Is "sucking in" acceptable, or is it cheating? On men, where should the waist be measured, at pants level, or around the belly button?
thx,
Dan
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01-08-2007, 08:15 AM #1
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01-09-2007, 03:59 PM #4
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01-10-2007, 09:17 AM #5
Hey fellas... The waist is not around the belly buttom... That is the ab measurement... Waist is the narrowest part between the belly buttom and the sternum.... A good gauge is to measure both ways.... Relaxed and sucking in... If relaxed measurement increases, so will vacuum measurement... The increase in relaxed pose is from body fat accumulation... The increase in vacuum pose is from body fat accumulation AND deconditioning of the transversis abdominis.... This is why I constantly track my waist while training for size... It will increase a little, but it should not blow up... Plus I continually train my abs off-season to maintain function and form...
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01-10-2007, 04:05 PM #6
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01-11-2007, 02:43 PM #9
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01-13-2007, 12:30 PM #10
Sure it is... First of all, you all need to argue with the surmountable stack of research and literature supporting the "Waist" measurement... Secondly, You could measure different segments of waist, just so long as you standardize the site and keep it same everytime.. Nuff said little kids...
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01-25-2009, 02:24 AM #11
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hi
I always measured myself around the waist at the smallest part under my rib cage - where it goes in the most. But the guy I was training with was being really horrible to me and saying 'NO!' that's not the waist - the waist is where the belly button is. Well I think for men that might be the case - but for women the belly button sits a lot lower from the smallest part of the waist... perhaps a couple of inches down.
After that he said my waist increased by a cm. I think he's wrong. Do you?
Anyway my question: where do you measure a man's waist and where to you measure a woman's waist?
(my answer: a man is measured at the belly button point, a woman is measured at the smallest point under the rib cage.)
Let me know your thoughts thanks
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01-25-2009, 03:40 AM #12Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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01-25-2009, 09:46 AM #13
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Nahh, I wear a 32 in pants during offseason, but my waist got up to 34, and I was still wearing the same pant size. You are suppose to measure about 1 inch above the belly button to get an appropriate measurement. This goes along with people who have measured my waist for a tuxedo in the past, and last year the lady asked how big my waist was, and I told her 30 inch ATM and she said did Im easure 1 inch above belly button, for accuracy.
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01-25-2009, 12:03 PM #14
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Pants sizes are much smaller than the Inch counterpart. People that think they have a 34 or 36 inch waist because they wear the respective pant size are in for a rude awakening. Usually you will fit into pants that are 3-4 size smaller than your actual waist measurement. My 34's are falling off and I am fitting into 32's fine with a 35.7" waist right now. When I had a 48" waist I wore a size 42.
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01-25-2009, 12:12 PM #15Food quality does not change the laws of thermodynamics. Provided you consume adequate protein, EFAs, fiber, and vitamins and minerals you can eat whatever you want.
The only difference between a 'clean' and a 'dirty' food is how much of it you eat.
The Glycemic Index is meaningless unless you eat carbs alone in a fasted state. As soon as you add fat, protein, or fiber to a meal or have eaten in the previous 4-6 hours the GI is irrelevant.
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01-25-2009, 01:50 PM #16
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I don't know how that's possible lol. I have found pants sizes, at least in the US to be marked as much smaller than the actual circumference of the waist. Maybe you live overseas? I just measured 8 pairs of pants and all of them were 2-4" larger than the size (^_^)
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That makes even LESS sense bro. I have 39 Inch hips and wear 32/34. I am pretty sure if you look at someone rocking size 38 jeans that are actually fitting them they will have A) a waist larger than 38" B) Hips even larger than their waist. No man wearing size 34 jeans has 34" hips lol.
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I don't think the label reads hip or waist. Just a size, and most people assume that is their waist size. Maybe if our pants were sized by actual " then people would realize how ridiculously obese they have become.
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I always measured myself around the waist at the smallest part under my rib cage - where it goes in the most. But the guy I was training with was being really horrible to me and saying 'NO!' that's not the waist - the waist is where the belly button is. Well I think for men that might be the case - but for women the belly button sits a lot lower from the smallest part of the waist... perhaps a couple of inches down.
After that he said my waist increased by a cm. I think he's wrong. Do you?
Anyway my question: where do you measure a man's waist and where to you measure a woman's waist?
(my answer: a man is measured at the belly button point, a woman is measured at the smallest point under the rib cage.)
Let me know your thoughts thanks
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01-26-2009, 07:30 AM #22
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CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY POST PLEASE
I always measured myself around the waist at the smallest part under my rib cage - where it goes in the most. But the guy I was training with was being really horrible to me and saying 'NO!' that's not the waist - the waist is where the belly button is. Well I think for men that might be the case - but for women the belly button sits a lot lower from the smallest part of the waist... perhaps a couple of inches down.
After that he said my waist increased by a cm. I think he's wrong. Do you?
Anyway my question: where do you measure a man's waist and where to you measure a woman's waist?
(my answer: a man is measured at the belly button point, a woman is measured at the smallest point under the rib cage.)
Let me know your thoughts thanks
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY POST PLEASE?
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01-27-2009, 02:15 AM #24
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Answer Meeeee Someonee
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY POST PLEASE
I always measured myself around the waist at the smallest part under my rib cage - where it goes in the most. But the guy I was training with was being really horrible to me and saying 'NO!' that's not the waist - the waist is where the belly button is. Well I think for men that might be the case - but for women the belly button sits a lot lower from the smallest part of the waist... perhaps a couple of inches down.
After that he said my waist increased by a cm. I think he's wrong. Do you?
Anyway my question: where do you measure a man's waist and where to you measure a woman's waist?
(my answer: a man is measured at the belly button point, a woman is measured at the smallest point under the rib cage.)
Let me know your thoughts thanks
CAN SOMEONE ANSWER MY POST PLEASE?
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01-29-2009, 04:49 AM #25
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04-17-2010, 01:02 AM #26
womens waist size
hi jen, im not sure why no one replied to ur post for over a year. and i figure ul never see ths cuz u gave up trying to get a reply and found out somewhere else. but if u do see this, id like to confirm that ur waist size is measured at the naturally narrowest section of ur torso. don't worry about what anyone else says.
josh
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08-11-2010, 03:23 PM #27
I think there's a difference between pants size and waist size (measured on the belly button level). At that level, my waist measures 37 inches, but I wear 34 inch pants with the belt at max notches and they're loose. Heck, if I don't have a belt, I can put them on and take them off when they're buttoned.
I still don't have what it takes. I must train harder.
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08-11-2010, 05:34 PM #28
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05-28-2011, 04:34 PM #29
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05-28-2011, 05:53 PM #30
I've always thought...
Men: over navel
Women: Smallest point (Usually above belly button/under ribs)
But again aslong as u keep measuring it the same way as before, thats wat matters when keeping track of progress.
ALSO, I wear size 30" pants and my waist is 30" over navel.
But I find it common to have my pants tight on my thighs and lose around the waist
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