How much evidence do you global warming zealots need to convince you you're wrong?

[gumbyonroids]

Some of the most recent evidence refuting the global warming lie...

http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature...ticle10866.htm

You're welcome to believe whatever you like, but please, don't try to force your religious beliefs on others and force them to conform to YOUR idea of right living.

[Cramerica]

You're welcome to believe whatever you like, but please, don't try to force your religious beliefs on others and force them to conform to YOUR idea of right living.

What does this part have to do with global warming?

[judgeposer]

Have you seen this too?

Weather Channel Founder Blasts Network; Claims It Is 'Telling Us What to Think'

[jf1]

Have you seen this too?

Weather Channel Founder Blasts Network; Claims It Is 'Telling Us What to Think'

LOL!
who could possibly argue with the founder of the weather channel?
now that he disputes global warming his learned opinion will certainly negate the consensus of the national academy of sciences (NAS)!

how many nobel prizes did the weather channel founder receive?

[Cramerica]

how many nobel prizes did the weather channel founder receive?

So winning a Nobel Prize is the be all end all of discussion?

It's doubtful he's come to this conclusion based on his own, sole personal research of the subject.

But it's Bush's fault anyways, so...

[goody1]

how many nobel prizes did the weather channel founder receive?

Funny your nobel prize winner refuses to publicly debate anyone on the subject of global warming

[AKR]

About three fiddy.

[jf1]

Funny your nobel prize winner refuses to publicly debate anyone on the subject of global warming

whats even funnier is i wasnt talking about the nobel PEACE prize winner!
i was referring to the nobel laureates on the board of the NAS!

maybe you have heard of them?
they represent the foremost minds in their applied fields of SCIENCE...

but of course their opinions wouldnt matter to you guys...you have the weather channel founder on your side!

[legacyguy]

I hope that you will one day realize that the Nobel Peace Prize and the Nobel Prize are all politically motivated. The Nobel Prize... not so much because they actually need to have some science behind it. But the agenda's are pushed these days for political and greedy reasons. Of course, they do award people who actually deserve the awards, but there credibility has been shot in the last couple decades.

[Cramerica]

Of course, they do award people who actually deserve the awards, but there credibility has been shot in the last couple decades.

Like Al Gore?

[Dan0_123]

whats even funnier is i wasnt talking about the nobel PEACE prize winner!
i was referring to the nobel laureates on the board of the NAS!

maybe you have heard of them?
they represent the foremost minds in their applied fields of SCIENCE...

but of course their opinions wouldnt matter to you guys...you have the weather channel founder on your side!

You put to much faith in these people. Jon Nash one a noble prize and was a messed up schizophrenic delusional guy who thought he was a spy and talked to people who weren't really there....

[legacyguy]

Like Al Gore?

Al Gore is all politics and about pushing the carbon credit crap through fear mongering of global warming. So... he certainly takes the cake with blowing the Nobel Prize's credibility much more out of the water.

[AKR]

You put to much faith in these people. Jon Nash one a noble prize and was a messed up schizophrenic delusional guy who thought he was a spy and talked to people who weren't really there....

Who just happened to be a brilliant mathematician. But of course, that's not important.

[ElderJefferson]

Global warming is not a myth. It's the "whys" and "hows" that people differ about.

From what I've read, it's caused by a natural cycle more than anything else.

[Cramerica]

Global warming is not a myth. It's the "whys" and "hows" that people differ about.

From what I've read, it's caused by a natural cycle more than anything else.

I've seen parts of his speech online.

That's really what he's eluding to. He fears there has already been too much infiltration and corruption in the analysis and simply suggests a 'creative' lawsuit be considered.

[kelo80]

Yup global warming is happening for sure, thats why weve had our coldest winter in the last ten years this year, give me a break.

[Cramerica]

Not sure if anyone's seen this, but Australia's scientists just said they need to cut down their vehicular use nation-wide by 80%.

Can you imagine that 8 out of 10 times you want to drive your car, you have to find an alternative?

They also said that flying in a jet should now become a 'once in a lifetime' experience.

[AKR]

Yup global warming is happening for sure, thats why weve had our coldest winter in the last ten years this year, give me a break.

Oh, well, there you go.

[grapemaster]

I agree with poster above, I think the warming of the planet is overly demonized... but, we are still polluting our drinking water, soil, killing the natural habitat, etc... you can't refute that, could care less about the temperature or a new coast line...that is going to happen anyway, plate tectonics are not going to stop, volcanos are not going to stop, etc etc... but lets stop messing with it anyway.

[Atlas Shrugged]

[jf1]

You put to much faith in these people. Jon Nash one a noble prize and was a messed up schizophrenic delusional guy who thought he was a spy and talked to people who weren't really there....

so all the esteemed members of the NAS, all the nobel prize winners, ie the most gifted scientific minds on the planet, should not be taken seriously?

whom do you suggest we put our faith in regarding matters of science then?
the bush administration? talk radio? conservative 'think tanks'?

[jf1]

Not sure if anyone's seen this, but Australia's scientists just said they need to cut down their vehicular use nation-wide by 80%.

