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    Originally Posted by Wild_Weasel View Post
    Would you happen to know offhand if any common supplements have any of those in them?

    I use Purple Wraath, White Flood, Green Mag...I doubt they contain anything on that list, but just wondering. From what I've heard mostly anything but steroids is ok.

    EDIT:: To ndiguy, AF drug testing isn't exactly random. By "random" it's more like "if we have any hint you might test positive for something we will randomly test you." That applies more to illegal drugs than workout supps though.
    Those are all steroids, you aren't going to find them in any of those supplements.


    Also, they aren't going to test you for steroids unless they directly suspect you of using them. Don't sweat it.
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    Originally Posted by Grant D View Post
    Those are all steroids, you aren't going to find them in any of those supplements.


    Also, they aren't going to test you for steroids unless they directly suspect you of using them. Don't sweat it.
    Just want to be sure.
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    This is a great post. I have been looking for this also. There has to be a bigger list though. I know there is a list with like 111 ingredients on it, but I have no clue how to find it. Does anybody else know how to find it?
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    Originally Posted by cedevils View Post
    This is a great post. I have been looking for this also. There has to be a bigger list though. I know there is a list with like 111 ingredients on it, but I have no clue how to find it. Does anybody else know how to find it?
    does cell-tech have any of these ingredients in it?








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    Originally Posted by kobrien21 View Post
    does cell-tech have any of these ingredients in it?








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    Did anyone ever find the full list of banned supplements? I'd be interested to know what it says too.
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    for anyone who knows there compounds... cause i dont does 3 ad,bold, or 11 oxo fall under that
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    Is 6-bromo androstanedione the same thing as androstandedione or is it something completely different?
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    I have been looking at this stuff for a long time. Like all of you, there is stuff out there i would love to take but don't want to lose my career over it. I came across another website that list a bunch of different compounds. check out the link below and it might help some of you out. To my understanding, the only way it is considered a banned supplement is if the compound match exactly. Reason I say this is because there are a lot of clones out there that look the same but are slightly different. EX. halodrol-50 and h-drol. Hope this helps some of you.



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    Originally Posted by tylerb456 View Post
    Here is a list of Banned Supplements for the Air Force. I have no idea about the other forces but this list is for Air Force. Just wanting to let all my fellow members know.

    androstanediol
    androstanedione
    androstenediol
    androstenedione
    bolasterone
    calusterone
    1-dihydrotestosterone
    furazabol
    13b-ethyl-17a-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one
    4-hydroxytestosterone
    4-hydroxy-19-nortestosterone
    mestanolone
    17a-methyl-3b,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,17bdihydroxyandrost-4-ene
    methyldienolone
    methyltrienolone
    17a-methyl-1-dihydrotestosterone
    norandrostenediol
    norandrostenedione
    norbolethone
    norclostebol
    normethandrolone
    stenbolone
    tetrahydrogestrinone

    According to the Sheppard AFB page, these are the ones that are banned. However, they are just ingredients, so any supplement that contains them is illegal. Im talking with the Area Defense Counsel, Military Justice, Health and Wellness Center, and the Drug Reduction Program to try and get the list to make sure none has been added, or taken off (according to people I work with, the list is constantly changing).

    When they pop you for a random Urine Analysis they only check for drugs like pot, coke, ecstasy, and all of those other narcotics that fall into the category.
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    Originally Posted by Hughes0718 View Post
    According to the Sheppard AFB page, these are the ones that are banned. However, they are just ingredients, so any supplement that contains them is illegal. Im talking with the Area Defense Counsel, Military Justice, Health and Wellness Center, and the Drug Reduction Program to try and get the list to make sure none has been added, or taken off (according to people I work with, the list is constantly changing).

    When they pop you for a random Urine Analysis they only check for drugs like pot, coke, ecstasy, and all of those other narcotics that fall into the category.
    A friend of mine actually ended up getting the entire list directly from the urine analysis lab on base, if that helps you out any. and i've looked at the list and it is about 10 times the size of the list previously posted on this forum. the ones posted on this forum are only those that are precursors to Andro (Androsteneidione). there are many more substances out there that are precursors to other synthetic and naturally occurring hormones. for example; Androstadiene-3 is the active ingredient in 1,4 AD, looks similar to others on that list but is infact a precursor to Bolderone, a steroid originally made for animals and only vets are licensed to use. if you test positive for this you will most likely be sitting in jail until they give you the boot. hope this helps someone.
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    Yes they do randomly test for it after you come back from deployments too. When I came back from Iraq I was tested for everything.
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    Originally Posted by tylerb456 View Post
    Here is a list of Banned Supplements for the Air Force. I have no idea about the other forces but this list is for Air Force. Just wanting to let all my fellow members know.

