I have been bulking now for 3 months and have put on 20#. I am looking to start my cutting cycle to kick off the New Year. I will be looking to maintain my strength at a minimum and addition of mass will be appreciated. I have been researching many stacks for a couple of weeks now and I’m stuck on my decision of which one to use. I’m certain they are all creditable, but I’d like to use the one with the most proven and consistent results.
I’d like to get advice from Users of the stacks I have listed below. The perfect advice would some from Users who have used at least 2 of the stack as to have a comparison. I welcome all advice nevertheless.
Stack 1 (Designer Supplements)
ActivaTe
Rebound Reloaded
Lean Extreme
Stack 2 (Anabolic Extreme)
Hyperdrol
Mass fx
Retain
Stack 3
Halo Gels (Gaspari Nutrition)
Ebol (ThermoLife)
Stack 4 (ALR Industries)
Jungle Warfare
BAM
Restore
They all seem like solid stacks. It may just come down to what's worth the price. Man....decisions, decisions....
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12-29-2006, 07:55 PM #1
Non-Hormonal Stack: Which One do I use?
Currently:
5'-11"
187#
I'm a DC'er and a Culker.
"Just trying to look good naked."
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12-29-2006, 07:59 PM #2
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12-29-2006, 08:50 PM #3
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12-29-2006, 10:52 PM #4
Not sure if you have searched through NHA feedback, but I'll post the logs just in case you have not.
NHA Stack
Bernie’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=861375
NC2315’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=641689
N2315’s w/ Sesaglow
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=869526
spaceclowns’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=701915
peepingyoda’s
http://http://www.forum.bodybuilding...d.php?t=710168
Madevilz’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=653643
Aeternitatis’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=636790
Freakfactor’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=667148
xxghostxx’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=627228
TheUnlikelyToad’s (1st Log)
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=567313
TheUnlikelyToad’s (Remixed Log)
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=630967
TheUnlikelyToad’s (Dicana + NHA)
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=850351
rush_n’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=668011
thanatopsis’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=583750
Chevyguy358’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=862464
RageSoCal’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=562786
rusty319’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=516373
dungeon1’s
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=542259
ElMariachi’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=834745
Rotlex’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=865668
jimmari’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...ad.php?t=86055
cdem’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=899522
demonseed’s
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/sh...d.php?t=902462
NHA Stack Write-Up
http://www.designersupps.com/product.../NHA_Stack.pdf
FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...t=Activate+FAQ
Purchase Stack in BB.com Store
Activate-http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/act.html
Rebound Reloaded- http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/reload.html
Lean Extreme-http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/lean.html
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12-30-2006, 12:06 AM #5
you have some good stack choices, I like #1 and 3. Here are some HLG logs in case you havent followed:
The complete stack; Halodrol Liquigels, SP250, SizeOn and Novedex XT
Sobelik: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=946375
MR ARIES HaloLiqui/Size-ON/SP250 Gaspari EVERYTHING stack
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=952014
Brownbomber1 : http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=920264
Bosnia bulk: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=942570
Itrik (41 years old): http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...7#post12538157
We got more but they arent done yet"I'm special, you're special. We are all just a bunch of special fcukers!" - Stifler
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12-30-2006, 12:11 AM #6
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12-30-2006, 01:52 AM #7
As 40 yard noted, the X-factor/ActivaTe stack is amazing. Adding Rebound Reloaded is an option for those 21 yo+
My place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
I'm not a "rep," and most "reps":
1) are no more credentialed than you. 2) have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
http://www.drivensports.co.uk/
http://www.getds.com/
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12-30-2006, 10:30 AM #8
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12-30-2006, 10:44 AM #9My place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
I'm not a "rep," and most "reps":
1) are no more credentialed than you. 2) have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
http://www.drivensports.co.uk/
http://www.getds.com/
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12-30-2006, 10:47 AM #10
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12-30-2006, 01:16 PM #14
You could but it would probably be over kill on the 3,4 DVTH. Although the 25R-diol in Mass FX is the main ingredient that gives noticeable results by day 3 it also contains 1 gram of 3,4 DVTH. I am unsure what stacking Activate with Mass FX would do. You can always drop into our "ask Dr.D" forum and talk to the creator of both products (Mass FX and Activate ). He would probably give you a solid answer about stacking them.
SmashBrand Marketing & Design
www.SmashBrand.com
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12-30-2006, 01:23 PM #15
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12-31-2006, 08:12 AM #25My place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
I'm not a "rep," and most "reps":
1) are no more credentialed than you. 2) have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
http://www.drivensports.co.uk/
http://www.getds.com/
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12-31-2006, 03:03 PM #26
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01-01-2007, 02:33 AM #27
If I did not love DS, I wouldn't work here, so some bias is inevitable. Unlike other "reps," I have say in our product forumlations, writeups, and usage information.
IMO, using ActivaTe in conjunction with Xfactor is the best NHA stack out there with regard to minimizing sides and maximizing gains. Adding Rebound Reloaded to that stack is simply another bump in potency through targeting another pathway. LX is good for those who display a great deal of carb sensitivity or disproportionate adiposity.
I've no doubt that HLGs are effective, but I do wonder whether the dosage of each ingredient is sufficient. I'd like to try the product, but price restricts me.
Ebol also interests the hell out of me, and considering the success I had with high dosed ECDYsten I definitely look forward to using the bottle I have AS SOON AS I can commit a month of flawless diet/workout/sleep. I don't do things half assed, so if I can't lock everything in, it's useless to me to use a stack.
IMO, I like products with less "tricky" labels. Makes it easier to know what I'm taking and what I'm not, what's doing the job and what isn't.My place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
I'm not a "rep," and most "reps":
1) are no more credentialed than you. 2) have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
http://www.drivensports.co.uk/
http://www.getds.com/
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01-01-2007, 10:24 AM #28
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01-01-2007, 11:21 AM #29My place in here at bb.com is as a fitness enthusiast and recommendations do not represent medical advice. Please consult your examining physician for all medical concerns.
I'm not a "rep," and most "reps":
1) are no more credentialed than you. 2) have no input and no understanding of their product formulations. 3) are merely paid in free product from the company they represent.
http://www.drivensports.co.uk/
http://www.getds.com/
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01-01-2007, 12:21 PM #30
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