Can you imagine that 8 out of 10 times you want to drive your car, you have to find an alternative?

They also said that flying in a jet should now become a 'once in a lifetime' experience.

the fact that 'scientists' dare to make demands that we change our lifestyle is a sure sign that global warming does not exist! right?
what could be more preposterous?!

yes, sarcasm!
but, yes, that seems to be part of 'cramerican' logic...

[JamesGatz83]

You put to much faith in these people. Jon Nash one a noble prize and was a messed up schizophrenic delusional guy who thought he was a spy and talked to people who weren't really there....

Essentially, you saw A Beautiful Mind and now feel you're qualified to make broad statements about Nobel Prize recipients. Terrific.

I do think that global warming has been grossly exaggerated, though. Is it a concern? Absolutely. Is it a sure sign of an impending apocalypse? I don't think so.

[riptor]

Yet another global cooling article. Basically the article states that since this was a cold winter (actually some parts of the world had an unusually warm winter) then that proves GW isn't happening. What we still find is that there is a general warming trend overall. What is truly odd is that people who will accept this article will ignore the decades of warming but claim one winter disproves the whole notion.

I clicked on the link referring to their past article on global cooling. And not surprisingly, it is just a rehash of the same old stuff. They claim that the Canadian Kenneth Tapping is skeptical of GW. He isn't. Tapping was quoted out of context and it is being spread around the Internet like wildfire.

"Thanks for the message. The stuff on the web came from a casual chat with someone who managed to misunderstand what I said and then put the result on the web, which is probably a big caution for me regarding the future.

It is true that the beginning of the next solar cycle is late, but not so late that we are getting worried, merely curious.

It is the opinion of scientists, including me, that global warming is a major issue, and that it might be too late to do anything about it already. If there is a cooling due to the solar activity cycle laying off for a bit, then the a period of solar cooling could be a much-needed respite giving us more time to attack the problem of greenhouse gases, with the caveat that if we do not, things will be far worse when things turn on again after a few decades. However, once again it is early days and we cannot at the moment conclude there is another minimum started."

http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008...you_read_i.php

Though I shouldn't be too hard on the people who write these global cooling articles, since it took me almost three minutes to uncover this information.

The Russian scientist mentioned does say that global cooling will occur, but not for another 100,000 years.

http://globalwarmingtrends.blogspot....e-chiling.html

[gumbyonroids]

Yet another global cooling article.

Thats fine. You can go ahead and believe whatever you like. Just don't join with the asses trying to force lifestyle changes and beliefs on others. There's nothing like the destructive power of a religious zealot.

[Lloyd Braun]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPCC_Fo...essment_Report

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Denying what the overwhelming majority of prominent global climatologists and weather-related scientists have already reiterated dozens of times already, that climate change is occurring and it is (at least partly) caused by anthropormorphic greenhouse gases is nothing more than a knee-jerk emotional reaction in order to justify one's own wasteful consumption-driven lifestyle.

It's akin to some three-hundred pound goliath cramming snickers bars constantly down his mouth while simultaneously disbelieving what everybody else is telling him, that snickers are bad for you, except that guy shoving chocolate down his throat just doesn't want to give up the damn candybars...

[1veedo]

I like how global warming deniers always discuss politics and not science. If you want to disagree with politicians that's perfectly alright but the science on this issue is very clear. If you want to prove to me global warming isn't real I'd like to hear it from a credible scientific organisation. Thing is every major scientific organisation on the planet agrees that global warming is primarily caused by humans.

[gumbyonroids]

I like how global warming deniers always discuss politics and not science. If you want to disagree with politicians that's perfectly alright but the science on this issue is very clear. If you want to prove to me global warming isn't real I'd like to hear it from a credible scientific organisation. Thing is every major scientific organisation on the planet agrees that global warming is primarily caused by humans.

A million scientists could agree and it wouldnt matter. Real science is not decided by consensus, but by fact(s). If the majority of scientists said it was ok to rape little children, would you go along with it?

Like I said, go with the crowd if you like, just don't try to force your beliefs or what you think should be done on others.

[Atlas Shrugged]

The fact that the global climate is changing is not being debated by anyone as far as I know. The argument stems from the ridiculous notion that man is responsible for the warming trends associated with the past decade as opposed to naturally occurring cycles that existed long before mankind even thought about these things. We're also tired of hearing idiots that use erroneous examples to demonstrate global warming, like hurricanes, iceberg separation and dead polar bears.

The polar ice caps on Mars are melting, mankind held accountable.
Some polar bears are increasing in number. Newsflash: The media distorts the truth?
Top Berg Researcher rejects global warming as cause for largest iceberg in recorded history.

[Cramerica]

the fact that 'scientists' dare to make demands that we change our lifestyle is a sure sign that global warming does not exist! right?
what could be more preposterous?!

yes, sarcasm!
but, yes, that seems to be part of 'cramerican' logic...

Sorry my logic is based upon citing news from Australia.

But I would expect nothing less of you.

Your pure hatred for me overrides any ability you have to process posts.