I feel like I need more reps on chest

[N0equal]

Im mass building right now, I was doing a 2-8 rep range heavy weights to failure for 4 weeks and just switched it up to a 10x10 german volume training for 4 weeks

my concerns is with the chest/back day:

incline dumbell press- 10x10
barbell rows (reverse grips)- 10x10
pull-overs- 3x15
lat-pulldowns- 3x15


it just seems like Im not doing enough for chest seeing as how I workout 3x a week and this is the only time I do chest and its just incline dumbell press.

thoughts, comments, suggestions?

[BenW22]

10x10...holy crap. I assume you're doing less weight at 10x10 than the 2-8 rep range sets...so I'm not sure how you're going to gain a lot of mass.

[WarwickBass1st]

Im mass building right now, I was doing a 2-8 rep range heavy weights to failure for 4 weeks and just switched it up to a 10x10 german volume training for 4 weeks

my concerns is with the chest/back day:

incline dumbell press- 10x10
barbell rows (reverse grips)- 10x10
pull-overs- 3x15
lat-pulldowns- 3x15


it just seems like Im not doing enough for chest seeing as how I workout 3x a week and this is the only time I do chest and its just incline dumbell press.

thoughts, comments, suggestions?

I would definately add an exercise there if your goal is mass. Personally I would feel the need to add blood flow to the chest so flies/cables or decline db could definately help. Depends on your energy level after the set of 10 I guess but give it a try

[WarwickBass1st]

10x10...holy crap. I assume you're doing less weight at 10x10 than the 2-8 rep range sets...so I'm not sure how you're going to gain a lot of mass.

I think its something like 60% of your max and 60 min rest in between each set?

[chazzy1864]

If you are doing GVT, I think that should be enough for your chest. The only reason you mgiht not see as noticeable of results is you are doing incline over flat, so the results won't be as pronounced, per se.

[N0equal]

Yeah I do about 60% of my max and rest 90 seconds between sets, with a 3/0/1 tempo per rep

I like the workout I've done it in the past and it does improve strength alot, and mass. My concern is I just feel like my chest isnt getting enough attention, I was thought someone familiar with a german volume training routine could recomend something in this rep/set range or perhaps advise me to keep it the way it is and why I should.

The one thing I have noticed from this type of workout is I seem to come out of these 4 weeks with vastly improved strength. My size is there too but not as much so as strength, its a really good type of workout to blast through a plateau.

[brudman]

If you are doing GVT, I think that should be enough for your chest. The only reason you mgiht not see as noticeable of results is you are doing incline over flat, so the results won't be as pronounced, per se.

Why do you say this Chaz?

[chazzy1864]

Why do you say this Chaz?

I'm not saying it won't have a noticeable effect, but generally lower chest is what stands out most on people.

So if he is only doing upper chest on GVT, it will probably give him a well shaped chest, just won't get as "big" as if he did GVT for flat bench. Just speculation on my part, but what I'd guess.

[N0equal]

I'm not saying it won't have a noticeable effect, but generally lower chest is what stands out most on people.

So if he is only doing upper chest on GVT, it will probably give him a well shaped chest, just won't get as "big" as if he did GVT for flat bench. Just speculation on my part, but what I'd guess.

^ This does make sense,
and its not that I dont "see" the difference it just seems like there should be more reps involving chest, perhaps another exercise seeing as how there are 3 different exercises for back on chest/back day. But maybe Im wrong thats why I was asking

[brudman]

I'm not saying it won't have a noticeable effect, but generally lower chest is what stands out most on people.

So if he is only doing upper chest on GVT, it will probably give him a well shaped chest, just won't get as "big" as if he did GVT for flat bench. Just speculation on my part, but what I'd guess.

I see what you are saying. Essentially the lower head is larger than upper head so an excercise that emphasizes the larger head would be more beneficial for overall mass.