    androstanediol
    androstanedione
    androstenediol
    androstenedione
    bolasterone
    calusterone
    1-dihydrotestosterone
    furazabol
    13b-ethyl-17a-hydroxygon-4-en-3-one
    4-hydroxytestosterone
    4-hydroxy-19-nortestosterone
    mestanolone
    17a-methyl-3b,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,-17b-dihydroxy-5a-androstane
    17a-methyl-3a,17bdihydroxyandrost-4-ene
    methyldienolone
    methyltrienolone
    17a-methyl-1-dihydrotestosterone
    norandrostenediol
    norandrostenedione
    norbolethone
    norclostebol
    normethandrolone
    stenbolone
    tetrahydrogestrinone
    So most products made by LG.????
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    A50

    does a50 have any of those in there?
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    They will never test for steroids though, it costs the military way too much money. At least the Marines will never test.
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    Originally Posted by qbxfactor17 View Post
    They will never test for steroids though, it costs the military way too much money. At least the Marines will never test.
    A simple blood test will provide more than enough info.
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    [QUOTE=joshualavene;290708651]I have been looking at this stuff for a long time. Like all of you, there is stuff out there i would love to take but don't want to lose my career over it. I came across another website that list a bunch of different compounds. check out the link below and it might help some of you out. To my understanding, the only way it is considered a banned supplement is if the compound match exactly. Reason I say this is because there are a lot of clones out there that look the same but are slightly different. EX. halodrol-50 and h-drol. Hope this helps some of you.



    I agree. AFPortal should have a list that gets updated in the health and wellness section, but yet it doesn't. The safest thing you can do is bring a listing of what you want to take to your med squadron and they should be able to give you a thumbs up or down. Even better you should send them an e-mail stating questioning of wanting to take a certain supplement and wait for the reply. This way you will have physical proof that you were approved to take said item. Unfortunately you also have to look at what AFSC you hold. In mine I'm "not sapposed to take anything other than ibprofen or tylenol...if I get a cold I'm sapposed to check in with med squadron to make sure what I take does not cause any form of drowsyness. I can still take lifting supplements and most sol at gnc and here on bodybuilding.com are gtg but you have to make sure as stated above med sq clears it before you take it. For any of you who are over 30 - remember when we could even take ephederine and pound the weights for 3 hours...it's a whole new military now a days. Still love it but I miss the days of being able to take supplements responsibly and that be enough now everything is monitored to a certain extent. Hope all take this for what it is and stay safe if you have to go OCON.
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    Does anyone know what the AFI is that governs supplements?

    I am considering taking Monsterdrol... will this be Okay or not, does anyone know?

    ATM I do NOT need to take Monsterdrol or superdrol, however I have a friend who takes it, and I believe the stuff is legit - it does help with muscle gain.

    Monsterdrol is a designer steroid and I looked at its chemical composition and it does differ from whats on the list on this thread - nothng matches exactly from what I can see, but I need anohter set of eyes to look at it

    Chemical comp for m-drol is:

    2a, 17a-dimethyl-5a-androst-3-one-17b-ol
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    Originally Posted by usafAaron View Post
    does a50 have any of those in there?
    They sell this at the BX...Think about it...
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    Originally Posted by Heckler999 View Post
    They sell this at the BX...Think about it...
    .... that they sell Monsterdrol at the BX??

    Ive never seen it there.... it isnt at the BX downrange either
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    Originally Posted by spirit3530 View Post
    Yes they do randomly test for it after you come back from deployments too. When I came back from Iraq I was tested for everything.
    Good list. Avoid those and I think as long as you don't come back looking like Cedric McMillan when you left looking like Jared Leto you should be fine.

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    Originally Posted by ndiguy View Post
    Very good post... something to write down for future references. I leave for Air force basic in September

    Thanks.

    BTW- - I know they do random testing for illegal drugs, when do they test for supplements such as the ones listed above?
    They only test for the big 5. I have seen a lot of guys who are on the juice and haven't been kicked out yet. They only test you for it if you're acting like an aggressive jackass who happens to have a lot of muscle mass.
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    Here is a list that the Navy kind of put out. It hasn't actually been pushed out to everyone. I had to go ask my LPO for a copy. Also these are not banned. Actual wording is "List of supplements/identifiers to avoid". They are saying it is because people are false positive testing for methamphetamine but I think has to do with heart attacks that have been had by people taking products with DMAA in them.

    Identifiers: Methylhexaneamine, Methylhexanamine, Geranamine, Geranium Oil, Geranium Oil Extract, DMAA, Forthane, Forthan, Floradrene, 4-methyl-2-hexanamine, 4-methylhexan-2-amine.

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